Two Mates Test A Camper Van And Find Calm By The Sea

We hit record from the back of a Toyota HiAce parked above Manly Beach, and somehow that turns into the exact kind of reset we both needed. It’s Anzac Day weekend, the dogs are along for the ride, and we’re doing a one-night “van test” to see what works, what’s uncomfortable, and what needs upgrading before bigger adventures. Between coffee, a cracking sunrise, and scouting the best spots to park with nearby facilities, we’re reminded how powerful a tiny local getaway can be for mental health when life feels loud.

From the beach, we zoom out into the fun stuff we’ve been noticing in LGBTQ+ culture and queer community trends in 2026. We talk the moustache revival, why facial hair changes a face, and how queer-coded menswear keeps bleeding into the mainstream. Painted nails on men come up too, from activism signals to “my kid wanted to paint them” simplicity, plus the bigger question of what gender expression looks like now that the old rules are fading.

Then it gets real: online rage bait still brings out homophobia fast, even when the post is clearly a joke. We also chat about how dating apps and the digital world have changed who shows up where, and why relationship styles like open relationships and non-traditional boundaries are being talked about more openly. We wrap with our own take on public affection, kinks, and why consent and trust sit underneath all of it.

If you’ve been craving a laugh, a bit of honesty, and a nudge to take a breather, hit play then subscribe, share it with a curious mate, and leave a review so more people can find us.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_00 0:06

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SPEAKER_01 0:19

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SPEAKER_00 1:05

It is a mafternoon, it's almost morning, just after morning, but just heading into the afternoon. That's called mafternoon. It's a common it's a common phrase for the ADH world. From now onwards. Um okay, so yeah. Yeah, fuck off. Um but yeah. Hey Dave, where are we?

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Uh we are currently sitting in your van looking over Manly Beach in New South Wales, Sydney area for those that aren't into sorry, aren't living in Australia.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

In Australia, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

So what are we doing here then, Matt?

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Well we decided because it is Anzac Day last yesterday, and we decided that we'd bring the van out for just a little test, so a one-nighter, just to see what we need, what we didn't need, um, before we go and do bigger adventures and stuff like that as well. Also to see how comfortable the bed was, just to see if I've kitted it out with everything I need.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

And so describe the van to people like this.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

So it's a little it's a Toyota hi-Ace, it's pretty cool. It's um 2011 model, so it's not the newest new van. Um but it's got a nice, neat, clean little interior. It's um got two bench seats that actually sort of you take the the cushions off the back. It's a queen size bed. No, it's actually queen because I measured it and that's what yeah, yeah, it told me from a queen from a queen. I measured it and it told me that's what size it was. So um so yeah, it's got two little bench seats, shut up, and um I'm always into king size, you know that size queen. Um but two bench seats that basically fold down into a bed um by putting the back of the cushion sort of things um into the middle, and it turns into this very nice, luxurious, queen-sized bed.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

So we actually came over to Marley because we got friends over here.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Yeah, we've got friends over here, Rob and Aaron.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

They're heading over to the UK um shortly to get married, but they're also going to buy Reese on a free ship for 12 days. Yep. Um, so yeah, so we caught up with them yesterday. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Had a little bit great day, and um, if you're in Manley, you want to go to Bonsai. It's um it's a restaurant under the Four Pines, it's like a Japanese-inspired restaurant. Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's under the Four Pines microbrewery just opposite Manley Wharf. Great food, great beers, um, yeah, great company, obviously, as well. Um, but like the food was sensational. The um corn ribs are delicious.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Um, and they were telling us that um because Aaron is the manager in that particular part of the outdoors connects, uh he's been sort of like working on new sort of like new ventures, they do burlesque there.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

They showed this amazing, they have a comedy night there every every month, and it sells out. They have like Sundays and Saturday afternoons do DJs and stuff like that as well. So it's a yeah, cool venue, very cool venue, but the pork the pork belly was fucking sensational, but you know I love pork belly. Um always a fan of that, definitely. Um but yeah, like great I just love Manley so much. I'm just laying down because my back's a little bit sore from sitting in that position. I didn't do anything. No, he didn't do anything this time. This time he left me alone last night, which is the first time. Chanel and Blondie's so that when we when we do decide we're gonna go away, we don't have to find a pet setter every time, and so we can basically come along and take them and think you broke the dog just well for poor Blondie. She's this short little fat toy poodle, and she walked and walked and walked and walked until she could not walk no more, and uh, she still walked even though she couldn't anymore. Um she she was limping a little bit when we come back, she was knackered, she was knackered, my poor baby. But she's um she's now having a nap because we did a bit more walking this morning.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

We are deviating slightly. So we were asked by the guys, Rob and Aaron, to come over today, which we did.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

So we did.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

They obviously they got a van as well, and they've rent their house out every now and then through Airbus, which is a great opportunity and great venture for them. Um but they have obviously travelled and they've obviously worked out the best places to park in Manlin with the free.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

I've got like um facilities like communal showers, toilets, all that kind of stuff as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

We we checked out yesterday where they recommended the Queen's Cliff area, yep, which is where the dog lagoon is. Um then we decided that we'll come back and park on the actual main beach front because I've I'm not even gonna buy the support district, so for me, the timely is we don't have to worry about that. Yeah, but look, I mean we decided to actually stay in the actual on the seafront last night. On the seafront, and it was and it was sensational.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

Fantastic, it was like beautiful. Yeah, you're still here now during the podcast as we speak from here.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Well, we have been out for a few walks this morning. Yep, um we've got coffee. We witnessed a beautiful sunrise this morning.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

Sensational sunrise.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

And you know what? I was surprised at how many people get here about six o'clock in the morning to just get the car spaces.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

It was crazy. We got up and we walked down the van, and there was like loads of people just getting ready for the surfing, and yeah, it's a healthy life vibe over here for sure and certain.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

Like lots of joggers, lots of hot joggers, some that are free-balling when they jog, which is always a bonus, um, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Um, I mean, Manley's always been one of those places that I've always had that connection to. Everything's okay in Australia 21 years ago, and for me, it still has that resonation because it feels like you're on there, even though you live near the area. Yep. Um, and it's just a beautiful vibe about it, it's very chill. I mean, I've I've been quite stressed, as you know, this last couple of weeks, it's obviously my finally on the market, yay. Um hopefully it'll be a quick sale. Um, but for me, the stress of it all is just being sort of like taking side, and Matt's obviously being concerned and worried about being that picture. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

Yeah, so here we are. We're back again. Um, we had just had a phone call from my big sister, my big sister, um, who's currently driving the M12? What?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

On the M12, the new M12. But down by the new Badger's Creek uh Link airport where I live, down that end. Yes, yes. You alright there, young man? Sure, you can make a wrap. Um, but yeah, um so yeah, so basically my health has been sort of like you know, being a bit stressed, but coming here was definitely a good option for me. Um apart from having a bit of an upset stomach. Um I've really sort of enjoyed this last day and a half and I'm just chilled. I'm very, very, very, very. He's actually relaxed for Yeah, and I haven't felt this way for a long time. So, you know, doing these sort of things periodically, I think, is important for anybody's mental health. Yep. Um, you know, so get in the way and resetting and just letting yourself just like unwind and just letting you know things like take a back seat in your life and just an hour.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

This is an hour away for us, or just over an hour for us. So I think is it to get this much relaxation in somewhere that's only just an hour from home is pretty freaking awesome to think you can do it. So that's what I said, definitely gonna get back, get one of those little mattresses just to make it that little bit more comfortable, refine what we're packing again a little bit, um, and just do that. God, I can smell a kebab. Somebody's just dribbling past with a kebab or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Your sense of smell today for food is just unbelievable. Everywhere we walk past today, Matt was like, Oh, can you smell that? I can smell that. Smells that bacon. Everything smells that bacon.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Because yeah, too much use of narcotics when I was younger. Um snorting this and snorting that, but hey, um, but yeah, um, but yeah, and I've had my nose lots of fun places, so yeah. Um, but yeah, but we're just so yeah, you're a bit chill, which is really, really good. It's a chill vibe.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

It's I'll be even happier once the house is sold, obviously. Yeah, it's it's lots of but the pictures, pictures have come up really well in the house, aren't they? So you're gonna do you know you're gonna send the link on your.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

I'm gonna share the link on our pack and um hopefully some overseas buyer picks it up. Yeah, um, that'd be amazing. Um, but yeah, it's look the house is sensational, like I said last week. Um, but the photos have come up really, really good. Um, and that's because the house is really good. You've given them something to work with. Um, but as I said, I feel that this will sell really quickly, and again, hopefully for record numbers for you. Um, but it'll it'll be good, and then this will be one more chapter that's done, and yeah, next time we'll go into something a little bit easier. Um, but hey, um, you know, you do what you do because that's what you do. But but yeah, it's been that's been fun.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

But um otherwise, it's been a pretty quiet week apart from that, but it's yeah, quite week.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

We've just been working, like I said, it's Anzac Day. So um the pubs here yesterday were crazy. Yeah. Um, like we walked into two different pubs at two different times as well, and they were both playing two up, which um it's fun to do on Anzac Day, but we decided to give that a miss this year and um and just sort of well we had the dogs anyway, so we were looking at the dogs are getting stressed about it. And and yeah, one of them was so friggin' noisy that Blondie was getting a little bit anxious, so um I said let's get out of here um and get back to the van, and that's what we did. And we came back and we went for another bit of a wander. Up to Shelley Beach, um Shelley Beach. We drove up there and sunset there's sun sunset up there, which again was beautiful. Dave got some pictures of the moon that were insane. Um, but yeah, look, it's it's been a really nice little weekend away. Um, we were just chatting with my sister and um she said something about licked and fingered. I can't remember, but that's what the name of her new lesbian bar is gonna be, licked and fingered. Um look forward to doing progress for that. Um but yeah, so um, but yeah, it's been been a good weekend. But yeah, so what will we we will get that's that's pretty much it from our weekend up.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah, like I said now as a topic of conversation, we're back online again and we're gonna go. Oh shit now. So we we sort of like went online to have a look at sort of like the current topics that are in the in the sort of like the flavour for um the gay community and stuff at the moment. So what we tend what what we decided to do is we do uh things like current trends that are in the um the queer community in 2026. So wait, no, enough.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

So cultural and pop trends, culture and pop trends, basically.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Yeah, so we so can't sorry.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

So you talked about the mustache revival, the mustache revival.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Facial hair on men is such an important thing for me. It is, it is hair, full stop, body hair, everything is just I love I love masculinity in every single form. Yeah, um, but I've always been very drawn to people with like beards and mustaches, even women, um hairy armpits now.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

That one's for you, Sammy.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Um but no, I mean for me, you know, the you know, we we got a lot of people in the culture now that are straight people supposedly that could be or fluid, I don't know what they are, but I mean to me, you've got people like Benson Boone and stuff that are portraying these sort of like images like Tom Selleck had in the 80s with mustaches. No, that's what they call it.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

That's what kind of mustache I really like is the Tom Sellick sort of moustache with the magnum P I missing.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

But when you look at men that have no facial hair, they kind of look hot, but they they're missing something. But when they grow uh either a mustache, a little mo or a nice beard, it changes the look of them immensely, um, you know, and to me, you know, as long as they keep it to a decent length, it looks really great on people.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

No, some some guys have a real a great looking beard.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Yeah, but if it's if it's put on the right guy, but if it's maintained and groomed properly, yes. But when they let it go and it's just all whispering, it's just like long and okay. And it just takes away their features more, so you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

But um, but look, we do we do we are fans of a beard and we're definitely struggling, noisy little shit. Yeah. Um I'm gonna have to shut you out. I'm gonna put you outside the van. Um I won't do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Um so yeah, we're um but look, it's it's one of those things that the the straight community are putting that put on the gay community again. Chanel. Stop being rude. People listening to the podcast, stop it.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Yeah, sorry. It's very distracting. It is very distracting.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

And it's basically mainly from the gay community. So having people that sort of like, you know, a lot of trends are started with the gay community.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Exactly, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

But again, you know, you talk you're talking about men's coding wear, you know. I mean, so sort of sort of things that people are wearing, fashionized things these days, that are basically set by the gay community. Again, people out there that are bold enough to sort of like take on a new item, clothing, or accessory. So, what Dave's talking about, mate. Chanel.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

What Dave's talking about when he talks about queer coding menswear is talking about analysing how straight men are adopting the queer code aesthetics, such as painted nails, shear shear shirts, and so like the miss shirts. Um I've never really thought about borders. I've never really got that. So the feminine the feminine hide the feminine feminine masculine borders are getting blurry. Um, and it's not just by us queer community, our queer community, it's actually the straight community are actually now blurring.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

So answer me this, Matt, because you're probably more into the fashion side of things than I am.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

I definitely am way more fashionable than you. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Um but look, I mean, I don't really understand the whole painted nail things. I don't get what it's all about. Can you explain to me what it is?

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Yes, slash no. I think it's a freedom of whatever the hell you want to do, why not do it?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Yeah, but what I thought different colours indicated things.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

So no, so there is there is a movement, and and there is a movement um that it basically indicates that you are um supporting um different cook no different causes. So whether it be um I know a friend of mine, um Kellyanny, Lenny, her husband, he's worn a painted nail for quite some time and it's to support um abuse for women. No, uh children child abuse, basically. Not to support child abuse, to support to to be an advocate for child abuse, basically. Advocate for? Um like for Yeah, uh highlighting Highlighting that he is a supporter of the need to change the need to change the the laws and so he doesn't he doesn't support. Nobody supports it condemns it, but like that basically letting people know silently without having a conversation that I'm here for you.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

Um that if you need to talk to someone, I'm but is there uh is there a sheet out there that people can identify from a coat side of things?

SPEAKER_00 16:20

I don't I don't know. We know what I'm seeing how.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

I see people with different coloured nails, different coloured some have thumbnails, some have all the fingers, some have it on one hand. I mean I've even seen Chris Hemsworth, he had like black painted nails on one hand. I mean again, I know he's got young daughters and stuff like that. Is it a case that dads allow their daughters to get it?

SPEAKER_00 16:36

That's the thing is a lot a lot of it's 2026 and a lot of dads with young daughters and stuff like that. Dad, they want to paint dad's nails, and it's cool that dad says, Yeah, cool, let's go it, let's just have fun, like you know, because it should just be fun. Fashion should be fun. Huh? What's it mean? It doesn't have to mean anything.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

Well I think of course it should be fun.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Yeah, correct, Carl, yeah. And it doesn't have to mean anything in particular, so it can just be for fun, and just for the fun of it, because you're doing something with your daughter or or your son, or like if your son wants to paint his own.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

People like Harry Styles have put a lot of spin on a lot of the.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Well he definitely does, but he blurs the lines between um feminine and masculine as from a from a hasn't he just recently just come out as no, no, no, that's that's in everyone's fantasies.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

No, but I thought you said that the uh the No I think he just doesn't give a fuck. No, but it's good, but I thought you said that he was.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

No, he hasn't he definitely hasn't said that he's gay um or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

I think he's pretty much in the in the in the camp of So what other things have we got then that are in the sort of like the cultural change that people can sort of like link, you know, the gay community to straight communities, sort of like fashions and stuff like that. I mean, trends and stuff like that, and and stuff like that, what else have we got? Do you reckon that could be sort of linked to that, Matt?

SPEAKER_00 17:52

I'm not sure. No, I mean as in like from a fashion.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

No, not from fashion, but just like things like TV shows, movies and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Oh well I guess look, I guess a lot of uh a lot of TV shows, I guess you heated rivalries and stuff like that, um, a lot of people are obsessed, like it obviously it's a bit of obsession with the queer community, but I think people in 2026 uh not so hung up on at New York. There would have been no there would have been a time where a show like Heater Rivalry, right, which was very queer in your face, confronting um well, is that like it would be like that, but it and then a lot of people, especially straight men, wouldn't have watched that in the past, right? They would have gone, I'm not watching that with it. So you reckon there's a lot of straight men watching this? Whereas now, a lot of people, like your son's watched it, right? I know him and his friends have all watched it, and they're like, it's because we had conversations with them. And again, to this point in time, your son hasn't come out, um, so I don't think he's gay, but hey, um, who knows? Who cares? Exactly. But what I'm saying is, I mean, you know, what's the difference between like queer as folk back in the day when we were the thing is the queer as folk, it was only our gays what the gays watching it, right? Did you reckon? 100%, 100%. There's no straight man. You ask any straight man of our age bracket.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

What about sex in the city and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Sex in the City again, right? I mean, straight men watching that. Yeah, there would be, but that was that that wasn't targeted as a gay film. No, but what's still queer as folk was definitely a queer series, right? And now in 2026, even if it is targeted as a queer series, RuPaul's Drag Race. Do you know how many straight men watched RuPaul's Drag Race? Not me. Thousands. You're not straight, dickhead. I know about some of the things. You still don't watch it. You still do. You have watched it a couple of times. And they're forced to once by you. You're forced to once, and then the other times you've just sat there actively as an active participant.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Oh, look at this little thing coming past. Sorry. Someone's got like a big Lego fucking Ferris wheel going past. It's pretty cool, as.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

I can't see what you're seeing. Oh wow, it's okay. That is bizarre. It's like a it's like a Micano set.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Micano set, yeah. Yeah, he's got he's like a built a big Ferris wheel out of it and he's pushing it against yeah, it looks amazing. Wow that's really cool. Really cool. Russ would love that. He would. Um, but yeah. Um yeah, so um so too. Well do you think that pornography, you know, having lapses in sort of like regulations on TV shows now where you know content are showing both male and female genitalia now is like the norm because you've got people you've got place things like dated naked and stuff like that, and or naked dating, should I say, and also things like that, Love Island or whatever they're called, yeah, where they go off and everybody's pretty much naked. I don't think there's sort of like this day and age people are judging people anymore, are they?

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Well, it's it it's it's less less than.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

But do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Is now is that is that sort of pushing boundaries, allowing the gay community to have these shows that portray sort of like I just think it's the attitudes of people because people don't really give a fuck what your sexuality is anymore or who you sleep with, right? Or a lot of people don't. There are obviously still a lot of um um redneck figots that that very much do. I was just looking at a post earlier today where um somebody had put up as a joke, and it wasn't meant to be a joke, saying in support of all the LGBT community on the Central Coast, we're gonna paint this building as a rainbow. Um works will start as of this date, and the absolute amount of people that have gone, This is beyond a joke, this is a fucking this is ridiculous, blah blah blah blah blah. And it was just like bro, you could see it was an AI generated thing that clearly was a joke. Um, it wasn't meant to be anything that was like, but it was it was just really thrashing like every all the all the redneck homophobes that were part of this. So baiting them basically. Yeah, it was it was rate a rage bait, basically. Um since they were and they responded. They responded r exactly how they were meant to. Um and they were raging. They were raging and showing the ugliest side of themselves as well.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

So it was just like you know, what about things such as you know, too? You talked about AI and stuff like that. What about you know the digital world and AI and and all these things now that are like dating apps, algorithms, and you know, the the changing face of like society in terms of like you know, going from just having like normal dating apps now to having gay apps and stuff like that, you know?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Well, they've you've had gay dating apps for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Well we've got this this thing called sniffies, haven't we?

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Yeah, correct.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

So sniffies is like being used by a lot of straight men.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Yeah, 100%, but that's always been the case. So you've had well, you've had squirt around for a million years. No, I don't like squirt. I know you don't like squirt, but it's been around for a million years, so you're definitely one of the very few because a lot of people really like it. Um and it basically you go and you get find out where somebody's dick is to be sucked and stuff like that. So um, like it's the like the straight guys have actually been using that for a long time. So um, and I know this for a fact because I've flown quite a few of them on there, on there as well. So it's it's not really anything too different in 2026 when it comes to that. It's just that more accessibility to these apps um means that more straight guys can get out there and get a BJ, um, which I'm all for. Um, but yeah, um, but I guess also if we're looking 2026 versus sort of previous times and what's changing in the culture, is that um there are a lot more honest and upfront people actually talking about their relationships and what is not considered necessarily a normal relationship and what has been part of the commun the LGBTQ community, more the gays and the lesbians, because they don't do this kind of stuff, to my knowledge. Um I'm sure there must be Yeah, probably there must be, but they don't talk about it. But I think with the gay really relationships in the gay world is very common. Oh, absolutely. It's almost if you're not open, are you even in a relationship? Right. Um kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Well, I honestly do think in a lot of cases it does save relationships anyway. I think if you if you love somebody but you're not having the intimacy that you want, or one pair, one partner doesn't give the other one and wants, then allowing that trust, uh-uh, allowing that trust between two people and your trust in the other person to go off and engage in intimate contact with another person, just on the intimacy only, not not loving or you know, having that sort of like this is where it falls. This is what I'm saying, you know, you've got to have a lot of trust, and it has to be consensual, but also has to be agreed upon that you know there's boundaries and everything else.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

But when we're talking queer quick culture and and and how it's seeping into like the the heterosexual world is. But do you think I don't think it works?

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Why you know having open relationships? Uh look, it's not for me. No, because I I just think the temptation if you if you haven't got a strong enough relationship, the temptation will always be that someone will come along, shows you the affection, shows you the things you need, or you enjoy the intimacy so much that you you know your heart starts saying, Well, you know, this is not for me for the relationship.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

It's not for me. Um and but and you know what? If you can do it and it works for you, that's fantastic. But there has to be some very clear boundaries.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

But what I'm saying is the gay community in particular, or the LGBTQ community, or the gays, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

It's not really the lesbians, like I said, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

I suppose, but uh, you know, you still have open relationships in any any form, yeah. But I I don't know, I mean, I'm not involved with that, so I've never had an open relationship and never need to have.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

That's what I'm saying. It is actually getting more and more prevalent with the heterosexual world where they're actually exploring these things, they're exploring polygamy, um, and and the multiple partners couple and things like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Talking talking of this sort of thing, do you think that the gay community are are now sort of like showing more intimacy in public in terms of like holding hands and stuff like that? Because of obviously the lapsing, you know, social um social awareness of like being being able to be in a loving relationship, have being married and stuff like that now is legalized. Do you still feel that the gay community is still repressed in terms of showing affection in public like they are in in the straight community? Oh look. I know I would be put off by it because I would still be worried about it.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Yeah, but I'm not a PDA kind of guy anyway. Like I don't show public affection. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

But if you wanted to hold hands or you wanted to, you know, just put your arm around somebody.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Don't make me sick. Oh, you're not gonna be able to do that. It's filthy.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

But you hold hands when you're having fucking mass sex.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

I hold don't hold hands, I hold cocks. You know, and I hold them with my mouth. You do. Um, but I think PDAs in general are filthy and horrible, and not for me. Um, and I think it's gross um and it's yucky, so I don't think being gay or straight has anything to do with that. I think again, the world doesn't care so much anymore, I think. So I think the world's caring less and less, and the more that the world's caring less and less, people that want to display are are now okay with it. Like we we've seen a couple of guys walking up the call so before, yeah, and one sort of grabbed the other one on the bum and sort of gave me a bit of a squeeze and all that kind of stuff. That's fine. Nobody even better than another. Yeah, it's another couple hold hands, and one of them was really hot too, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Look, I mean, I'm all for it. At the end of the day, I wouldn't do it myself publicly because I like I said, I don't know. It's not who you are.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

No, it's got nothing to do with the body.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

But I don't look at people and judge people because they're they're two the same sex. I I I look at it and think, well, you know, okay, you you know you feel comfortable enough to be able to do that, so good on you.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

But I think like if I see a guy and a girl kissing on the side of the road, I think it's gross. Um so really I don't think it's a good thing. Yeah, it's gross, I think it's horrible.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

If it's if it's in your face, if it's just like you know, if they stop in the you can see they're genuinely having a loving moment.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

If they're having a moment and then that's fine, if it's just like full-on just non-stop, I just think it's gross. I totally agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

But yeah. So do you think that um turn to turn turning off this? Do you think that the the gay community has like increased the emphasis on kinks and stuff like that in the straight world, like fantasies and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Um I think I think that kinks have been around for a way longer than the gay community. I just think again, us bringing it to the forefront, right? Um, have allowed permissions and maybe people that wouldn't necessarily be interested prior have gone, oh maybe I would be interested and stuff like that, and because it's very much so you do think more is a generational thing change.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

It's a generational change rather than uh than uh than a a correlation between the gay community emphasising that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Correct, correct, correct. That's normal. Um it's normal. I've turned it off every single time. I know you're a good boy sometimes, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Um yeah, okay. Um but that that's pretty much all I can think of on those sort of things. I mean, I don't want to touch on politics because I know your take on that. I don't do that. I mean, I would love to talk about politics sometimes, but I can when you know I value your I value your um your respect from that. And I don't push my agenda anyway anyway.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Let's move straight on from it then, hey? And what are you gonna talk about next time? Come on, big boy. Um I I think we're pretty much done for for today's podcast. There's not really much to chat about today, Dave.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Okay, well we're gonna we're heading off to have a look at this this other beach.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

We're gonna go to another beach with the girls and check that out just to check it out.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

I mean, may jump online later on to tell you about that as well.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

But yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

But look, at the end of the day, I mean, I would say to everybody when you're feeling a little bit run down, a little bit stressed, and a little bit sort of like needing to have a break, do these sort of things if it's a day out or even a weekend away. And it's a lot of places in your local area. I'm sure that you know, if you just venture out and find, you know, a bit of peace in nature, then it's definitely something that is worth doing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Yep, yep. Alright, bye for now. Bye. That's a wrap from us. We've been your fully grown homo's, and we look forward to opening your mind, your ears, and your curiosities. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe and share our podcast with your curious friends. You can contact us at fully grown homo's podcast at gmail.com or any of our socials by the same name, Fully Grown Homeers Podcast.