Fully Grown Homos Podcast
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Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Christmas, Community, And Courage
A summer holiday can hold both shock and sparkle. We start by unpacking the terror attack at Bondi—what we saw unfold in real time, why rushed reporting amplified confusion, and how hate harms whole communities. We share where our solidarity sits, how to talk about religion without tarring entire cultures, and the very real mental health ripples that follow mass trauma. From first responders and lifesavers to brave bystanders, we honour the people who ran toward danger and remind listeners that counselling and crisis lines are there even if you only witnessed events on a screen.
Then we let some light in. Think ham raffles, family lunches in relentless heat, and the joy of giving small but thoughtful gifts to the club staff who look after us all year. We swap practical LGBTQ+ holiday ideas for every vibe: guilt‑free sleep‑ins, a one‑dish masterpiece, queer karaoke line‑ups, Dragmas outfits, rooftop meetups, and community lunches that welcome anyone spending the day solo. Volunteering, writing cards to queer elders, and choosing spaces that feel safe and inclusive turn a lonely day into a connected one. If you’re budgeting, we’ve got you—camp doesn’t have to be costly.
We close with pet peeves that double as survival tips: don’t panic buy, don’t abuse retail staff, and don’t pretend a one‑day closure is an apocalypse. If a store makes you queue twice, give feedback. If venues hike prices, expect value, not opportunism. And shopping centres, open the car park gates the week of Christmas and New Year; people shouldn’t pay to sit in exit traffic. Through it all, the thread is simple—hold space for grief, make a little room for glitter, and treat strangers like neighbours.
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Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our adventures as fully grown himos navigating today's world full of inquisitive friends' questions about gay life and the unexplored activities of a life lived as fully grown homos.
SPEAKER_01:We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex, sexuality, and topics we don't even know yet. As we want your input into what you want to hear, nothing is off limit, so email us on the fully grown homospodcast at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_02:Or message any of our socials, Fully Grown Homos Podcast. Merry Christmas, Dave.
SPEAKER_01:Merry Christmas, Matt.
SPEAKER_02:And Merry Christmas to all our listeners around the world, too. Yeah, to everyone around the world if you've actually had Christmas or if you haven't had Christmas yet. Which I'm pretty sure we're pretty much the first ones apart from New Zealand. Yeah, we're we're the first ones to have Christmas. Suck it, bitches.
SPEAKER_01:New Zealand first, technically.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay, whatever. We're among the first to have Christmas. We are among the first, all right. And we are gonna we're recording this today, and we're gonna try and upload it today as well. See how we go.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, yeah, we're gonna we'll keep it short because we are heading off in about 40 minutes to our friends. Dick and Fanny's for Christmas Eve, right there for lunch.
SPEAKER_02:Christmas lunch and that, but we'll just do a little bit of a um a a bit of a debrief around Christmas and what we've had how we've had it and well have a bit of a chit-chat about what was happened in the news and everything else and yeah, so so so before we get into our chit-chat and stuff, let's just touch on I guess and we thought it was important to actually touch on um a bit of news that's happened here in Australia, which is um which is basically a terror attack on Bondi Beach, um, which was basically a terror, terror mass shooting attempt and horrific bombing at the public Honeukka gathering in Bondi. And that happened on the 14th of December, so just over a week ago, basically, 10 days ago now, or just 11 days ago now. Um pretty horrific um sighting, wasn't it? We were we'd been out during the day with friends, with Dick and Fanny actually, and um with Brian.
SPEAKER_01:So it was probably not late at night, it was probably about half past six. Yeah, um, we were watching TV, weren't we?
SPEAKER_02:Watching Tipping Point and the Celebrity Edition, and um I was looking on Facebook because I can multitask and um and cannot. Um I was looking on Facebook and I seen that there was this incident unfolding at Bondo Beach, and I went, what the fuck? Right, but there's no more details, wasn't it? So there was no details, right? It was just like everyone get out of the area immediately.
SPEAKER_01:Um I think within five minutes of you saying that to me, it flashed up on the news, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it flashed up on the news, and then next minute they were basically at their final round of tipping point, which I still don't know who won. No um and they interrupted with news, with breaking news. But it was live news, wasn't it? Live news, and it continued from there until three days later. So basically three days, four days, a week later, and it was horrific. But it was really sad to watch. It was because it was very confusing because we're not used to that kind of thing here in Australia, no, we're definitely not used to terror attacks at all.
SPEAKER_01:I've like we've had some horrific ones in the past, but nothing to this standard or level of level of intensity and hatred, and being broadcast live as well was even more intimidating because you're watching exactly what was happening unfolding live. Well, and because people have social media now, it was not going to be a case where you were gonna miss out on anything, you know.
SPEAKER_02:You you couldn't, and there was stages there where we thought there was two gunmen, um, then we thought there was three. Yep. Um, we were um were unaware if there was more. Um, whether there was um and I don't want to say basically bombs or uh UID IU uh IUDs. IUDs, yeah. Um, I don't like there was um there was bombs there, homemade bombs basically, yep. Um, were found. There were six ended up being six homemade bombs, four failed to detonate and two unused at at Discovery. Um, so there was like it was full on. It could have been massively carnage everywhere. It was carnage, it was carnage, it was horrific. It was horrific and it was sad. And I guess like we questioned whether we even talk about it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Now I felt it was important to talk on because obviously we stand with the victims. And the reason we stand with the victim is because it was a religious-based, hate-based, or there was two individuals that based it on religion. Not all religion is hate-based, okay. Um, most religions are based in love, right? Um but it was hate-based, and as a LGBT community, LGBTQ plus community, we have suffered some hate against us in the past. And we still do. So we do feel for the victims of this, yep. Um and their families, and their families, and their friends, and anyone that's actually witnessed this.
SPEAKER_01:Well, their culture full stop.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So, like this is like these are people that were targeted for the wrong reasons. For the wrong for nobody should be targeted, but just for reasons that that were beyond their control, beyond themselves.
SPEAKER_01:They didn't there was no justification.
SPEAKER_02:They didn't they didn't go in and say, we're gonna pick a fight with you, let's pick a fight back, or anything like that. Yeah, um, I'm not about to get on here and blame a government or blame anyone because again, I'm not smart enough or I have not well read enough to actually know who's responsible for this. I know who's responsible. It's the two men that actually decide they were gonna take a gun um to a what was a festival of light fundamentally.
SPEAKER_01:Guns, not guns.
SPEAKER_02:Guns, guns, multiple guns, three.
SPEAKER_01:So they had the intention, they knew what they were doing, they were premeditated to carry out the act they did. Yeah. Um, and obviously they're not alone in what they've done because there are other organizations. They're not alone in their thoughts, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just radicalization and you know, and hate, and you know, and it's just ideology that is basically brainwashing people to carry out atrocities around the world, the weather wherever they are. Yeah. And you know, unfortunately, just happened to be on our back door. Um, you know, the consequences were horrific.
SPEAKER_02:They were horrific, and as I said, it ended up being um 16 people dead in total, 15, 15 civilians, and one of the perpetrators was killed by the police. Yep. Um, 42 plus people injured, including several suspects, several suspects and police officers as well.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Um, the age range, which is really sad, it ranged from 10 years old, um, little Matilda, um, up to 87 years old.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so it was it was it was horrifying. Horrifying.
SPEAKER_01:There was also 50 people that were injured as well, and some of them are still critical in hospital. Some of them still um and I can only hope and pray that they pull through. Yeah, uh, but it's not just you know the injured and the deceased, it's everybody that was present there. You know, you've got to try and explain to children, to people that were why this happened. Well, people are gonna have mass, mass, mass, um, mass um PTSD breakdown for everything. So we need to obviously mention about the mental health and hopefully people will lifeline are there. I mean, there's a lot of organisations out there that are there set up to help people, irrespective of what circumstances are. If you do struggle with mental health or you are struggling with like anxiety, understanding why. Yeah, I mean, and even this thing, not you being present, but you having witnessed it could trigger off things in your head. So please don't feel alone and get yourself treated.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I know my business that I work for, which is one of the major retailers, they offered support for our teams straight away. Like straight away. They what got on. We have an app called Sonda that's available to our our whole um store teams and our whole business. Um, our CEO sent out a message via our internal channels, and she was visually visibly shaken. She you could tell that there'd been tears in her eyes. Um, our former CEO um was a resident of the Bondi area. Um, so he is connected with that community in a in a way. And look, everyone is everyone's been if you've been to Australia, you've been to Bondi. Yeah, right. It's it's one of those things. I don't think it's our best beach, but it's it's our most iconic beach.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's the most respected and well-known beach in the world in the world. Nobody knows, nobody doesn't know where it is. Like, look, you've also got to commend the people such as the first responders, the lifesavers, everybody that was there putting their life on the line, and and they were reacting immensely so quickly, you know what I mean. Look, I mean they were they were even the dogs and stuff were guarding over people that were being shot, you know, they were putting themselves in target range and like the civilians that tried to stop them as they were getting arriving there.
SPEAKER_02:Look, unfortunately, they both lost their lives. Yeah, um, but then I guess the guy that did try and tackle, and he's been heroed the the biggest hero through it all, and um he he tackled one of the gunmen and ripped a gun out of his hand basically.
SPEAKER_01:It's amazing what people do in the hour of like immediate you know, when you when you're confronted like that, you mean you're a target in in any way, anyway. Yeah, but the bravery that people do things from just instinct and think, you know, okay, I'm gonna give it a go without the thought of like the ramifications of being shot themselves.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we we asked each other, and like a few of us all sat around at different stages and have talked through this because it's important to have friends to talk through when there's things like this happen. Um, but we sat down and we said, What would you do in that situation? And look, I said I'd probably knowing myself and my level of bravado, yeah, right, like and and how how stupid I am at times. Well, it's not stupid, isn't it? But it's a bonds thing, it's a flight or flight. Yeah. I think I would dive into because I dive in to help anyone. You know, you know, if if somebody's fallen, like that woman that fell down at the club the other week, yeah, I couldn't fucking lift her by myself, but I was straight over there and tried to help her and tried to make sure she was comfortable because I do know first aid and I know how to treat people.
SPEAKER_01:But it's a proven fact that you know when you are confronted or you're in a situation, the level of of strength and stuff that people develop in that split second is immense. Yeah, you you know, for some reason you you can do things that you you could not normally do, you know. Yeah, um, and like you said, I mean, when you like look at the situation and you think, oh, I'm gonna have a go, I'm gonna have a go, and you just do it out of instinct, just automatically. Um, you don't realise the dangers around you and everything else, but you have a go. Yeah, and that's exactly what that guy did. He did. Um, but the sad thing is, I mean, because of the way the laws are, you know, he could have quite easily shot that that guy and saved a few more lives because he went then back onto the bridge and carried on shooting with another weapon until the police shot him dead. Yeah. But had he been able to think logically and say, I'm gonna shoot him, not kill him, but shoot him in the leg or something like that, you know. But again, this is like you're then tried. I've never operated a gun, so I wouldn't know what to do either. No, exactly right. So what I'm saying is, I mean, the natural instinct would be to shoot at that person, to kill them, not to kill them, but to maim them. I wouldn't kill them. Yeah, um, but then you're then tried in a court of law for using a weapon on someone else. Yeah, correct. And it's it's a sad thing, you know. You've got to think out, you know, is it worth be putting myself on the line and then being charged with murder? And I don't think I would want to kill anybody anyway.
SPEAKER_02:No, look, I I I don't think so either. But look, like I said, the whole thing itself went for I think it was between six and eleven minutes, um, roughly six to eleven minutes.
SPEAKER_01:But it seemed to be forever, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It felt like forever.
SPEAKER_01:And there was just it was just oh, it would just be so much confusion and panic. And also the you know, the um the media, the journalists reporting live, they didn't have a clue what was going on. So there was obviously a lot of misconceptions and a lot of confusion happening, what they were telling us as well. But you know, and again, this is what happens until you look into the actual circumstances and you've actually got a full picture, it's so hard to judge what's going on, you know what I mean? Yeah, because you just don't know, do you?
SPEAKER_02:You know, but look, I think I think I think the message that we wanted to get out of this is um be kind, yeah, um, be kind to people. Um, just because you're not um familiar with whether it be a certain race, a certain nationality, a certain culture, yeah, right? Um, don't believe everything you read. Don't judge. Take people at face value of how you're treated, right? Um, because I don't feel like I've ever been treated badly by um any one of the the supposed cultures that are supposed to be doing the negative works from here.
SPEAKER_01:Um and the sad thing is I don't know whether any of those people that were involved, as in the perpetrators, if what would happen if one of their relatives was on the other side, as in like you know, they were they were a supporter or they were a Jewish member or you know, a member of a group that they didn't like, would they then choose to kill them as well? I don't think they would. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean who knows? It's it's it's a tricky situation, but it's a brainwashing.
SPEAKER_02:Go forward into this season, I guess, with this whole season with love, with care, um, and um support for each other.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, so we need to move on because I don't want to be negative about this, but our love and and our love and support, and everything goes out to all the families, the people, and everybody around the world that is affected by these sort of like targeting attacks. Target attacks because our our our community has suffered through a lot of them as well, and it still will continue, and it will continue as well.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, um now on to something a bit lighter. Yeah, let's talk Christmas. Now, as a family, we had ours last week, we had our whole family thing, didn't we, Dave? And um we did, and my family, and which you obviously came along to.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Um, now I was tasked this year with buying the ham and doing the nibbles. Well, winning the ham. Well, yeah, winning the ham because the hammer. The ham was delicious last year, right, that we won from Panthers, right? It was from Pendle Hill Meats.
SPEAKER_01:Um, our local club, if you don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and the the ham itself was from Pendle Hill Meats, and um it was bloody delicious. And um, if you are in Sydney, that's where you need to get your ham from because they were fantastic. And this year we went and we tried three times, like we won one on the first week, and that was the one for for the family day, right? Ideally, we wanted to win two more. You love your ham. Because I love ham. I wanted one for my fridge, one potentially for Dave's fridge, right? And that's all we needed, right? That was fine, right? So we went the first week, got that one ham and nothing else, pretty much. Very expensive day. Very expensive day. So a lot of all our friends who didn't win either. Right. No, the second week was the more expensive day because there was like literally nine of us at our table, right? Everyone had spent a minimum of a 50 bucks, right, on ham on raffle tickets. I might have spent 110, all right, on the second week. Um, and we're like literally out of nine of us, right, we won two hams. Like we didn't win any, myself or yourself, right? Didn't win any that week at all or anything at all. So it was like, you're fucking kidding me. What do we gotta do? Who do we have to fucking suck off to get a ham in this place?
SPEAKER_01:And it's bizarre because there's some people in the club that were winning like eight or nine hams.
SPEAKER_02:They were winning eight or nine hams. I'm sitting there going, your numbers are on, obviously, which really pisses me off. We were sitting there going, fucking just give me one ham, you cockhead. Um but the reality is we could have gone and brought them from the supermarket, 14, 12 hams each, but yeah. Um, but I wanted those particular hams, and um and it tastes better when you win it. Um, I don't know why.
SPEAKER_01:Because it's more expensive, that's why you save the moment more.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and um so week three we went and I got drawn out fairly early, and I won a hundred dollar gift card, and Russ, one of our friends, he actually won a ham.
SPEAKER_01:And he said I think I won first. I think you won first. Because it was an 8295 and I won a ham first.
SPEAKER_02:Dave won a ham first, right? Then um Russ won one, and I won a hundred dollar gift card, and Russ is sitting there and said, I'll sell you the ham. And I was quite tempted at that stage to sell the ham for a hundred dollar gift card. I had one anyway, Dave had one anyway. Um, but I was tempted, but then all of a sudden, whammo, I got one. So it was yay, I won a ham and my hundred dollar gift card, which was really cool. And then the very last ham drawn, I won another one. Yeah, so we ended up with three hams. So we ended up with four in total for the season and a hundred dollar gift card. Still didn't meet last year, we had like nine last year, didn't we? Yeah, last year we had like nine or ten. It was so many.
SPEAKER_01:We gave a few away, didn't we?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, last year we did. Last year we did. This year we haven't given any away because you don't need to because everybody has got everything. Everyone has got them already, so yeah, but yeah. Um, but that was pretty much uh that that sort of side of the uh yep. So we went to the family Christmas thing, had a fun day there.
SPEAKER_01:It was, it's fucking hot, it was fucking hot, it was like a thousand degrees so warm um to the point where people weren't even eating because it was just too hot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the grazing table. Although, as per standard, we may have gone a little bit over from catering perspective. We don't do that. Maybe all right, it was a few.
SPEAKER_01:You accused me normally, but you are just as bad.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I am just as bad. I am aware of this. I still I still operate on my fat person's stomach. But um it's all about sharing, and that's what we love doing. Yeah, and look, if I spend a couple hundred bucks on a Christmas food, it makes you feel good. And it looked good, yeah. Right? It looked the table looked fucking spectacular. Exactly right. Look, and that was obviously helped to one of my Christmas presents from a previous year from my sister, which is she made this beautiful chopping board, like a tattoo board. So good, and it's fucking awesome, and it just is a great centrepiece for any of those sort of events and stuff like that. Sister's very talented. She is very talented. So we did the family Christmas, that was a fun day. Um, then we've done a couple of Christmas things at the club. Yeah, you did a bit of catering on Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01:We just took nibbles and stuff for a fun night, didn't we? The raffle and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, we made up little hampers for little chocolate hampers, and they were they were a big hit, especially the little bowls. Yeah, people love those, yeah, Dave.
SPEAKER_01:So, yeah, little Santa bowls. But again, it's all about giving, and you know, it's just seeing people's faces like and them knowing that you respect them and you know you value them. You valued what they put. The service that they give you every year and all that kind of stuff. I would say probably about 95% of the staff members at the local club, I would say, are fantastic. Yeah, I mean, there's always going to be some people that I don't like, as you know what I'm not gonna mention names. What do you mean, Dougie? No, yeah. But look, I mean, just not even. Yeah, there's a couple actually, yeah. But yeah, uh, just look, I mean, they're just people that have got no value to me in my life. Yeah, they're a big country. They just basically wind me up the wrong way. So, anyway, but saying that it's not the time of year to be negative, I suppose. But assholes, yeah. Um, yeah, even though we will do our pet papers later up. Yeah, so what we decided to do was we're just thinking about things that people in the gay community, or should I say the LGBTQ plus community, um, can do over the Christmas holidays, stroke, new year holidays as well. Yeah, so we did a bit of um chat GDP yeah, giving to I asked for singles mainly.
SPEAKER_02:And I had a go at Matt. Not everyone's single, and I went, Well, I am, so fuck everyone else, um, pretty much. So, yeah. Um, so I I basically started mine, and it basically started with uh sleep in with zero guilt, right? Which is because we actually did the family thing last week, right? I was able to do that. Now my sleep in, given that my normal wake-up time is 4 30 in the morning, yeah. So I woke up at about seven this morning, six thirty-seven. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:So that is an extra. But you always went to bed. I mean, I went to bed about an hour and a half after you. I don't know. I mean notice. No, I know, because I I felt I did fall asleep on the sofa for about half an hour. But I was not tired when you went to bed. No. And you know, that's the good thing about it is the fact that you know I know that I don't have to go to bed when you go to bed, like vice versa as well. Yeah, correct. But we were watching that heater rivalry.
SPEAKER_02:If you've never watched it, that's worth watching.
SPEAKER_01:Oof.
SPEAKER_02:It's hot. It is very good. It's fucking hot. I just wish they'd show you. I wish they were more duty, yeah. Yeah. I wish they'd show more dick. Or some dick. Some dick, yeah. Funny scene. Sexy hot ass. And that's fucking that. And making out. But the the Russian guy that you first said, oh, he's not very attractive. He's getting more and more and more attractive. Yeah, he's still my least favourite.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, his his body's fucking his nipples are amazing. He's got but what I'm saying, in terms of like who I would naturally be drawn to, it wouldn't be him first.
SPEAKER_02:No, but I'd I'd be naturally. Yeah, the barista is and and his guy here's fucking the other hockey player.
SPEAKER_01:Because they're all it's all about it's all about ice hockey players. Yeah. And you know, it's it's about the um no spoilers, but none of them can come out because of the where the war the sport is evolved around masculinity and you know they wouldn't tolerate homosexuality, etc. etc. As it is in normal.
SPEAKER_02:But we're only up to episode five. I think we're still one episode left. I think we have to watch episode five again because we didn't. No, we watched five. Did we? Yes, we watched five properly. Right, okay, second time. And then I turned it okay, I turned it off to watch six because you were busy on your phone. Yes, I was. And I said, You're gonna watch the show or you're gonna watch your phone? And um, you went, I'm watching the show, and I went, Well, what happened? And you didn't tell me because you were watching. You had no idea, don't listen to you. No idea. Um, that's that's Matt's bill. This is why we're both single because we're an old married couple anyway. Um exactly. But anyway, so tell you a solo self-care day. So whether that means like to put on a face mask, do a body scrub, just jerk off 12 times a day, whatever you fucking want. A solo self-care day.
SPEAKER_01:Get your Sandra outfit on and play ho ho ho.
SPEAKER_02:Gay Christmas, but make it fun. Cook one signature dish instead of a whole meal. Can you imagine me doing that? I can't imagine you doing it. You don't cook a single dish.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I haven't got any apparatus at the moment. You know, I'm like, I love cooking normally. You went to the floor.
SPEAKER_02:You cooked fucking you cooked pasta right on Monday night or one over Tuesday night for 14 people.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it keeps in the fridge.
SPEAKER_02:Not for seven days. Yes, it does. It easy. We'll try it. Yeah, we've we've eaten it once. Yeah, but we've had everything, so we've been out and about. We've been out. That's what I said. Don't need to cook it. Freeze it, it'd be fine. I need another freezer, Dave, because I should have bought myself Christmas, another freezer. Well, we'll go and look from the next January sales. No, we get a bigger one. I'm not gonna go, I don't need it. No, because then I'm just gonna fill that one up as well. Yay! Yay, yay. Anyway, Christmas cocktail hour for one. Well, that you can get behind, right? It would be hard though, being on your own.
SPEAKER_01:Unless you unless you love your own company and you are. I do. No, you don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I do love my own company. Norway. Very well, I don't get a choice. Oh, fuck you. He invites me over there and says I'll go home. No, I no, he I do tell him I don't tell him to go, but he knows when it's time to go. Um, but yeah. Um, but yeah, no, um, like yeah, yeah, so like I mean there's lots and lots and lots, and you can join an LB LGBTQ plus Christmas meetup online. And I think Meetup, the actual app, has lots of things you can actually.
SPEAKER_01:Well, there's that place and signal what we want to go to. Remember the one I told you about? It's on that rooftop area.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That meetup group, yes. You need to go and check that out. And and I do know, I do know that they do it every single year, right? And that's our friends at um Carol's in the main. No, there's the sauna. They used to do it in Sydney's at what was it, 357, but now at um sauna X by 357. They now do a Christmas lunch. Do they? Yeah, and they do it, they've been doing it for so since they opened basically at Christmas. They have like a Christmas lunch for all the patrons, all the people that want to go and have a Christmas lunch, and then you can go and get your entree and your dessert in the glory holes. So you're not being single then, so you're not being single, but it but it's it's a really good community event that's that's that happens every year and has always happened, and it's happened, so yeah, forever and eternity. Yeah, so you got some stuff there for for solo for doubles and all that kind of stuff. You have for doubles? What do you mean? You got some oh no, you sent it to me as well, didn't you? Sorry, here it is, here it is.
SPEAKER_01:I thought you were carrying on with your bit, sorry.
SPEAKER_02:No, I've done my bit. Really?
SPEAKER_01:Everything.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm not I'm not sitting online by line. Well, it can be people can write poems and write songs that we were doing this morning. We were creating songs this morning, weren't we? Yeah, we were having fun. Oh, Miami's finally responded to me. Yay! Merry Christmas uh to the most amazing friend a girl could have. Oh, that's sweet. Thank you, Miami. You're right, and vice versa. Only girl. Yeah, well, I'm a girl. I'm a boy. No, she's no that she's the girl, right? And she definitely is the girl, so yeah. Definitely very much so. Yep, very much so. Yeah, so um what else do we got?
SPEAKER_01:Christmas relationships uh yeah. So on my list has got things such as friends must and queer must dinner theme outfits. So, you know, if you're gonna have like friends over, why not take it a little bit up a up a up a bit of um what you call it, Christmas spirit and a bit of fun and have like a drag theme. Oh, theme up your day.
SPEAKER_02:You would love that, wouldn't you? Well, we kind of did this morning. We kind of put a bit of theme together. We've our because we bought ourselves. Well Justin sent some and Justin a um a pair of Grinch underwear with a Grinch beard and hat. And we we'd gone over to um Brittany and Justin's for dinner, for a Christmas dinner. I like it or catch it, catch up before Christmas Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And um, we bought uh bought um Justin the Undies and the and the Grinch beard and hat all in one. And we told him we wanted to see it on the line. Did you see it on Christmas Day? Because he's got a rocking body, hasn't he? He's got a great body. Um and he didn't even need Chat GBT to enhance his. No, exactly. So so he he took uh so Brittany took some photos of him and sent him over. Um and I said, Alright, I said I need to see um see your sack. And she said, got the wrong colour undies for that then. I went and she said they were all shriveled up, dead. Um we did we did it a bit more meat more sort of. Meat meat in the front. I wanted to see, I wanted to see your Santa sack. Yeah, we wanted to see these bum being exposed. Yeah, um but um but yeah, and so we decided we'd do some photos of that as well. Yeah, we're not body fit. No, I'm not. Neither of us are fit at the moment. But ChatGBT helped us with that. Um Chat GBT asked to make us more muscular, and so it did. It made me look fucking hot. I'm gonna I'm gonna have I'm look, I already said I'm getting back to the gym this year, next year, whatever it is. Um but after seeing those photos on me, I'm gonna go hardcore. I'm gonna be buff as fuck. And I'll do your everything. I'm gonna do it all. You're gonna do it. I'm gonna go back into I might even get back into CrossFit um see how I go there. Then he'll have no life. I just need time. I just need time to do CrossFit because that's the thing, it does take a look at it.
SPEAKER_01:He'll be coming back from the CV where he works after 12 hours of work, and then he'll be like, fuck this, I can't be bothered.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably pretty much. So I'll probably leave the same life, but I'll just use chat chat G G O B T chat GPT to enhance myself. That's a way easier situation.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, so that's one thing.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, and I did that with Dave as well, and he's sitting there going, Oh, he wants to bone himself now as well with his big carrot and that. But I'll use those photos as our cover photo for today.
SPEAKER_01:So things that they can do with this themed, because we did go off track a little bit. Yeah, are obviously outfits, Dragmus, Christmas, and the ugly pride sweater show. Yep, yeah. So that's quite cool. And you don't have to do it in you know the LGBT side of things for our straight listeners as well. It's all about fun. Um, it says Orphan Christmas. He says for those away from family, um, avoiding, and my son is now finding me from Japan.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, is he? So I'm gonna put pause in.
SPEAKER_01:Two seconds because it is Christmas. There you go. So that was a call for your son from from Tokyo. No, he's in Kawasaki or someone he said. Somewhere, somewhere where they were expecting snow, but it didn't happen. So they're all upset that it's not snowing. Yeah, so it didn't happen. Didn't know. Well, he's got about five days left before he's due back home. He's been there for two weeks already, so yeah, sounds like he's had fun. Sounds like he's having fun. Yep. Um, but yeah, so you know, hopefully they'll go out tonight all together or whatever they're gonna do and have fun because he didn't seem like any plan of action today.
SPEAKER_02:No plan, different generation. Like we have to have things planned six months in advance, right? And they're just like, um, haven't made any plans yet. Yeah, haven't made any plans yet. And I'm sitting there going, Fuck what are you doing for dinner? I don't know. I don't know yet. I haven't made any plans for Christmas.
SPEAKER_01:And what made me laugh is when he said all earlier, he said I didn't phone you earlier because you're two hours in front, and I said you're gonna be fine. You would have been asleep. But he said he said all my friends were on their phone talking to their family, and he said, Oh, I thought I'd better just phone you now. And I'm like, Whoa. So there you go. Anyway, it is what it is, isn't it? Anyway, so we'll we'll continue on. Um, so you got to So we were talking about things you can do as as as yeah, there's one that's called Potluck with a twist. It says everyone brings additions by by diva or a decade or a flag colour. That's pretty cool. Well, that sounds like fun, it does.
SPEAKER_02:It sounds like fun on any day. It does, exactly. So we we might like we've got I've got these saved into my notes anyway. So we'll obviously potentially look at that. So you're gonna have queer karaoke night where you've only got Mariah, Kylie, um, Madonna, George Michael, um, and they're the only ones that like in Donna Summer and things like that that you're allowed to sing, right? Which would be fun if you know the words. No, or that's what karaoke is is Dave. The words come up on the screen. Yeah, karaoke, the words come up on the screen. Well, that's new to me. You've been to karaoke a hundred times with me.
SPEAKER_01:Nah.
SPEAKER_02:You know that the words come up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Talking of which, we went to karaoke with your nieces.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, we did, we did. Well, we budged the water. We went by ourselves, we went to Squirters.
SPEAKER_01:Um with Dick and Fanny. Yep. Because we were going to the Christmas in the domain where we were cancelled because the transport issue was a nightmare.
SPEAKER_02:Was a nightmare.
SPEAKER_01:I know we're divulging again, but that's the reason why we met it. But karaoke, yes, go on.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so we went to karaoke and that was fun. But karaoke, yeah, he has our words on the screen. That's the fun of it. All right. So yeah, lots and lots of stuff you can do. Um, this also suggests um give backs. So volunteer with shelters and services and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:That's a good idea, you know, to actually go down and and spend a little bit of time if you got it to help the community. Yeah, if you got it, you know, because you're you're you're taking up your own time as well.
SPEAKER_02:But this is the thing is that a lot of people do a lot of things to help community to do all that kind of stuff, but they end up leaving their own battery dry, right? And then yeah, so make sure that you've recharged yourself, yes, because yourself is more important because then you are there for others.
SPEAKER_01:What's this this thing that says white cards for LGBTQ plus elders who may be isolated? What's that mean?
SPEAKER_02:Uh right cards safe.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, right card, sorry. I thought why'd it say white? I thought I had to look at it. It's a white thing that's gotta be white. Why it gotta be white? Why can't? I thought that's a new thing for me. Okay, yeah, that's nice. Right cards, which is really really cute if you know. Obviously, chilling is the main thing for the day.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, or like skill, detox, whatever. Um, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then go and have a drink.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, then have a and then there's New Year's, there's all the same stuff, the beach, the rooftop, the parking lot.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, look, I mean, I I I think I prefer New Year over Christmas. I do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But New Year's a bit of fun for us because and and this year's definitely gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_01:We've got um Well, this is the first time you're off for the whole of it, as well.
SPEAKER_02:No, I didn't have the whole day off the year.
SPEAKER_01:No, last year we were away on the cruise, we came back, and then you still had to work in between. I can't remember. You did because you were starting your new job, remember, and then you were finished.
SPEAKER_02:But this year we're gonna have a bit of fun at Panthers. Um, some something different, something we do every yeah. And then um, and then we are going to wear these silly hats. Um, but we'll post photos of that. It's gonna be fun. We'll talk about New Year's and New Year's time.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, indeed. Yeah, but we're definitely doing some beach days. We haven't done it yet.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, we are definitely we were thinking about it.
SPEAKER_01:We must remind ourselves to to message Rob and Aaron as well. Yeah, and wish them happy. Um, wish them happy Christmas. Yeah, happy Christmas, okay. Definitely, definitely, definitely. I've already made it all the others, Michael and all the other people as well, that we haven't sent any message to yet. I mean, that's the sad thing about it because you get so engrossed in doing what you're doing, you forget that you've got to send texts to everybody, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Yep, yep, yep. So, yeah, so that's pretty much it for Christmas, yeah, and all the things that you can do. So we wish you all happy Christmas anyway, wherever you are. Happy Christmas, happy holidays, happy however you choose to celebrate, celebrate your way. Um, but with love and peace. And now we're gonna do this.
SPEAKER_00:They're grumpy, they're gay, they've got something to say. From traffic cues to crooked cues, they'll pitch it all the way. Game and Max Pet peeves!
SPEAKER_02:All right, Dave, you cranky old man. I know, I feel like the grinch, but I'm not. I know. Well, we we've got to do our pet peeves because this was something that was suggested um a long time ago by Denny Boy.
SPEAKER_01:I know, right, and thank you. And we continued it on. I know, right. But I'm a bit peeved, as you know. Peeved. Peeved. Yeah. Go cranky, I mean, tell me what the reason being is it's Christmas time, people are meant to be celebrating. Obviously, there's a situation where people can't afford to do a lot at the moment, you know. You know, we're in this cost of living crisis and all that kind of thing. Right, and it is real. It is real, um, it is real. And um, even though sometimes you look at people you think what the fuck.
SPEAKER_02:It is real for some people. There is the the amount of people that I see at the club when we go there just filing hundreds through the pokies, hitting ten dollars a hit. You do question it though. Do not do not come at me with Walworth's putting the prices up if you can throw ten dollars a hit in a poker machine. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:But talking of the club and other places of like, you know, people where they go and support and patrons and you know, yeah. Why is it that you can buy a meal or have a go to a buffet and it would cost you on average about 35-40 bucks per head, right? Yeah, but suddenly because it's New Year or Christmas time, they charge you$185 per person, even a child that is like over the age of three years of age, and they'll charge you like$65 for those those people.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't get like friends of ours, they said they used to they frequently go to the club every year for Christmas and celebrate and stuff like that, and it's normally around$110,$120 a year, which is a hike in itself, right? But this year, I think even at our local place, it's kind of$185 a person, and I think it was$85 for a child or$65 for a child, which is exorbitant. Like, I get they've got to pay public holiday rates, all that kind of stuff, right? But it is just that's just too much. It's way too much. Oh my god, Dave. What are they trying to chew on? Ice. Oh ice, okay, they're finally eating their piece of ice. Okay, that's okay. Um, yeah, um what are you what are you?
SPEAKER_01:No, that was just Max trying to call me. Oh, carry on. I'm just texting it, so you carry on doing what you're doing. Okay. I listening.
SPEAKER_02:So I can pause again. No, no, no. Um but yeah, so um, so yeah, the going to the club overpriced is fucking stupid. Alright. Now, I have got a few peppies and I will just go through mine and it's I've written them down, and what the fuck do you think shoppers setting? Oh, shoppers getting angry at retailers, right? Around yesterday, the day before. Angry about parking situations, angry in general about everything, right? When you have chosen to fucking wait till the last minute to get whatever it is that you need to get. Now there are some things like fresh veg and all that kind of stuff that you need to get on the day or the day before, I get it, right? But there are things that you could have been buying all year long. It would have been better for your budget, better for everything if you had a plan, right? Um so don't start getting angry when people are like not responding to you within seconds because it just it does my head in the amount of abuse that retail workers cop at this time of the year is just stupid. You went to one of the shops the other day. I did, okay. So I went to Kmart now, but I didn't abuse anyone. No, we want to say this, but you can see the frustration. I can see the frustration, but like I said, Kmart in Australia, right? And it's the only shop I know that does it, but they have their checkouts in the middle of the store, right? And then you've got to walk to the exit and show your receipt again to get out, right? Um there was a queue a million miles to pay for things, and then there was another queue to show you a receipt to get out. Move your fucking checkouts to the front of the store, you stupid cunts, and just have people paying as they leave. It's really that simple, yeah. Right? Why are you making people double weight? Right. It's adding to the frustration of Christmas time because you're only it's not like you've got 75 manned checkouts in the middle. They're all self-serve registers, and you've only ever got one person on a manned register anyway.
SPEAKER_01:But we went the other day and you looked through the door, I think it was Big W you went to see, and you saw the queue and you said, Fuck this, I'm not even going to show you. Like I had some items in my hand. No, we didn't even make it through, we didn't even go through. You could see the line of people queuing up in your streets. Yeah, but even this.
SPEAKER_02:Even in Big W, we went in there, I picked up a pair of shorts, a couple of other things, and we went to the water checkouts, and I went, absolutely not. Absolutely not. This is self-service. This is self-serve, right? Um, and again, the space was huge at this store. Um, so they had enough room for another 10-15 self-serves. Now, self-serves are all usually FOS or whatever it is, so you're basically paying one person just to monitor them. Um, but I don't get why there was like so few and why the line was so long. I just I just can't see. Whoever spatially planned that space have not planned for any peaks whatsoever. Right? It was just it was just crap. It really, really, really grinded my gears. Anyway, what's your next one, Dave?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, just following on for that, I was gonna go to something different, but I'll follow on for that one because it makes more sense. It's like people panic buying. Why do people have to panic by and buy food, drink, and everything else when they know the shops are gonna be open tomorrow? I mean, it's like one fucking day these days. I mean, gone long gone are the days where you know, when I was a kid and our parents had to buy things because the shops were closed for two weeks. Yeah, and your genuine boxing day sales were genuine boxing day sales. Yeah, same with New Year's sales these days. Everything is just all about money, retail, and well, I think Black Friday went for about three weeks this week. Well, I know, you know, Cyber Monday was like fucking two years. But what I'm saying is, I mean, there isn't really any sales anymore because sales are on all year round. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter, you know. That that shop in Penrith is it sales every single fucking day.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I've been here 20 years, and the same shop has still got the same sales on. 75% I'm thinking, what the fuck is this about?
SPEAKER_02:You know, yeah, it's not a sale anymore, it's just your price, mate.
SPEAKER_01:But I just don't understand now because there's no need to panic by.
SPEAKER_02:I mean by but it's real. Like the thing is people pile up so much stuff and so much gets wasted, and and so much gets wasted, which I guess leads on to the other point that we were talking about as well, which is like wasting food around this time of year. It just and and yes, we all want to make sure that our table looks good.
SPEAKER_01:And we're all guilty of it. I mean, I've wasted look at when we went to your dad's place. I mean, there was a lot of food wasted because we weren't hungry enough to eat it because it was the weather was like the problem.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, but but but look, and and I guess my one leads on, and it's Complaining about stores being closed for one day. Like it just does my head. You know, I sit there and I think, like, as somebody that works in retail and manages a retail store, um, having it closed for one day, you should be able to cope. Right? You really should be able to cope. Or if you can't, at least get your friends to all come in and buy lots more so we can actually man a property so we can keep it open. Because the one day that we are open, like tomorrow for me, is going to be a really shit day in sales. Yep. Right. So I've got to man it and I've got to spend quite a bit of money to man my store tomorrow, right? Whereas if I just shut that for the another day, that's two days closed, right? Gives people time off as well, which they deserve. Like we work friggin' hard. Yeah, exactly. Especially at this time of the year when people are getting aggressive and abusive.
SPEAKER_01:I know a lot of your workforce in your particular store are of a different culture, so they don't necessarily celebrate Christmas. But it's still time for families to have time together, it's time for them to celebrate. They should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without having to put themselves in every single day, working hard, yeah, just to be there and nobody's there to appreciate it, you know. But yeah, um, but that also leads me on to one of my final ones. All right, hit me with your final one, it's just this time of year because of everybody's just so busy, the the roads and the parking become astronomically busy. I get so stressed, I really do. I mean, even if I need to go for the basic stuff like medication or something like that, the effort involved in getting to somewhere that you would normally take about five or ten minutes to get takes you over an hour and a half. Yeah, and then you get bombarded with so many people, and then you get that frustration. You like you said, you could give up.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think and I think it's just like we we were saying the other day, right, that at this time of year, would it really kill like you've been Mr. Shopping Centre managers, right? You've been making money all fucking year. I know, right? Right, tons of it, right? Um, would it kill you to open the gates for Christmas week? Well, it should be it should be a two-week period.
SPEAKER_01:It should be just open the gates for Christmas and New Year, right? Same with hospitals, everywhere else, public transport. It should be a free ride for everybody just to have okay, thank you for your support. Oh shit, mommy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, silly girl. Um, she's alright. Um, but like the thing is that yeah, just open the gates, let people out. They've just spent thousands and thousands of dollars in your shopping centre, absolutely right. Um, supporting your retailers, doing all that kind of stuff, especially like Penrith was crazy the other day. Well, I think everywhere is. It took us longer to get out than it did to shop, and that's the other thing, as well, with the parking as well.
SPEAKER_01:You can pay your parking, and it will take you half an hour to get out. Look, it did take us literally half an hour to get to the boom gate. Yep, yep. And by that time, people that have free parking now were having having to start. But yeah, but anyway, that's my pet peeve. So that's our pet peeve. Happy Christmas. Happy Christmas. Enjoy the rest of your day and the week off, whatever you've got. Hopefully, you'll be with friends and family. And if you're not, then hopefully you'll you'll be safe and you enjoy yourself anyway. Lots of watching movies and stuff like that, you know.
SPEAKER_02:All right, well, I've been Matt.
SPEAKER_01:And I've been Dave, and yeah, Merry Christmas.
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