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Shrimping Margaritas And Other Bad Ideas
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You can tell a lot about people by what they laugh at and what they can’t handle, and we put that to the test with margaritas in hand and a topic Brittany dared us to touch: feet. We get into foot fetishes without pretending everyone should be into them, unpack what “shrimping” means, and argue our way through toe rings, from trashy vs tasteful to the cultural and spiritual meanings people attach to different toes. If you’ve ever wondered why something as simple as a toe ring can read as flirty, beachy, or downright filthy, you’re in the right place.
Then we go full internet: selling feet pics in Australia, what beginners realistically make, why custom requests pay more, and why “easy money” still comes with effort, privacy risks, and a weirdly specific algorithm hangover. We even detour into the worn socks market, because of course we do, and we talk through the practical side people skip like hygiene, boundaries, and not doing anything you’ll regret once it’s online.
Just when you think it’s all chaos, Miami brings the sticky questions people ask about us all the time: are we together, are we committed, and why does our friendship look like a relationship? We explain what friends with benefits actually means for us, how we set rules so no one gets hurt, and why staying single can be a powerful choice after toxic relationships, cheating, and broken trust.
If you like honest LGBTQ+ conversations, gay relationship dynamics, and a podcast that can swing from filthy to heartfelt in seconds, hit subscribe, share it with a curious mate, and leave a review. What’s your take: toe rings, toe sucking, or toes nowhere near your mouth?
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Intro And Margaritas
SPEAKER_02Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our adventures as fully grown homos navigating today's world full of inquisitive friends' questions about gay life and the unexplored activities of a life lived as fully grown homos.
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SPEAKER_01Hey Matt. Guess what? What? Hang on, one second, listen to this.
SPEAKER_00I don't give a fuck because I'm in Miami. Yeah, I'm in Miami. Bitch. Because I'm in Miami. Bitch. Oh honey, I'm in Miami.
SPEAKER_08Bitch.
SPEAKER_02Well, to be clear, I'm not in Miami. Miami's in the house. Hi guys. Welcome back again. Welcome back. Welcome back to this. I know.
SPEAKER_09Tell me about it.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna have to start. You'll be moving in with us. Just start charging. Well, when we start making money, you can start charging us, alright? With me, it's a little bit more. Where are we? What it's a Saturday night. It is. It's officially a Saturday night now, not an afternoon. We're sitting here making Miami's margaritas. No, drinking Margaret.
SPEAKER_07Drinking Miami's margaritas. Miami made for us.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. What are your special ingredients?
SPEAKER_07Matt, you hate margaritas. How's it?
SPEAKER_02I'm not a fan of tequila. It's fucking delicious. Gotta lie. Not gonna lie. Not gonna lie. You converted him. I've had half a fucking margarita and I'm smashed already.
SPEAKER_05It's nice, it's very nice. Who's gonna control the buttons now? Ooh! And we're drinking them out of these massive grabby bowls. Yeah. That yeah, Matt purchased from Aldi. Yeah. And they're pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02Sounds like we're sponsored by so many people because we mentioned so many things. Um we are open for sponsorships. Um just putting it out there if anyone wants to sponsor us. But yeah, what's in them?
SPEAKER_07There is tequila.
SPEAKER_02You have a gold tequila, you said.
SPEAKER_07What's the difference? Well, in a cocktail, you're meant to use a silver tequila, which is the clear one. It's a little bit smoother to drink less like bitterness. Gold is meant to be like shoddered or drank straight.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07But I love that bitter, strong flavour, so I always use gold.
SPEAKER_02What else is in there? Because you made a skinny.
SPEAKER_07I made a skinny margarita. So we've got some soda water, quite a bit of soda water. Uh we have some lime, we have some margarita mix.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, margarita mix cool, because I've got bananas earlier. Jose Cavera.
SPEAKER_07Someone knows.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Anyway, and then we have so instead of salt around the room, which I would have loved because I love that bitter taste. I know Matt is not a man. I like the salty but straight from the sauce. Exactly.
SPEAKER_05He likes his sweet stuff.
SPEAKER_07He gets enough salt. Yeah. Um I have done a pink sugar. It's nice. I like it. And the pink sugar really just sweetens it up and makes it not as dribe your glass as well, because you've got a different glass.
SPEAKER_02Before we do that, let me just let the listeners um taste it, right? That's what he's normally like in the glory hole. It's it is delicious. Um and that sugar around the outside makes it taste even better. Better, huh? Yeah, that was a bit of ASM. It looks pretty. It does, it looks pretty as hell. I'll put the photos up um in the in the title thing, definitely. Definitely. Um Yeah, and Miami's got her own pink glass.
SPEAKER_05So we we're not we're not gonna sort of um not gonna do a weekly rap because we don't need to.
SPEAKER_02We've been here. We just did that in the previous episode.
SPEAKER_05So we did um this is back to back episodes for us today.
SPEAKER_02Back to back, back to back to back to back. We did an hour-long one last time, so hopefully you'll get through that one and then this one, this one, we we're not gonna release them all at once either. What if we space them out to give you just time to breathe? We've got to tease them with a little bit of a time. Yes.
SPEAKER_07Tease them with a bit at a time.
SPEAKER_02But today is gonna be, hang on, let me just play this.
Feet Fetish 101
SPEAKER_08It's all about the feet.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's all about the feet.
SPEAKER_07It is, which I find because who doesn't love a foot fetish?
SPEAKER_02Ugh, foot fetishes not for me, but but a friend of ours actually, you know who you are, Brittany. Um, sh she brought this up on a group chat asking us to go into foot fetish, foot selling feet pics and all that kind of stuff, right? Which I think is gross. Um however, because and and mainly mainly because I've got a fucking ugly big toe, like my big toe. And I'd say I put a photo up, but I don't want anyone to have to suffer the bridge. I can concur with that.
SPEAKER_05That's why I've never sucked mass toes before. Well, you have to just not that one, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah. So can I just like we all know how I stand on feet?
SPEAKER_05Are you are your toes clean? Your feet clean?
SPEAKER_07Oh, nor would they've been in my sweaty slippers.
SPEAKER_05Sorry, can you just suck your toe? Live on live on air. Tell me what you think.
SPEAKER_07I've got sweaty.
SPEAKER_05I've got wipes there.
SPEAKER_07I you'll have to.
SPEAKER_02Do you want to do it? Well, if you'll do it a little bit later.
SPEAKER_07I've always said they've been in my sweaty slippers. That's right. My leopard print Barbie suit. Yeah, but you're clean anyway. Yeah, you're not.
SPEAKER_02But I do have wipes here. So all right, Matt, you've said the wipes five times.
SPEAKER_07What we'll do. Matt's like you are not sucking her toes and then sucking my people.
SPEAKER_05We'll we'll do a comparison. Matt can suck one foot and also the other. I will not be doing it.
SPEAKER_06There's no way Matt is sucking my toes. You can have your feet up. I'd love to say it. You can have a feet up.
SPEAKER_02You have got absolutely no fucking chance of that happening. If her husband was here on sucky's dick while you suck her toes, no problem. But um that ain't happening in this planet ever.
SPEAKER_07Maddie's anti-toe, anti-feet. Where do you stand, Dave? Are you like give or take?
SPEAKER_02Well, he's happy to put yours in his mouth, so we know where he stands.
SPEAKER_07I have cute feet.
SPEAKER_02I know, he's happy to put anyone's in his mouth.
SPEAKER_07Oh, well, that doesn't make me feel special. I'm suddenly feel a bit special, but he's not on that.
SPEAKER_05I like a good toe sucking section. So not me.
SPEAKER_07So tell me what a good toe sucking section. What is a good toe sucking? If I throw up, it's not because of the margarita, alright?
SPEAKER_05It's when you literally are.
SPEAKER_07I can dip my toe in the margarita first. Do it, do it, you know.
SPEAKER_05Or the tequila, it's a little bit. And then you can suck a shot of tequila off my toe. It's a sensation ball, I think. I mean, for me, having had my toe sucked made me understand the you know, the actual eroticism and the um the sensations you get is very, very erotic. It's very it's almost like having your ears licked, it's having your neck licked. It's not like that. No, it is. It isn't. It is, not for me. It's very erotic. It is.
SPEAKER_02I mean, and have you has that you've asked Aaron to suck your toes, haven't you?
SPEAKER_07Aaron refuses to suck my toes. So if there's anyone out there that's like, well, Dave's just offered Dave's just offered, alright? So yeah, Aaron's like anti-like his feet. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's it's filthy.
SPEAKER_05I wouldn't do it if their feet are fucking dirty. If people would be walking on them and they're not clean.
SPEAKER_02So a homeless person's out of the question. No.
SPEAKER_05Um, look, and obviously, I wouldn't do it if they've got a fucking skinny skinnier. Yeah, skin fetish. How do you know? You would know when your tongue goes fucking blue afterwards. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Mine are freshly pedicure. Yes, you mate, you can't you know.
SPEAKER_02I do pedicure, I love a pedicure. With that toe. But that toe is gonna remain ugly for its eternity. Why? Uh because it's always been that ugly. And they've actually chopped it all the way back and said, Oh, it will grow back properly.
SPEAKER_07Maybe you need to wear some multifungal.
SPEAKER_02I've done that. Really? As well, yeah. I painted it for like months and months and months.
SPEAKER_05Can I ask a question? Yeah. Since we're talking about feet and toes, yeah. Where is the most obscure place you put your feet or toes?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I fucked a guy with my foot. With my toe. With my toe. Yeah, really? I've stuck my toe up his ass, yeah.
SPEAKER_07I've never done that, but I've definitely liked rubbed the dick with my feet.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, I've given toe jobs, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I've put my both toe. Have you ever had anybody insert their toe into your bagina? No. No. Is that because you no? Is that because you you're worried about the pain from the nail?
SPEAKER_07No, it just hasn't come. I have had someone like that was like bent me over the bed and was like playing with me from behind, and then they put their leg up and like pinned me down, had their foot on my face. Yeah, like stood on my head and like held me down with their foot.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Okay. How did you feel about that? I liked it. Yeah, yeah, because I loved it. This is new.
SPEAKER_07Uh big fucking foot on my face. I couldn't move. I was just like, alright, I'm stuck like this.
SPEAKER_02Couldn't move, but she certainly slipped everywhere.
SPEAKER_07Um couldn't complain, they were, you know, rubbing the bits. Oh, okay. That's funny as.
SPEAKER_02Yep. But yeah, um, so like, okay, so and again, how this came about was our friend Brittany actually sort of mentioned um
Toe Rings And What They Mean
SPEAKER_02Um, I wanted a toe ring.
SPEAKER_07You did it.
SPEAKER_02And then most recently, Miami wanted a toe ring. So she put up on her Instagram story, she contacted us and said, Hey, is it okay if I put down, like, use our photo, um, like the fully grown home as photo, and basically with her with Miami in the picture as well, and asked the question on her Insta story about whether feet toe rings in particular are trashy, tasteful, or undecided depending on the feet. Now she got some stats back, and I decided to do exactly the same thing, used exactly the same profile photos and all that kind of stuff. I got completely different stats. Yeah. So 78% of my list our listeners said they're trashy, right? Um, I think it was like 13, no, 22% said tasteful, which was pretty much Miami. Um And then the rest, whatever that was, said undecided depending on the feet. And that was actually Brittany.
SPEAKER_07Um I had I had 56% say trashy.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_07There were quite a few guys in there, too. Um I had 11% say tasteful, which is not me. I think it was me.
SPEAKER_04And me and Taste.
SPEAKER_07And 33% said undecided depends on the feet.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and I think it does depend on the feet to some degree, but I don't I don't find them trashy. Look, I mean, I think a toe ring on someone's foot can be quite sexy and quite sensual, actually. Okay. But we also looked into this, didn't we? Because I sent you guys the link. You did, you did, and it depends on cultures, it depends on, you know, um the the the the actual toe that you put the ring on is all relevant to a certain condition, whether you like what you know whether you're married, yeah, whether you're married or whether you want a happy uterus, I don't know. Apparently I want a happy uterus. Well, that's what it said for you, didn't it? You wanted it on the middle second toe.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So yeah, so for me, I don't want a happy uterus, I don't care um at all. I really don't care.
SPEAKER_07So you wear a cock ring but not a toe ring. Is that what you're telling me?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I'm happy for people to suck my cock, not my toe.
SPEAKER_07Um but you let Dave suck your toes.
SPEAKER_02No, I don't. I let him once he has. Yeah, I let him once just to see what it was like. And I literally nearly kicked somebody's face in the like Michael enjoyed it, didn't he? Oh, Michael loved it, but yeah.
SPEAKER_05Michael was good at doing it as well.
SPEAKER_07Was he? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Did he like it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Did you suck on Michael's toes? I did, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER_02Did you hear him that no? I can't, I just can't. It's just not for me. Like it's just, it's just it's just not for me.
SPEAKER_05So again, it's like a blow job, right? You know, you've got to be able to do it right, or you've got to have, you know, no teeth involved, because that can hurt. It's gonna rub against your skin.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's if somebody's doing that, I'm gonna say, can you chew my nails down there? Oh, fuck that. Talking to me. That's disgusting.
SPEAKER_08Are you okay with sucking?
SPEAKER_05Disgusting. I tell you. You know, I was a kid. When I was a kid, I used to bite my toenails. Oh, wow, you're flipping. I think I did too. I did. We used to be able to fucking get I used to be able to give myself away. Did you really? Did you really?
SPEAKER_07How the fuck did you two work that out?
SPEAKER_02Because it's your dick and you want it in your mouth. It was, honestly. I used to feel good.
SPEAKER_07Can I ask the question?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes, I did. But for the listeners at home that don't know where she was going, did I come in my own mouth? Yes, I did. Did you, Dave?
SPEAKER_05He still does.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I still would if I could. No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, um I can't remember. I think I think I would have done at least once. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_07Did you swallow your own cup? Yeah. You're a fucking filthy, dirty. Strangers. You're a dirty boy. Yeah, thank you. The things you learn on this podcast, eh?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but look, I used to actually, like, and how I used to do it was I'd lie on my back and put my legs over the exactly right.
SPEAKER_04Like over my hair.
SPEAKER_02Put them behind your face. Yeah, and you'd make things wiggle wiggle wiggle until you actually got to the point where you could get it in, right? You'd almost break your fucking neck.
SPEAKER_09But because you're younger, you're more flexible.
SPEAKER_02But you're flexible, right? Yeah, definitely. Like yeah, I had none of these fucking extra layers of tubbiness.
SPEAKER_07Now I'm sitting here wondering how many guys I know that have done that.
SPEAKER_02I would imagine quite a bit. I have lots of them. Ask Aaron. Ask Aaron. Right?
SPEAKER_07I'll message him.
SPEAKER_02So just learn. So just dear husband, uh, we're just Did you ever suck your own dick? Um to falacio. Yeah, it'd be interesting. Oh, look, we know we could ask a lot of people and they go, No, why would I do that? Right? I wouldn't even suck anyone else's.
SPEAKER_05Well, I reckon most people would taste their own cum at least once or wherever you come. Definitely.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, definitely, definitely. I've seen lots of people taste their own custom.
SPEAKER_05Because it's just a curiosity, isn't it? You know what I mean? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I've tasted it, but I'm not a fan of cum once it comes out of the bottom.
SPEAKER_05Have you ever fingered yourself and then licked your fingers as well?
SPEAKER_07Oh, no, well, no, but I'm just wondering. No, but I've taken like men always put their fingers like.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but what I'm saying is the same thing though, yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you're not objected to having your own taste because it's important, isn't it?
SPEAKER_07You know, like men always like fuck you and then they put their dick in your mouth. Oh, yeah. You taste yourself all the time. Yeah. Or do you suck it after it's been in your ass? If it's clean, if it's fine.
SPEAKER_02If it's clean, yeah.
SPEAKER_05If you know it's clean, yeah.
SPEAKER_02If you know it's fine. If you know that's you know if it's not clean because the smell when you're you can tell if it's not clean. Oh, yeah, for sure. There's a certain shitty smell to it, but yeah, and the colour.
SPEAKER_07Alright, we're meant to be talking about feet and we're talking about everything else.
SPEAKER_02So toe rings, like depending on the foot, on the on the actual toe. So um, in Indian cultures, a lot of people wear traditional toe rings, which I get, okay. I get that's a c a traditional culture thing, right? Yep. Um, a relationship status, so could simply mean that someone likes the beachy fashion and the boho fashion, which we have actually we've told you your new fashion style is boho.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm going off on that a bit. I was in the tree life the other day, actually. Yeah. Looking at some skimpy dresses from there, but they're cute.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that uh that's what we said that like we even chat GBT your face onto a thousand of those different dresses, and we said that that style would definitely work for you. Um, definitely, definitely. Um, a lot of them, the spiritual and energy meanings, the big toe is intellect and direction.
SPEAKER_07Who wants it? No, it's ugly. No one wants a toe ring on the big toe.
SPEAKER_02I say now we're choosy about where fucking it's a big thing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, well, that would be a bit nice.
SPEAKER_02Second toe is emotions and relationships.
SPEAKER_07Oh, that's where I want mine.
SPEAKER_02The third toe is creativity, right? The fourth toe is love, and the pinky is communication.
SPEAKER_07Me and Dave are both staring at my feet now as we say that.
SPEAKER_05That's the one I would go with. That one. Really? The fourth one, yeah. I think that's a good one. Yeah, well that's very that's love. Yeah, but I like that.
SPEAKER_02According to the energy and spiritual meanings.
SPEAKER_05Oh, what about the real meanings?
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what it's that's what I've got.
SPEAKER_07Maybe it's just whatever toe you like to be sucked more.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, maybe. Maybe it could be like Tuesday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
SPEAKER_02Or maybe it used to fit that toe, but doesn't fit that toe anymore, so you've had to move it down one.
SPEAKER_05Does it say anything? Because I reckon is that directed at anyone?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm just saying in general.
SPEAKER_07Is that directed?
SPEAKER_02I'm not fat-shaming your fucking cankles or your feet either.
SPEAKER_07I don't even have cankles.
SPEAKER_02No, you don't. You've got great ankles.
SPEAKER_07Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_02Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and you're looking at exactly.
SPEAKER_07Thank you, Dave.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, Matt. Get down and suck him, Dave. Oh, willing it. Um, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_07That's what he's waiting for.
SPEAKER_06I thought you were often to be disappointed.
SPEAKER_02He's begging for it. Um and the LGBT in fetish communities, in some parts it's a fetish aesthetic, right? Um, some thing people have it as a submissive and dominant symbolisation and some body appreciation culture.
SPEAKER_05But there was something we read about the material, like if it's gold or silver or whatever it means thing as well. I don't know where they read that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it all means something, something different. Diamond ring. It does mean something different all the time.
SPEAKER_07But in Western Sydney, what's the meaning?
SPEAKER_02And you want somebody to look at your jewellery and because you know your fucking feet are going to be up there on their shoulders, all right? So that's very true, actually. True, right? Your feet are up on the shoulders.
SPEAKER_05I wonder what the equivalent of a 69 in toothpaste is.
SPEAKER_07What do you mean stuck in each other's toes?
SPEAKER_04That'd still be a 69.
SPEAKER_07It wouldn't be really. No, but you wouldn't, you'd just have like one foot.
SPEAKER_02It'd be an 11. Um because you're really in line with each other.
SPEAKER_07Five for five.
SPEAKER_02Oh dear girl, sucking up a hero.
SPEAKER_07Unless you have an amputee toe, and then you can have so what do we think about um people selling foot photos?
Feet Pics Side Hustle Maths
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07So I've got an idea.
SPEAKER_02Okay, again, and Brittany wanted to do this, and she kept Why didn't she? She kept asking, right? I think she wanted us all to do it, like a community feet pick selling. Right. Well, she did come in that time with a shh fate. With a what? With the milky feet. And that was that was good.
SPEAKER_07Don't don't don't don't don't do it again. I'll vomit. You know, I can't handle that. That's too much. I'm a lover of the feet, I can't think about them in that way.
SPEAKER_02But when she did come in with that, uh when she asked about the feet selling um picks, picks and all that kind of stuff. I said, we've seen your milky feet, not gonna happen, right? Um, but like I I asked ChatGBT, because that's my go-to source from everything, right? Um, how do you make money? And it says, Oh no, what's what what money can be made from selling feet pictures, right? It says short answer, it ranges for almost nothing to thousands per month. It really depends on the effort, marketing consistency, right? Um, typical earnings for a beginner, right? And this ain't bad for a bit of extra cannon.
SPEAKER_05Can I can I just say, can I just throw in something here? Sure. What do you know what the terminology for toe sucking is?
SPEAKER_04What?
SPEAKER_05Can you know what the name is? What? Shrimping.
unknownShrimping.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it is too. That's shrimping. That's not is it really? Remember there was a famous one. I loved shrimp. Charles, no, who Andrew sucked Fergie's toes. Yeah, no, it was his.
SPEAKER_05Really? It was her her accountant. Was it? Yeah, her accountant she was. Oh, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_07They're all fucking weird over there. Sorry, Dave.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02They're all weird over here. He's the one that's fallen off the edge of the chair to suck yours. Oh, yeah. What about them anyway?
SPEAKER_05Alright. So, you come on, you didn't finish off fucking Fergie's thing.
SPEAKER_04No, that's that's what's what it was. I mean it was all over the head for the phone.
SPEAKER_07I want to know how much money I can make.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, alright. So, beginners, right? So $50 to $300 per month, right? Okay, so where do I on Footly?
SPEAKER_07Footly.
SPEAKER_02Is that like a that's a website, right? Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_05It's that like Bingley's brother.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but then it's got casual growing sellers, um, around $200 to $1,000 a month, right? Consistent creators, roughly $500 to $2,500 a month, right? And that's on Footly as well. What they do? Sell feet picks days. Yeah, but is that like the I I'm not going onto this website. You go onto it, you do it. I'm not doing it. I'm not having it on my phone. It's already bad enough that I'm gonna get fucking Google ads on Facebook for fucking feet pics.
SPEAKER_07I already do, so let me just do that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but now that we've spoken about it, they're all gonna come up online. Top earners between 5,000 to 20,000 per month. Rare, usually with a big following, right? Like, I reckon you could do that, right? Like, oh like wow, it's gross, it's gross. Um, how much each photo sells for? Basically, five dollars to twenty-five dollars on sniffer, right? High quality picks, twenty to fifty dollars on odd culture. Custom request, please make the most money. $50 to $200 plus on that's on odd culture. So I kinda want to go to odd culture and find out what else I can make money for. Because maybe because maybe my odd ugly toe will be somebody's mount for. But maybe it'll be somebody. These down for. Maybe somebody will be juicy over my ugly toes.
SPEAKER_07I've just got a competition.
SPEAKER_02Well, we're gonna start a profile.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and we'll come back in a month. See who can actually make the most money.
SPEAKER_02Well, we know how my OnlyFans went.
SPEAKER_05Oh I'm wondering. I'm wondering, right? Let's do it. This could be something we could do on the market, right? Do you know people, you know, put their cocks and whatever else. Right a dick. No, they they make casts of them. Oh yeah. Can we make casts of our toes and put them online and sell them?
SPEAKER_07Oh, I think there's like ones where you can sell your dirty socks. Yeah, and then they're not. Can't we make foot casts? Yeah, but foot casts. No, because foot footage, because they want to see your photos and then they want to smell your feet.
SPEAKER_05So you send a dirty sock and put a dirty sock with it. They can smell that and have the real foot as well.
SPEAKER_02Oh. This is so gross from here. It's not funny. I love it.
SPEAKER_05You've got to go back and straighten your toes later, aren't you?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it says it's not a get-rich queen. It's a quick thing. Um, can you do me a favour? What's up, Miami? Stop signing up while we're actually doing the podcast. Well, we're not signing anything up. Just checking something. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07I just asked a question.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I thought you had definitely gone down a hyper focus reel and you were about to sign up while we're online.
SPEAKER_07I asked if you can sell dirty socks. Oh. Yes, you can sell dirty socks. It's a legitimate and surprising, surprisingly ludicrous-sided hustle within the worn items market in Australia. Reselling secondhand goods is legal. Though there are specific platforms, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Let's you. All things worn. And so fair grey.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_07And Reddit. Pricing guide $20 to $30.
SPEAKER_02Wow, I don't even pay that for some of my socks. I got a pair of bunnings ones the other day for free.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, for the day.
SPEAKER_07At a daily premium, most sellers add $10 to $20 per day of wear.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. So if you're wear- but I'm not wearing my socks for more than a day. It ain't happening. But then again, if I can make a hundred bucks off them, maybe I will. Maybe I could just lie. Well, people know. I don't know. I'm talking to two people that are supposed to be in the room, but they're busy on their fucking phones.
SPEAKER_07I'm looking forward to the phone.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're researching, but we're actually talking now. Yes.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02You're talking over us.
SPEAKER_07Don't. Don't tell him how he feels, please.
SPEAKER_02I know. I'm gonna be feeling a certain way in a minute if you just don't fucking get him.
SPEAKER_07Well, my phone's down, so let's have a competition. We need to like have a time frame of a month. Yep. We need to set it up properly, and we need to see who And report back. Who can make the most money off their feet?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_07I'll do it. I'm answer the challenge.
SPEAKER_02Now.
SPEAKER_07Do we have to pay tax on that? Like, like, like when I go to my tax account in in July or whenever, do I have to say, oh like I made $2,000 from something feet?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. But then you're gonna say so. Well, you're gonna have a registered account for it. I would say so.
SPEAKER_02But you'd have to be a business account. Only friends you have to actually register as an account. Yeah. You have to have an ABC. I think I don't know. Do you? Or just do a poll and see how many people would stick your toes.
SPEAKER_07You're gonna hyperfocus and work all this detail out for us and then we're gonna You're gonna spend the money, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um all right, so here's some interesting feedback.
SPEAKER_07What if someone wanted a collaboration? Would we get our feet together for a collaboration?
SPEAKER_02I don't know how that works. Do you put your two feet into one sock? Like I don't know. I don't know. This the whole feet world is different for me and not something that I care to explore.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I used to come in my sock. Yeah. Yeah. It's a sock fucking.
SPEAKER_02I think I think your son's got about 400 socks under his bed. Does he? Yeah. Yeah, until Dave cleaned them out. That's what boys do, correct. Wait till yours gets old enough. That's only when you got through all the toilet roll
Foot Facts To Settle Arguments
SPEAKER_02and realize he wasn't in the toilet roll, though. Yeah. Um, so did you know that each foot has 26 bones, 33 joints, and over a hundred muscles, tendons, and ligaments. That's skin.
SPEAKER_07Fucking interesting. I understand.
SPEAKER_02Feet can sweat a lot. Yeah, we know. Feet have about 250,000 sweat glands, right? It can be juiced up to half a litre of sweat a day.
SPEAKER_07Oh fuck me.
SPEAKER_02And you'll want to wear your socks for multiple days. People want to pay you for half a litre of sweat. That's gross. Feet are super sensitive. Well, we all know that because everyone knows if you stand on a piece of Lego, you're fucked. Yeah, exactly. And the same if you get tickled, it's really or a bendy. Yeah. Most people have uneven feet. Did you know that? One foot is slightly bigger than the other. Yeah, mine is. It's common to buy shoes that fit the larger foot only, so your other foot gets flailing around.
SPEAKER_07I really don't know. I just like it. I put it on and like it fits.
SPEAKER_02Did you know that toe prints are unique?
SPEAKER_07Toe prints? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Is that like henna? No, it's like a fingerprint. Like a fingerprint. Oh, they're unique. Right? There you go. Yeah. Oh, they're the same as your fingers, though. I wouldn't imagine so, Dave. They're unique. It says so on the box.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but it's your fingers, so they're unique to you.
SPEAKER_02No fingerprint is the same. Like your middle finger and your index finger are different prints. I don't know about that. I do. I'm telling you, I watched CSI.
SPEAKER_07Um Matt's all over Lawrence Order. He knows all that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, correct. Feet odor isn't sweat itself. It's just like most sweat, uh, the smell comes from bacteria breaking down on the skin.
SPEAKER_08Tasty. High heels. Tasty.
SPEAKER_02High heels change your posture. No shit, Sherlock. Wearing high heels shift the centre of gravity and changes the alignment of your knees, hips, and spine. So stop it.
SPEAKER_05How would you feel, right, if you went to a restaurant and you didn't know this sort of restaurant was like it wasn't a high-end one, but you know, somewhere dodgy. Right, and you had food and you had on you mean. And you uh you asked for ice cream, you asked for parmesan cheese, and what they're doing.
SPEAKER_06No, Dave, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_07What would you do if you found out though? After I would I would fucking flip loose. I'd be thrown tables. That's disgusting.
SPEAKER_05I'm sure someone's done it though.
SPEAKER_03Alright, okay, alright. This is my last foot fact, right?
SPEAKER_02Right. Okay. The fear of feet is called. Does anyone know what the fear of feet is called is called?
SPEAKER_07I feel like I did know, but I can't think of it now.
SPEAKER_02Podophob pod of potophobia. Podophobia, yeah. Podophobia, right? Which is all gross. I'm all feed it out. Now, I've got a genuine question, Dave. What? Tomorrow, do you want to go for a pedicure?
SPEAKER_05No, I've never had a pedicure. You've never had a pedicure. I've never had a pedicure. I don't think I could last. I don't think it'd last. Why?
SPEAKER_07You like your feet touched and lift and stuff.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but I don't know if I'd like having them polished and rubbed and not your knobs.
SPEAKER_07First of all, they won't polish them. I want to go for a foot massage. Tomorrow's mother's day. I need a foot massage.
SPEAKER_05So what what would you do, right? If you went for a body massage and they got on your foot and then suddenly they started sucking your toes.
SPEAKER_07I would just say I'm not paying extra for that.
SPEAKER_05You kill. Do you ask them to carry on? Does this come with a happy ending?
SPEAKER_07It's just it's just my toes, after all, isn't it?
SPEAKER_05It was saying on my thing, I was reading this while I was reading while I was getting distracted that some people can orgasm by having their toes sucked. Really? Absolutely. And it increases the sensation of ejaculation. You know what I'm doing? What? I'm stopping you from sucking her toes just in case. No, the person receiving that that chair isn't equipped for the wet blanket.
SPEAKER_06I would I would have planned.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I would get gushed because she's the one having the orgasm, not me. What are you doing?
SPEAKER_03These little piggies, season Dave.
SPEAKER_05When are we gonna do this?
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna I no, we need to we honestly need to make money off it. What am I gonna suck you to? Oh, jeep.
SPEAKER_06I feel like that we just need to get it. I feel like Dave, he's asked too many times. I feel like he's not gonna move on until I just thought he was like
Toe-Sucking On Air
SPEAKER_06my dough.
SPEAKER_03Go for it. But I don't know how.
SPEAKER_07But the thing is, Dave, they've been in my sweaty slippers. So I feel like you're probably gonna need to make them first.
SPEAKER_02Get the wipes, Dave. Get the wipes. I'm not moving from this microphone. I need to commentate this. Are you gonna describe? Are you gonna describe it? Are you gonna describe? We'll both describe. Right.
SPEAKER_05If you can control this is gonna Well, I'm gonna have to you'll have to spin your chair around.
SPEAKER_07It's been a lot of years.
SPEAKER_05Alright, okay. This is what I promised Bron and John, wasn't it? Yeah, I know. What?
SPEAKER_07They could suck their toes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Really? No, not the other ones. Bron and John. Bronno and John. Bron and John O. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um where that I'm just gonna go off the mic. Dave's gonna go and get the wipes. Um and he he will still talk at times. I'm gonna turn his microphone down because there's no one on there.
SPEAKER_07Get my toes out of my slippers and let them air for a second.
SPEAKER_02And um, so so currently let me describe Miami's feet. So she's got quite cute little toes as far as toes go.
SPEAKER_07Oh, thanks, Matt.
SPEAKER_02Um, they've got pink nail polish on at the moment, but she seems to have a scar over her left side big toe. That one? No, that that's your right. I don't have a scar. That is left. Where? Is that a scar or is it just from where you're I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07Just just scar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know whether that's a toe or what that is.
SPEAKER_07Why are you trying to point out flaws in my perfect feet?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm just trying to make them exclusive.
SPEAKER_08I can't watch it. How long are you gonna be down there?
SPEAKER_03You're not going down there for a long time, Dave. So Dave's going down.
SPEAKER_08I can't do this. I can't. I can't take this seriously.
SPEAKER_03He's just wiping her feet now as we sleep.
SPEAKER_08Um I'm just gonna I'm gonna spit out my tequila. Okay, I can't do this. He's on a cushion. He's kneeling on a cushion. On my dog.
SPEAKER_02For the listeners, he's wiping her toes as we speak. He's getting right in between because we don't want any jam.
SPEAKER_07Um I gotta cover my face. I can't wait. Sorry? I'm not sure. It's I don't know. It's been a while.
SPEAKER_02He's all giving her a manicure, a pedicure here. Um, it's an interesting sight to behold. All right, and here he goes.
SPEAKER_06And um I can't look, I've got to cover my mouth.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06So he's using his tongue. I felt a bit of teeth. There's a bit of teeth there.
SPEAKER_03So Dave's full going to town on her toes. All right, stage, stop, Dave, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You're gonna get gushed. Stop.
SPEAKER_07Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_07I don't know what you're complaining about, Matt. I'll let him do that all the time.
SPEAKER_03That's that's too much for me.
SPEAKER_07But um um Matt, do you wanna do you wanna I'm alright, thank you.
SPEAKER_02I'm alright, thank you. Dave, you might want to gargle before you even think about kissing me. They took nice. Um Were they nice?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, nice toes. Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's really cool.
SPEAKER_05So Were they soft? They are soft, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Explain the the the God, explain while I gain composure and have a drink. Joe Miami.
SPEAKER_07I was a bit ticklish when you put your tongue in between the toasts.
SPEAKER_05But did it feel quite sensual? Yeah, it did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07But uh slightly awkward because Matt was staring me in the eyes. So I didn't know. I didn't know I didn't. I had to put my shirt over my face for a little while.
SPEAKER_05Alright, Dave, Aaron, Aaron, it was great. Explain your process to me.
SPEAKER_07Can you tell Aaron it's not that bad? Because I've been asking him for ages.
SPEAKER_05I thought to me, it's just like stuck in the a cock, but it's like small. I don't know any cock that has a nail on the top, just partly. But what I'm saying is the techniques and stuff that you could use. I mean, obviously I didn't go too deep and too hard with you.
SPEAKER_02Was there was there a fear of maybe cutting your tongue on her toenails? No.
SPEAKER_08No, would they not? No.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if you could get candy flavoured pedicures. I wonder if you get candy flavoured nail polish. Why would you want candy needles?
SPEAKER_07I don't think it would stay on like candy flavored polish.
SPEAKER_04It wouldn't stay the taste wouldn't stay, would it?
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't know. You get those all day suckers and the taste stay for ages. All day suckers. Like the fuck's that? The gobstopper lollies.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it was a sweet, not nail polish. And that's yeah, less like chemical walk around in.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I don't know. I'm just trying to think the only way you can do it is to put you paint them with like toffee or whatever. Thanks, Dave. You're welcome.
SPEAKER_07Thanks for that.
SPEAKER_05You're welcome. Wow.
SPEAKER_07I've done a look how much I've done.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no wonder. Um you try to cleanse your mouth. Um no. No.
SPEAKER_08What?
SPEAKER_02For what? They're perfect. No, they were clean, uh, especially after he. So what was your take on me doing it? What were you? Um, I was in hysterics laughing because it was just um it's a it's an odd thing to watch. It's not something that I had no movement. I can guarantee. Does it look perverted? Yeah, it just didn't look right. Um for me it's But that's because I don't like the sensation.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but then did it look right when he was sucking Michael's toe too?
SPEAKER_04Give me your fingers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02I've had you suck my dick before. It's alright.
SPEAKER_05I know I know how you suck. I'll tell you what I was doing. Give me your hand.
SPEAKER_04I can I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_05Give me your hand. No, give me a hand of this. Oh god.
SPEAKER_02Look, this is what it was like it was like he was eating their pussy, but in between the toes, basically. That's right.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but how does my toe juice feel on your hands?
SPEAKER_02Well, now that it's run down your side of your bar, um have to fucking throw that chair out. Um, she put it she put a cushion on it before. Um, but yeah. Um so yeah, um that was toe sucking with David. Yeah, we could do a segment every week like that. Yeah, no, we can't. No, you can't. Alright. Okay, I could not cope with that every week.
SPEAKER_07So before we move on, yeah, we're gonna clarify that me and Matt are gonna have a foot off.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think you should, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_07And when we make our like $2.65, we'll come back. You can spend it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, we're all three of us are gonna do it. Oh, Dave. Actually, four of us. We're gonna get Brittany in on this as well because she's the one that suggested the idea.
SPEAKER_05Why don't we get the get the two girls in as well? Blondie and Chanel. That oh, I'm not gonna dog to that. I'm not doing that to my children. Dog foot finish.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you don't want some of that.
SPEAKER_02I don't want anyone finding my girls attractive like that. That's creepy. Um, no, no. No, she's my good girls. Um, yeah, and my Blondie's got chunky feet. Um feet? Can't even see your feet. Yeah, because they're furry. Um, bit like mine. Um Do you have toe hairs? No, no, didn't feel any toe hairs on your toes? Not sure.
SPEAKER_06You had to arse.
Red Light Reading Room
SPEAKER_02Alright, so I did have a jingle for this in the next segment, but it was on my phone and I meant to transfer it across to the machine, but I didn't do that. And Dave's created 45,000 other songs in the meantime. So we're just gonna go on in to the red room of reading.
SPEAKER_07Some of our listeners we had it. We're going into Miami's red light reading room.
SPEAKER_02Red light reading room, that's what it was called. Miami's red light reading room. Did you save it? No, I didn't save it because I played it on my phone. Um and and I didn't. I've got bone to pick of it.
SPEAKER_07Anyone are uh wondering, yes, they bicker like this all the time. Yeah, excuse me, but I've got I've got bicker now that matters. It's going to suit. Okay, such are my toast.
SPEAKER_02It doesn't matter. It's it's it'll take far too long to find.
SPEAKER_07Just give us something to read.
SPEAKER_02Just open it. Throw it at me. Here we go. So what I prepared, and when I say prepared, I mean picked up off the table which is a good one. Is the modern barbecue essentials um recipes for grilling for Ziggler and Brown grill, right? So I've got a Ziggy, which is like a it's a um Barbecue's galore version of the Weber barbecue, right? And when I bought the Ziggy, they they sold me this book.
SPEAKER_08We don't need the like fuck you.
SPEAKER_02Um so they sold me. So what I'm gonna get you to do, I'm just gonna hand you the book open to a recipe, right? For anyone that doesn't know. Can you pass it on to me or no? I'm passing to Miami, then she'll pass it to you, right? Open the book, don't look it. What's it?
SPEAKER_07You've seen it's the first one I opened. Yep, right.
SPEAKER_02I've got a reading. She's gonna read this one. And she's gonna pass you the book, you're gonna open. Okay. And vice versa.
SPEAKER_07But we're not gonna read the whole thing, hey.
SPEAKER_02I'll just read like the first couple of you can do the ingredients and then pass it on, and Dave will carry on.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I'm gonna look too on each. Alright. Can you just not look at me?
SPEAKER_02Okay, alright, so how this reads. How many seconds are you doing it?
SPEAKER_07I need Yes, if you don't mind, I'll make it easier.
SPEAKER_02I need a sexy voice. Okay. Alright, as sexy as you can. Don't look at me. Alright, go. Red light radio. Go, Miami.
SPEAKER_07Close the hood and preheat the barbecue. Set the burnister high in the hood down until the hood thermometer reaches 200 degrees Celsius. Combine garlic, ginger, chili, herbs, and spices into a small bowl. Rub the herb mixture all over the lamb. Season. Place lamb in an oiled large baking dish. Rose for 180 degrees. Add figs to this dish. And drizzle with honey.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I'm a bit hard. Um just quietly.
SPEAKER_05How was that? Have I just got to flick a picture?
SPEAKER_02That was fucking sensational. That was sexy as hell. That was really sexy this time. Significantly better than last time.
SPEAKER_07Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07It's what happens after I get my toaster. See. I can't do that. Why? Well, I had to do the one that I opened.
SPEAKER_05But that was just like almost the same as what you had, literally.
SPEAKER_07Oh, okay, then pick another.
SPEAKER_02You just gotta go further down the recipe sometime.
SPEAKER_07You just pick out a few notes. No.
SPEAKER_02You can do you can read from whatever part you want, Dave.
SPEAKER_05Okay, I'm gonna read it all. Okay. No, we'd maybe not all of that. It's called sardine skewers. Okay. Sexy. Make a sexy Dave. Are you ready? Oh, we're ready. One cup of Fermi.
unknownSorry. Sorry.
SPEAKER_05Closer to the microphone, sorry. That'll be helpful. Yeah, we'll do it. Oh, start again, sorry. Right. One cup of Fermi packed fresh, flat in it. Parsley leaves. Chopped coarsely. And I mean coarsely. A quarter cup of 70 grams of coarsely chopped preserved lemon rind. A quarter cup of 60 millimeters of mustard seed oil. Four globe carlies. Sorry, globe garlic.
SPEAKER_08You lost me!
SPEAKER_05I know crushed. Ten butterfilled sardines. Make the guacamole dressing by combining parsley, preserved lemon oil, and garlic in smaller bowls. Close the hood and preheat the barbecue with the burn it set high. And the hood down until the health of the thermometer reads about 200 degrees Celsius. Spread those sardines into ten metal skewers. Season and set the grill to medium. Cook the skewers on heated oil and grill until cooked approximately three to four minutes per side. Serve the skewers with wet, wet, drizzled dressings.
SPEAKER_02Alright, that's sexy enough for me. Thank you very much. We'll pass that off. Good day. I'm gonna shut the book again. Then I'm gonna open it to this section here. Oh, this couldn't have been better if I tried. I know, it's all about toes, isn't it? It's gonna be pork, isn't it? No, it is. Alright, people.
SPEAKER_01I hope you're ready for this. Because this time, red light reading presents to you Matt Neadventures. Smoky bacon. Roll. Yeah. Combine sea salt and pepper. Sprinkle over the pork and pressed coat. Transfer pork to a large ziplop bag. And any remaining salt and mixture. Seal. Refrigerate for up to three days to allow the pork to cure. Returning occasional to cure evenly. Rinse pork briefly under cold running water. Pat dry with paper towel. Pork roll pork really to form a cylinder. Entire. Two centimeters. Bracket. Three quarter inch. Close bracket. Intervals with kitchen string. Set aside for 30 minutes to come to room temperature.
SPEAKER_02Alright. That was smoky bacon roll. How hot were you? Very good. Smoky bacon roll. Like, come on. If that wasn't destined to actually happen to me. Yeah, you like your bacon, don't you? I'd fucking love bacon roll.
SPEAKER_07I didn't even know what the fuck I had, but it was tasty.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's very tasty. Yeah, it was tasty.
SPEAKER_05It was like pork ribs or something like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was like something sexy and hot. That was definitely that was hot.
SPEAKER_07Well, that was the red light reading room.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, that was a segment brought to us by Miami as well. Yes, she's good at bringing segments. She's good at bringing segments.
SPEAKER_07She's got some ideas.
SPEAKER_05She'd just be a regular on our show, I'm just so smart.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. I'm gonna make my own show.
SPEAKER_05You are. And what's the other thing be called? Reading Room Miami.
SPEAKER_07No. No, she's got a The Morning After.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the morning after with Miami. Yep, yep, yep. And it's meant to be.
SPEAKER_07He's such a smart ass. The morning after with Miami and Matt.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's right. That's right. I got a feature. You do. We're gonna have like Matt and his grind.
SPEAKER_07Of course you can, Dave. You're welcome anytime, especially with the Winnie Suck pose.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, you got the Grinder Tales? The Grinder Chronicles. Chronicles, that's what it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Walk of Shame or Fame.
SPEAKER_02Fame, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_07And there's some others.
SPEAKER_02There's heaps of others that you came up with, which actually really do make for a good series. They do. So we may we may see a spin-off coming soon. Um where Matt finds a time. That's that's the tricky part, isn't it, really?
SPEAKER_07And if he doesn't, I'll replace him faster than Carl Sanderland's replaced studio.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Spicy. Yeah, yeah. Naughty but nice.
SPEAKER_02So come on now, what's his next segment, Miami? Well you brought this one to the table, so I'm gonna let you understand.
SPEAKER_07There's two, so I don't know what you're going for.
SPEAKER_02Who's who? Versus versus. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07Oh, are you? Because I was gonna throw some really sticky questions at you guys. Okay. I don't know how we're going for time.
SPEAKER_05Well, what are we up to, Matt?
SPEAKER_02We've got 46 minutes. Okay, we're gonna do it. Okay.
SPEAKER_05What left? Or are we done?
SPEAKER_02No, we were up to.
SPEAKER_05Keep it short then.
SPEAKER_07I am going to throw some sticky questions at you guys.
Are Matt And Dave Together
SPEAKER_07Okay. We're gonna take it to a serious note for a little bit.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Now, I feel like I'm the uh probably correct person to ask you guys these questions because you know I mean no harm at all.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And I'm very upfront and honest.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_07So from the moment you guys became friends, I'm sure you guys got a lot of questions around are you in a relationship? Are you friends? Do you sleep together? What is this? With a lot of like people trying to understand the dynamic. Am I right or wrong? Yeah. Lots of people want to know. And the ones that and the ones that like probably didn't ask you are thinking it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, lots of people ask all the time. Right.
SPEAKER_07So I thought I would be here to ask the questions that no one wants to ask. Okay. And put you two on the spot. How do you feel?
SPEAKER_02Fine. Absolutely. Fine. I got nothing to hide. I already know. I think we're very comfortable in our own arrangement.
SPEAKER_07I think so too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So I'm gonna start by saying that I think your fuckership friendship thing. Yep. Fuckership friendship is absolutely perfect. Yeah, and I couldn't imagine you guys being any other way. I think it it works so well, and I've never seen Matt as happy. And I just think it's it's great. There's no pressure, use a friend, and you just have fun. That's that is the way I see it. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Correct.
SPEAKER_07So here I'm go. So I'm gonna throw some questions at you guys.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_07Are you guys in a relationship?
SPEAKER_05No. Well, define a relationship.
SPEAKER_07Are you guys in a committed relationship? Boyfriend, boyfriend relationship.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_07Not even an open boyfriend relationship.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no.
SPEAKER_07Do you just class yourself as friends? Yeah, best friends.
SPEAKER_02Close, close, close friends with benefits. Okay. Yeah, when people say what what are you two together? I go, No, we're we're friends, we're benefits.
SPEAKER_05We we do everything together, like a couple would do, right? We go everywhere together in terms of holidays. But that's because we enjoy each other's company. Yeah, I get it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07But for me Do you want to take a sip of that margarita, or are you gonna keep getting on the defense?
SPEAKER_02Oh no, no, no, I'm not on the defense at all. No, no, I was trying to explain at the same time. Sorry.
SPEAKER_07I'm sorry, I'd take a sip of your drink. So I'm gonna take a sip of your drink anyway, because this taste I've drank all mine. So when you guys first became friends, obviously that's the sugar.
SPEAKER_02Sorry.
SPEAKER_07When you guys first became friends, obviously Matt was in an open relationship. Yeah. You guys met, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When Matt exited that open relationship, was there any was there any talk of where that left you guys, you guys becoming anything?
SPEAKER_02No, I think for me, gone. Not from us. No. Everyone, including my ex, right? Yeah. Um, had an opinion of that I was leaving to pursue a relationship with Dave. Right. Now, Dave didn't even know that I'd actually separated from my extra. I was shocked, I was right. Right. He was the last one to find out. Yeah. Right. Because I made that decision for myself, because I'm an adult. And I made the decision to be single because I wanted to be single, not to jump into the next relationship. That's not who I am.
SPEAKER_07Knowing the background of how that's I can totally side with.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but also I didn't know enough about Matt's previous relationships either, so I was like really confused as to what was going on. I mean, I mean, there was nothing that my relationship was money. He didn't leave his ex for me, and I know that because we didn't even speak about anything like that. Well, I know that we both had it on the lines that there was no because I was I'm technically still married, as you know, right? Even though I've been separated to a woman, yeah, to a woman, but I've been separated for like 16, 17 years. So we're we're pretty much single, but we just haven't gone through the divorce side. And for me, I've had two serious relationships with boys or men, so yeah, male. Sorry, good work. And
Boundaries Trauma And Staying Single
SPEAKER_05the first one was fine. I left that one because I was still coming out and learning, and I I didn't want to break his heart, and I had to get out there, and and there was nothing wrong with that relationship at all. Yeah, the second relationship was very toxic, and I think I learned a lot about myself and having my walls up and having you know never wanting to go down that path ever again. I mean, I got to the point where I thought I was never going to even meet other people. Yeah, my psychologist convinced me to get out there and say, you know, you know, your narcissistic, you know, previous relationship is one that they got control over, you if you let it happen. So I took the stents, and even then I was still having the walls up. But for me, I've learned to love myself more, but surround myself with the people I want to be around and love. And if I was to get into a relationship with somebody and then it all falls down, then that to me is like losing someone that I've invested my time, energy, and love for. Yeah. So for me, pushing that boundary and not giving that person respect or space would hurt me more for losing that person, if that makes sense. So for me, not entering to a relationship would be the safest option for me, and that's what I've always sort of like gone forward. I don't need to have someone 24 in my life, but I can be around someone for 24 hours, but I don't need to have that pressure of being judged or being, you know, told that I've got to commit to them or whatever it might be, you know.
SPEAKER_02So um so I like me as a single person as well. I like you as a single whore too. Because I can literally I can finish work, and if I'm feeling a certain kind of way, right, I can take myself off to the sauna. Yeah, right. I can fuck somebody, suck someone, get fucked, whatever. I can do whatever I want, right? When I want, how I want. And I do not have to tell anyone, right? I don't have to explain to anyone. Now, yes, I normally do tell Dave, but that's because he wants to know the dirty gossip. Yeah, exactly. And he wants to know like I do. Yeah, he wants yeah, exactly. Because I get on by it as well. Any different than me telling you all the details because you want to know, oh fuck, what happened at the showers at the gym that day? Um I think it's great. It turns me on, it is great.
SPEAKER_07I think it's it's awesome because it's so when Matt separated from his partner, yeah, and you guys were obviously friends with benefits, did you have to have a conversation together to make sure that the waters didn't get muddied now that you were both single?
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, I did. I did. I I wanted to have that conversation because even though I'd said to Dave while I was in the open relationship, this is only ever going to be physical, like with friendship attached to it, but like not the friendship that we have now, that's for sure, because I was keeping a distance because I was in a relationship at the same time. But I'd said I'd made sure that Dave was fully aware, and there was a time when there was a the three of us that were actually sort of in this friendship, yeah, and different times, and I'd said to both of those guys, if there's a time that someone comes along in your life, right, and you think, Wow, this is a great guy, I want to have a relationship with him, please go forth and do it. Don't let what we have hold you back, right? Because I don't want a relationship, I never, I'm never going to want a relationship, right? So therefore, right, it doesn't mean just because I don't want it, right? That that I don't want you to have it, and that I want you to remain single with me for the rest of our lives, right? Because if you're comfortable enough with one person, and one of our friends has just done that, like he's just gone off and he's now in a relationship and he's happy, right? And he was one of the people that we used to play with together and that. Yeah, you know who he is. And I don't wish I don't wish Clay any bad blood at all.
SPEAKER_05I want him to be happy. I want him to be happy. He also did tell us from the offset that he was looking for a relationship, he's looking for a relationship, and we kind of said, you know, well, don't jump into because he he was married to a woman, he's got two kids, and this is his like first opportunity to have a relationship with the same-sex person. So both Matt and I have had that experience, and like we tried to explain to him that it's not all about, you know, it's not what you think it is, especially in the gay world, it can be very, very toxic, as you know before. Yeah, yeah. Um, I'm not saying everything is, but can I but you've heard all my stories, so you know what's up.
SPEAKER_07I know, I know.
SPEAKER_05But also I said to you as well, Matt. I mean, Matt knew as well that I wasn't looking for a relationship either. Because I mean he knew he knew that I was married.
SPEAKER_02But we made it very to answer your question, yes, we made it very clear um from the get-go that that was the boundaries that we were setting in our friendship.
SPEAKER_05But I also I think it's I think it's nice that people can see that the friendship we have looks like a relationship, you know what I mean? They can see that we fit together well and it works well enough for people to think, oh, them two are in a relationship. So that's a nice thing to do. But we do care for each other. It's just the same I care for you like that.
SPEAKER_02But Cleo, I care for freaking friendly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know exactly.
SPEAKER_07I don't, yeah, just because you care for him doesn't mean you want to be in a relationship.
SPEAKER_02I don't want to fuck them all, yeah. No, because most of my friends are girls, yeah, and look, some of them like like Vic is not somebody they want to fuck. Love you, but no. Um, but John on the other hand, oh yeah. Um, but yeah, um, like as in John Muzo John, the guitarist. Oh, that one is hot, okay. He's hot, like Laura knows that too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, okay. They're fine. I mean, like I say, Matt would never overstep the mark, he wouldn't do it. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Unless you decide you're not one day.
SPEAKER_07You squeaky. Oh, it's blondie. It's bl blondie. She must have rolled over a new toy. So do you think your perception of that will change as you get older?
SPEAKER_05So let's say you say like I think we'll become closer friends and we'll be, you know, live together and codependent. Yeah, codependent. Codependent, but still I can't.
SPEAKER_07You'll be like codependent roomies.
SPEAKER_05But yeah, but it would never be to the point where we classify ourselves as but I look, I literally don't need you because what we've got is is special to ourselves. I know myself, right?
SPEAKER_07I would hate to I'm I'm I don't want to sound like a selfish bitch, but I would hate to see you guys in a relationship only because I would never want it to crash and burn. Well the thing is. Does that make sense? I I just want you guys to have your friendship and do what works for you guys and be happy.
SPEAKER_02Everyone in the gay community has their own idea of what their relationship is, and this is the beauty is of being a part of the LGBT community, right? Is that he left a few letters out, and I know apparently it's getting shorter. Um yeah, chopping them. Trying to make it easier for you, dumb, white, straight people. Um wow, wow. I'm kidding, you're not all dumb. This segment's getting cancelled now. Um it's trying sometimes. I wish I couldn't speak. Um but um it's it's it's good to be part of this community for the simple fact what do you think?
SPEAKER_07Blondie, what are you doing, you little fatty? She sat on it.
SPEAKER_04She was sat on the chicken.
SPEAKER_02Chicken. Um so um being part of this community, we set our own rules around relationships, like you know, and stuff like that. So um some people quite happily have an open relationship where they go and get thirds in where they go out together and play, where they go out on their own and play, and they all have their own perimeters and all that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_07But I feel like the waters still get muddy there.
SPEAKER_02My like my self, my true self, doesn't allow for that, right? I can't say that I'm in a relationship with someone and share that partner. It's just not what I do well, right? Yeah, I've tried it, right? It's not like I haven't tried it.
SPEAKER_07And I just want to- You'll be forced into trying it.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, the first one me and me and Darren tried it. And again, it didn't work, right? Um, the second one, I didn't even know about that um until well and truly after. And then the third one, again, didn't know about it. Thought, okay, let's try this as an option, right? Definitely not for me, right? So as I said, like so I'm not gonna jump into a relationship with anyone, whether it be Dave or anyone in the future, right? And say, let's be in a relationship because twice bitten, third time, I'm an idiot if I do it a third time, right? And and it doesn't mean I'm closed off to love, right? Because I'm happy to give love, happy to accept love, right? Um, but I just don't ever want to put myself in a situation of harm again where I'm broken because I was broken the last time. I know broken. I don't think people realise people because I'm really good at putting my walls up.
SPEAKER_07Because I think people realise just how fucked up that left me. That last one left you. Correct.
SPEAKER_02And that's why and it hurt, and some people that that still talk to him still don't realise how much it hurts slash hurts when I hear them even mention him and say what a good person he is because he was not a good person doesn't do that to somebody when you know that they've had past trauma. Like my past, like the second person was sleeping around behind my back, contracted HIV, right? Yep, um and I didn't know about it, potentially put me at risk, put my health at risk at a time when HIV wasn't covered the way it is now. 100%, I get you. Alright, so the thing is that and that was without my knowing. Now, this last partner knew that I went through all that, but then still did it.
SPEAKER_07This last partner also, I feel like, wanted this Wanted the visual of the relationship.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. Wanted the person.
SPEAKER_07Wanted the wedding, wanted the this, wanted that, and you went along.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, and you you And I wasn't the perfect partner, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'm perfect partner, nobody but But the thing is you I stated many times throughout that relationship if you don't ever want to be in this relationship, I'm a big boy, I can handle it. Come to me and say, This ain't working for me, right?
SPEAKER_07I want out he didn't, he wanted his cake and wanted to eat it too.
SPEAKER_02Correct, correct. So this is why I said I will never get into another relationship.
SPEAKER_07That person as long as you're with your last partner.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_07To the point where nearly 18 years. Yeah, exactly. To the point where you marry and you commit. Yep. And then that deceit is just Oh, it burned.
SPEAKER_05But it also denies you having your intimacy with people that you want to have intimacy with because you're not having it from the partner you're with, and you're then being held back if that makes sense. You sacrifice a lot.
SPEAKER_07The hardest thing for me as Matt's friend to sit back and watch.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And I don't know if it's the same for all these friends. I know that some are still friends with your ex-partner and so on, but I couldn't be, just purely, and that's not me throwing shade. No, just purely knowing how hurt you were and how broken you were, and knowing that it wasn't good enough that that person had done that to you, that post- all of that happening, they then tried to shift the blame to you.
SPEAKER_02Which is when to me when they tried to turn my family against me.
SPEAKER_07100%. When they tried to shift when they were shifting the blame, like, oh poor me, I've done nothing. He's just up and left me.
SPEAKER_02He's left me for some of the other.
SPEAKER_07And and this narrative when you had been cheating on him for years and lying, and then went into an open mar open marriage that you never wanted. That's not the way you ever pictured a marriage.
SPEAKER_05But you've also got to remember that you found out that by him leaving it about I found out the completely by accident.
SPEAKER_02It's not like he came to me and confessed.
SPEAKER_07No, you caught him out. I caught him out. Yeah. That's what I mean. It wasn't like it was you literally caught him out cheating.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_07And then you realised a whole heap of other scenarios where he had been doing it.
SPEAKER_02But you had overseas, everywhere, and that's it. Yeah, the trips to friggin' the city.
SPEAKER_07But to me, it was like you already broke him. No offense, Matt. Sorry, my mistake. You already broke him and and did that to him, but now you're going to play the victim and turn ever try to turn his family, try to turn everyone against him like he had done the wrong thing and he had done this. And it was hard for me to sit back and watch because I got quite defensive at times. And I just wanted to like jump on social media and put a big post up about it and say, fuck off, prick. Stop trying to put the because Matt just Matt just sat there. He just sat there and he just let that narrative run and he let everyone make their decisions.
SPEAKER_02I did I did it, I did quite a few things that and I just feel like in in retrospect, I kind of wish there was a few things that I'd done differently, and that's called out his behaviour. Yeah, me too. The way I wish you did. But I also wish that I'd kind of sat there and went, uh-uh, you're in the wrong here. So instead of me taking just what you believe I was owed from a household perspective, um, when we separated, I wish I had a financially went, no, fuck you, this is your mistake. You're going to the cleaners for this. Yeah, 100%. Right. But I didn't, and that's retrospectively, it's it's different. Um, but yeah, so that's what I but look, I and I will never put myself in that situation again.
SPEAKER_07And I also feel like had you just not sat back and been diplomatic like you did, I guess, would the people that still have him in their life still have him in his in their life? Do you know what I mean? If if you had not, if you had have stood up and said, hang on a second, you're actually fucking bullshitting. Does it everyone know all the things you did to me behind my back? And I guess looking at it from a girl's point, I'm like, if that was one of my girlfriends and their husband did that, I would fucking crucify him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So it's no different to you.
SPEAKER_01No, correct. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_07Like just because you male-to-male relationship. Yeah, yes. That's your husband who cheated on you and lied and hit it and then tried to gaslight the whole situation as if it was your fault. And if that was one of my female friends, fucking hell would it washed. All the girls would have fucking been an uproar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So I just couldn't, I just, yeah. So anyway, that's so anyway. So quickly, my last two questions, because I know we're out of time. So you aren't in a relationship. No. How often do you fuck a week?
SPEAKER_05Oh, not weekly. Not often at the moment, because we've been I've been just preoccupied with the house and stuff. But look, moving forward, I mean, with me being here, you know, going to stay with Matt went to have this soul for a couple of months, then that would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_02You'll be there to find out. Because I jerk off maybe four times a week, five times a week, sometimes, six times a week.
SPEAKER_07Six times a day.
SPEAKER_02But honestly, it depends on the day. The other week I was sat there and I thought to myself, fuck, I've already come three times today because I was just laying around the house doing not a lot, and I thought I've already come Fucking joked off three times like my dick's gonna be fucking broken in a minute and I just I'd because I'd open up my phone, send me the porn, and boom. So he'll be there to service that thing, and I'd go, Hey, get over here. Exactly.
SPEAKER_05But we've also not been going to the c um town's corner. And that's when we have mainly of our sex with me. It's like going and having like having a lollipop shop available to it. Yeah, it's just like going into activity together. And then we go and share, but we also go off on our own as well, you know, if you want to. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because what's better than one dick?
SPEAKER_05Lots of dicks.
SPEAKER_07So now I guess we can put that to bed. Yeah. And hopefully everyone has enough information.
SPEAKER_05I mean, to finish it off, I mean, if we want a relationship, we could have one, but we don't need to have that, if that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, what we've got is unique and special, it works for us.
SPEAKER_07100%. And and it's less likely to crash and burn.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. 100%. I mean, I still I still his family invite me to everything. He knows my family. And then I feel like friends. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like I'm part of his life anyway, you know what I mean? So that's all I need. Exactly right. Yeah. But yes.
SPEAKER_02But we've got a podcast together, so we kind of have to. Yes. Yeah. So when you have yours, then you can yeah. Okay, so that's um that's been today's toe sucking. All about the feet, and then a bit of a deep dive there as well.
SPEAKER_05See, I've actually got it down to do with my toe sucking that longer, so we need to get we need to get actually get Bron and John win over when you Bron and John oh. Sorry, Bronwyn and John o over with you, and we can do comparable and what you can tell them. What I can do.
SPEAKER_07Dave really wants to suck my face.
SPEAKER_05I like it. I like it. I like it.
SPEAKER_04It's just a weird episode of it.
SPEAKER_05If you if you're a guy, I'd suck a cock for you, but you can't
Wrap Up And How To Reach Us
SPEAKER_05watch.
SPEAKER_02He would probably take a part of that. I'll watch that one. That one I'd probably give you a bit more. Yeah, but but you need to be a boy.
SPEAKER_07That's a it's okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay. Yeah, but yeah. Anyway, I've been Matt. I've been Dave.
SPEAKER_07And I'm Miami.
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