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Balls and Blokes: When Footy Meets Fabulous
The sporting world just got a glittery glow-up thanks to Mitch Brown, former West Coast Eagle and Essendon bomber, who recently made history as the first openly bisexual male player in AFL's 129-year existence. That's right – after more than a century of sweaty men chasing balls around ovals, someone has finally acknowledged they might like both kinds of sausage rolls!
Brown's announcement at age 31, post-career, speaks volumes about the challenges LGBTQ+ individuals still face in traditionally masculine sporting environments. His courage follows recent homophobic slurs in the AFL, proving there's still crucial work to be done. We dive deep into why this visibility matters – not just for current athletes, but for queer youth who deserve to see themselves represented in every arena of life.
We explore the trailblazers who paved the way for Brown's announcement, from rugby league legend Ian Roberts (who Dave had a massive crush on back in the day!) to Olympic gold medallist Matthew Mitcham and soccer player Josh Cavallo. Each faced unique challenges, yet persevered to live authentically despite the toxic masculinity permeating men's sports. Interestingly, women's sports seem light-years ahead in acceptance – Sam Kerr and her partner celebrate openly without drama, begging the question: why the double standard?
The episode takes a hilarious turn as we share our weekend adventures at the Rusty Penny microbrewery (that alcoholic creaming soda was dangerously delicious) and Miami's mischievous hijacking of Matt's Grinder account – let's just say red panties and questionable messages were involved! Between sips of craft beer and belly laughs, we wonder: when will sports culture finally embrace that sexuality has nothing to do with athletic ability? Join us for this thought-provoking conversation about breaking barriers, living authentically, and why the most vocal homophobes might just be secretly checking out Sniffles.
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Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our adventures as fully grown homos navigating today's world full of inquisitive, friends' questions about gay life and the unexplored activities of a life lived as fully grown homos.
Speaker 2:We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics we don't even know yet, as we want your input into what you want to hear. Nothing is off limits limits, so email us on the fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom or message any of our socials fullygrownhomospodcast. Hey Dave, welcome, matt. Welcome, it's just a tourist, I know that's alright, that's okay, back to being normal.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I don't ever want to be normal. That's a shout out for Miami Loves the word normal. She does. She panics so much because she said the word normal and she thought she was going to get us cancelled for saying the word normal or is normal? Who the fuck knows?
Speaker 2:I'm not normal.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely not normal, I know right. I'm definitely definitely definitely not normal, dave, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Anyway, how's your weaving?
Speaker 1:Well, hang on. Before I go into how our week's been, I've got to do this. Oh honey, guess who's back? Dave and Matt with a disco smack Serving laughs. They spill the tea. The rap of the week. With some attitude, please.
Speaker 2:I'm growing and feeling fine. Snap those fingers, sip that wine, get your fix.
Speaker 1:No need to nap, it's Dave and Matt, with the weekly rap, my week has been pretty good, pretty busy yeah, you're always busy.
Speaker 2:Fuckin' hell, you never stop.
Speaker 1:When can I retire? Well, when you find your sugar daddy, you keep telling me that I keep trying and I had Powerball. I won twice on two tickets last week, congratulations. $11.95 on each ticket. Yo, that's what I got. Can't retire on $24. I won twice on two tickets last week, congratulations. $11.95 on each ticket. Yo, that's what I got. Can't retire on $24.
Speaker 2:I can't even get fucking two numbers.
Speaker 1:Can't even replay one line with 24 numbers. I'll take my money but won't give it back. No, they never do, the fucking assholes.
Speaker 2:Fucking assholes.
Speaker 1:So my week's been good. I've done lots of work, had a Like I'd done lots of work, had a pretty good week at work, done some creative stuff at work, as you do, which was good. Which was good? Is that the gayness inside you? Yeah, let my homo out, yay. Let my fully grown out, Get your glittery balls out. Yep, pretty much pretty much. But then on Saturday night we caught up with. We sent a message to Dick and Fanny and asked them whether they'd like to catch up as well.
Speaker 2:This is a joint thing, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Because we hadn't said yeah yeah, yeah, but we hadn't sort of Seen them for a while, seen them for ages, and we miss them.
Speaker 2:And it's been Fanny's birthday.
Speaker 1:And this is why Brittany's scared and we hadn't seen them for ages. So we organised to catch up with them and there's a place in Penrith called the Rusty Penny which is the microbrewery that's a pretty cool name.
Speaker 2:It's a cool name, isn't it?
Speaker 1:It's a great setup.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, I was impressed. I've heard about it and I've heard that people have been there and they've told me it's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we went and we experienced it and then, consequently, so what is it? It's a microbrewery, exactly yeah. So the thing is that they do, obviously, beers and stuff like that and all other little things like that. They did an alcoholic creaming soda, oh my God, it was so easy to drink. Well, they did quite a few things. They do a pub squash type thing.
Speaker 2:They do that coffee and coconut one.
Speaker 1:Coffee one.
Speaker 2:Coconut beer yeah, and they use real coffee in it.
Speaker 1:Real coffee, yeah, and they basically put that in, and there's a lot of them are three-day brewing process and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I think the highest volume one we had was 12.5% alcohol, yeah, something like that, yeah, which is fucking a lot, that's high for a beer.
Speaker 1:It is yeah. But it was all tasty, it all was really really well.
Speaker 2:Like it was good beer. The one that I liked was the mango one. Yeah, the mango one was really nice.
Speaker 1:Look, I can't say that it was one that I didn't like, but I didn't try the ones that I didn't think I'd like. I didn't try the dark beer or something like that, or a beer person in general, but I quite enjoyed most of them. Oh, the pale ale was great, I loved them. Yeah, you really enjoyed those. You said they were nice and fruity and Dick was loving it. He was loving them, he was loving them and the food was sensational.
Speaker 2:Oh, fantastic.
Speaker 1:But Dick had sort of mentioned he was chatting to another friend of ours that used to record back when I was singing and stuff like that when you say record that, record back when I was singing and stuff like that. He used to record music for me and stuff like that. He's a full-time musician and he's awesome. John Romeo, check him out. He's fantastic.
Speaker 2:He's done a lot of work with a lot of famous people, hasn't he? Oh, yeah, yeah, he's worked with Jessica Mowboy.
Speaker 1:He's worked with Melissa Dekouts.
Speaker 2:Quite a few of the voice winners, as well, yeah, yeah, I've seen that on his socials.
Speaker 1:On his bios and all that. He's done a lot of work with a lot of people.
Speaker 2:He's very talented, isn't he? He's very, very, very very very cool and he's very easy on the eyes.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's a good-looking rooster.
Speaker 2:He's almost like Latin American-looking, isn't he? No, he's Italian.
Speaker 1:Well, he's Australian. I haven't seen it. Love to Send me dick pics, john, but no, he's like and he's a beautiful human.
Speaker 2:God, he's a great human. That's the first time I met him. He was very welcoming, very warm, yeah, and we met his girlfriend as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we didn't know that they were going to be there until, like, basically, dick sent a message out to him and said hey, like you know, what are you doing tonight? Do you want to catch up? Blah, blah, blah and he said, oh, I can't, I'm doing a gig tonight. And he says, oh, where are you playing? Because then we possibly would have thought about maybe changing venues. And he said I'm playing at the Rusty Penny. So it was like there's no way in the world that could have happened. Really good to catch up with him in between sets.
Speaker 2:We also had Miami come over as well. We had Miami, she came over as well.
Speaker 1:And then I also ran into some other friends there you did Lenny and Kel Kelly and Lenny, who I met at my niece's wedding a long time, whenever she got married a long time ago now in Fiji and me and Lenny clicked. He was like my straight husband and I was his gay husband and we wandered over the Proclaimers 500 Miles is what I said it was called. And he said no, it's not. And he said it's called I'm Gonna Be. And I went no, it's called 500 Miles. I said that's what it's called. He said it's called 500 miles. I said this. I said that's what it's called. He said it's I'm gonna be. And we went back and forth and back and forth and fucking hell, can you believe he was right her than me, but I was still right because it's I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1:And then it's in brackets, got 500 miles so we're technically both right we collaborated, but then we've been mates since um, and again I don't see them, but I went to his 40th, I think it was, and stuff like that. So we've known each other for quite some time.
Speaker 2:And they were there with the birthday celebration, weren't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were. They were there with the 21st and Kelly looked amazing as always, so I saw you whoring up having photographs, I was like who the fuck's Matt with? Yeah, yeah. And then I took her out and they were like, oh, found the glamour, and there I was, and then Dick and Franny said oh, someone he knows.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, and I was like, okay, yeah, they were at my 50th, so a couple of years ago now as well, so I have known them for quite some time. It's quite weird Everywhere you go oh, have you taken that cruise from Tipping Point yet? And I went like, literally, I filmed that over a year ago.
Speaker 2:Two years, two years ago now, almost yeah.
Speaker 1:I said like we're well and truly back from the cruise and everything like that. Do you drive another one? Yeah, definitely due for another one, definitely so due for another holiday, but yeah, so how's your week been, dave? Good, busy as well, I actually got my driveway laid.
Speaker 2:Yay the weather has finally given in and the sunshine's been beautiful. It's been quite a glorious weekend hasn't it?
Speaker 1:It's been beautiful. Find more weather.
Speaker 2:So I got the driveway poured on Wednesday. Yep, we had a little bit of rain during the day, so he's got a little bit of specks like little marks on the asphalt surface. But that's fine, it doesn't matter. But it's done and dried. I've got to keep on watering it a little bit to stop the concrete from breaking.
Speaker 2:Water the concrete, because it expands. It's like anything If you dry it too quickly, then it's subjected to breakage because it has to cure at a normal time. It's like alcohol you have to let it settle for a while for it to be the best. It can be okay, because concrete is an element where it can dry and it strengthens, it gets harder, it strengthens as it cures more, a bit like your cock, yeah, um, so give it time and it'll be the hardest it'll ever be. Right, okay, but if you you keep on letting it warm then cold, warm then cold, then the contraction will cause it naturally to become unstable inside and it can break all over the place.
Speaker 2:So my builder came along and he cut the concrete up to allow for the expansion gaps to occur so we can control whether cracking is going to happen if it does crack. And yeah, yeah, he just said look, you know, for the next two weeks, please water it morning and night, just to allow the concrete to absorb the moisture so it can cure at a slower pace. Okay, it's like a cake, I suppose you know you make a cake and you leave. It's all like rest for a while and anything in life, you know, I mean, the longer you leave things, the better it is is yeah, to some degree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not winning a lottery, because that's going to happen every night.
Speaker 1:I need that to happen, and sooner. I need that to happen. I know so some funny things happened on Saturday night as well.
Speaker 2:It did. Now we can talk about that a bit later on. I think. We're going to discuss okay. Okay, all right, we'll talk about that a little bit, yeah so on today's episode.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, which is going to be a little bit different for us, because I'm not really a sporty kind of person, no right, but here's a little jingle that I actually wrote about it. I'm not going to sing it. It says like it says you're listening to the fully grown homos podcast, where footy meets fabulous and your local tradie might be on grinder and that's the part I like I know I love it, I'm going to tradie you would love it but I don't have, I don't use grinder I know, but I used to I.
Speaker 2:That's where I think you should download sniffles well, I had a look, I didn't download it but download it right, but have a look on sniffles, because that's what everyone's using, I know.
Speaker 1:But why sniffles? Because you don't pay on sniffles, because that's what everyone's using, I know. But why sniffles? Because you don't pay on sniffles. No, but what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying is what is sniffle? What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1:When you mentioned to me, I thought what the fuck are you talking about? I?
Speaker 2:don't know what it means. I checked it out. I checked it out.
Speaker 1:I know lots of dick guys, yeah, a lot of married guys.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of incognito people on there, and this is where we're going with this segment right at this minute.
Speaker 1:Well, we're not going incognito.
Speaker 2:No, but we're talking about people that have been incognito.
Speaker 1:Have been incognito, but they're not. So we're talking about the magical world, the glittery gay underworld of news nonsense and nipple piercings.
Speaker 2:We're Glittery gay underworld of news nonsense and nipple piercings. Right, we're talking about you might be because I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm just talking about the hot guys now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a very poignant subject we're talking about, so I think we're going to start kicking things off with a massive shout out to someone who just gave us the entire AFL a big glow up, matt, it's.
Speaker 1:Mitch Bloody Brown. Yeah, the entire AFL. A big glow up. Matt, it's Mitch Bloody Brown, yeah.
Speaker 2:Fantastic Mitch Brown. So this is where our segments go in. So basically, mitch Brown, I don't know if anybody knows him, he was an AFL footy.
Speaker 1:So he was. He was so Mitch Brown, an ex-Wex Coast Eagle Essendon bomber and now an official bi-con. Right, I didn't know, that was a term but he's an official bi-com. He's come out as the first openly bisexual male player in that AFL history. That's 129 years of sweaty men chasing balls, but not one of them has said I might like both kinds of sausage rolls until now. So that's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I know right. Could you imagine the locker room, the tension in there, where they say, oi, mitch passes the footy and then another person says, oi, the football not your number. But hey, I'd rather, you gave me his number. Looking at him, he's a fucking hot dude?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was. Have you checked him out?
Speaker 2:He's a very good-looking man.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's quite a masculine sport, right? Most sports are, unfortunately, well, yeah, they are, and it's blokey bloke space where queer players just didn't feel safe to be themselves, right? So so what? Why it matters? Why it matters? So let's break it down a little bit. And it's because visibility in men's sport right for our lgbtq community yeah, and you've also got the youth now the queer youth.
Speaker 2:they see the future in all spaces because of the way they are now, the way the generation is, it's so different. So hopefully this is going to allow them to expand on their own perspective of the way sports should be played.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now he didn't come out at his peak when he was 20 years old, right? He didn't come out then right, he came out 31 years post his career on his terms, so that's pretty powerful stuff I know 31 years. Now you've got to. What are we doing in that sports space to actually have him wait 31 years to come out right?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say it's 31 years. Well, he's 31 years old.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he did it at 31. So, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2:So 11 years past his career? Yeah, yeah, post-career, yeah.
Speaker 1:But you're right though. Yeah, because he'd be 51 now. Then that would not make sense, because he doesn't look 51. I think you got the facts wrong, because I googled him and he's hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's very hot, but again, I mean this whole process of people having to be coming out to be to be, and another reason why he did it as well was I don't know if you heard about the two homophobic slurs that happened in the AFL this last couple of weeks. No, I didn't. So basically what happened was they'd had two people recently in the afl for homophobic slurs okay, and the afl fair play to them and the nrl and all the other governing bodies that are doing sport in this country, and hopefully other countries as well, are clamping down on this homophobic attitude. Right, yeah, they want people to be inclusive. They know that the actual importance of people moving forward, being themselves and being a part of the community and being a football player, it doesn't't matter who you are, what nationality, what sexuality you are.
Speaker 2:If you can play the fucking game well and you're good at it, then you should be included and there should be no negative bias against it, and that's why I think the AFL are doing it.
Speaker 1:And you shouldn't need to worry about, like I said, your sexuality. Like I think I was talking to somebody and I heard it and it was oh, I can't remember where I heard it, but they were saying that there was four of these guys, right, all these straight guys that live together and they talk about sucking dick more than any other gay man.
Speaker 1:And they were saying how much would it take for you to like what's a dollar figure it would take for you to suck a dick? And one of the guys apparently turned around and said a million bucks and I'd do it. And then the other guy said mate, who do you think is paying you a million dollars to suck a dick? Number one you've never sucked a dick before, so you're never going to be good at it, right? And who do you think's going to pay somebody to do it for the first time?
Speaker 1:because no one's paying, like when you've got thousands and thousands and millions of gay guys out there that love sucking dick. Right, I'm one of them, you're definitely one of them, and we do it for free, exactly.
Speaker 2:But if you listen to Mitch's statement on the news, when he came out he was very good about what he was doing. He knew that he needed to be done, right? Yep, and he was saying that he remembers comments in the showers about the guy saying, oh, I could never stand next to a fucking gay boy in a fucking shower because I'd fucking kill him. Basically, you know, and I was thinking, and he must have been petrified, yeah, because you know it's like me joining the military, right, you know I wanted. I chose that job over being myself, yeah, and that's the choice I chose. And he probably chose the same because he knew he was a fucking good footballer, right, yeah, oh yeah, an afl player and basically, you know he had every right to be part of that team and he did well, yeah, and he was well respected and he still is. You know, the general public have given him so much support about, you know him coming out, which again shows to me that times are changing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are they are I think the biggest people sorry, the biggest people in what the problem is, is the players themselves, because they're too scared to admit that they either are gay or by themselves or can't stand the feeling of being judged by other people, and that's what it boils down to. So they're the biggest people that have got the issue. They need to change the way they are. And you think about it, like I've said always, matt, one in seven people, supposedly, are meant to be gay. It's like anything. You can't have a whole team of players that not a single person is gay. You can't. It's not, it's not practical, it's just not, you know it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not physically possible and that goes for every industry and look, and we know, we know personally that we've actually sort of and last week's guest was prime example there's a lot of men out there that just aren't comfortable enough to come out right, and while our guest last week, don, said he didn't feel like he was gay, straight or anything in particular right, he still would identify from an outside perspective as a straight man, whereas if it was just okay to be who you want to be, would he be different.
Speaker 1:And he said he couldn't answer that question because obviously that ship sailed Yep. But he said if he had discovered what it was like to be gay with men earlier in his life.
Speaker 2:Well, this is the same with the military, okay. I mean, when I joined the military back in 1989, I mean, there was 96,000 people just in the Air Force alone, right? Just the Air Force, just one group of the armed forces. Okay, and you're telling me that a single person out of 96,000 people was gay. Not a single person. That's obviously not possible.
Speaker 1:And that's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying so when that's obviously and that's what I'm saying so when they changed the rules back in 2003, when it became acceptable to be allowed to be gay after all, these people have protested and been kicked out people went to jail for it, right, yeah, for just doing their job. They were, they were doing their job normally. Someone outed them. They got then sent for a military board and a civilian board and then both got sent to jail because of that reason, for just being gay not for doing anything wrong, not stealing, not doing anything, that reason for just being gay, not for doing anything wrong, not stealing, not doing anything, that was criminal.
Speaker 2:Just for being gay, right? And then suddenly, when they opened up the doors to allow people to be themselves, that's it. Not changed job, not changed anything else about themselves, just say, okay, you're now able to be called gay if you want to be gay. Or date the same sex, and there was hundreds thousands of people that came out, and I'm talking all ranks and all genders, right.
Speaker 1:So what Mitch Brown has done now, he has opened those doors, right. He's opened the doors for ex-players, for coaches or even current players that might want to say me too right, so he's opened that door. So he's actually done a really good thing there.
Speaker 2:The thing is what gets me, though, matt, is there have been players before Mitch that come out there have.
Speaker 1:All right, there have. So we were discussing this earlier as well, and so I went to my favorite source, which is ChatBT at the moment, because I pay for it, so why not utilize it to its full and total?
Speaker 2:to pay for it, so why not utilize it to its full and total? Um, but you're talking about? I'm just going to talk about what you're checking. I'm on the right page, but I'm just going to just mention about not just afl, nrl. You've got things like tennis. You've got players and soccer and stuff like that right in the uk basketball, baseball, anything and there are players that have come out for prior to this and prior to these people we're going to mention as well. And yet did it change the type of sport? No, the sport continued to be the same sport. That person did very well, and most of these people are fucking amazing players in their own right. You know what I mean. And yet, by them, announcing that they're bisexual, lesbian, gay or whatever it might be has had a negative effect on them, because of what reason?
Speaker 1:No, but I'm saying for what reason no, it hasn't. And if you look at the current AFLW, the Women's League, right Now, nobody bats an eyelid if somebody looks like a lesbian or if they assume somebody or if somebody's come out a lesbian. You look at the soccer, the World Cup, sam Kerr and her partner yeah, socceroos. Nobody's batting an eyelid at women's sport, but they're admiring them for doing what they are.
Speaker 2:I mean because they're taking on-.
Speaker 1:Because they're fucking phenomenal sports people.
Speaker 2:Exactly Right. Phenomenal sports people.
Speaker 1:And the whole country got behind them.
Speaker 2:I mean Socceroos, mate 100% and whether or not they're lesbian or not, it doesn't matter. They or not it doesn't matter. They can still fucking play the sport and they play it well, so well.
Speaker 1:So well, so well.
Speaker 2:This is what gets me why there's so much prejudice against people directly.
Speaker 1:In male in men's yeah, and it's male. Homophobia is more male than it is female for sure. And, like I said, we know that a lot of these men that are, I guess, casting the homophobia right, we know a lot of them are actually getting their dick sucked on the side and again, it's them not being able to Because we're the ones sucking their dick.
Speaker 2:Well it's a common knowledge that most I'm not saying all, but most people that are homophobic are people that are latent homosexuals themselves. They can't accept it within themselves, so what?
Speaker 1:do they do? They turn it on everybody else.
Speaker 2:It's horrible, you know, I mean. Yep, they cast hate instead and it's just a negative, bitter way to be, isn't it? You know hate? I've got no time in my life for hate. It's a horrible word. I have no time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so some, some people in the past that have actually come out all right yep, so, most notably, and somebody I definitely had a crush on. So as a young boy working in a supermarket when I was younger, I went to the supermarket because I'm pretty good on a microphone. I've been pretty good on a microphone for a while now.
Speaker 2:And I used to be a spruiker.
Speaker 1:I used to be a professional spruiker back in my day.
Speaker 2:I bet you did.
Speaker 1:Now what a spruiker is for those that don't know. You go into the shopping centers and you'd say, all right, customers, come on down to the front of the store and you'll get your Weet-Bix right now for $1.99. That's all you get. You're going to pay $1.99 and you do this big whole spiel and stuff like that. So anytime that we would open a brand new store, I would get sent as the representative to do the spruiking in his store because I'd get given all these really good price specials and things like that. That would really drag the customers in and then I'd be there to tell them what had happened.
Speaker 1:Occasionally we'd book celebrities and stuff like that. So we booked Ian Roberts and John Jones, right, who were manly players at the time because I don't know where we opened we opened at Engleburn or somewhere, so nowhere even near the fucking water. But we did this promo and these guys came and I was sitting there and I was a little closeted Matt at that time, right and I was frothing. I'm sitting there and going. My God, he's beautiful, because he is a hunk of a man.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure, especially back in his playing heyday.
Speaker 1:He still is now. He definitely still is now. But he really was this giant hunk of a muscular man, very handsome, and I was sitting there throughing and thinking to myself, oh my God, oh my God, that's hot. But he definitely wasn't out at that stage either. And then when I found out later that he'd actually come out, I was thinking, fuck, I could have actually had a chance after all, because he did like little blonde boys and back then I was quite blonde and he actually came out during his he's actually during his playing career yeah, in 1994, you know, yeah or 1995, because mitch is now.
Speaker 2:He's no longer playing the game correct. But again, I mean, you know he's doing it to support the people that are playing now because, going back to the homophobic slurs that were said, I think it just pushed a button with him.
Speaker 1:But but he was the first professional male rugby league player, not just in australia but in the world globally right, to come out during his playing career right, so that's a groundbreaking moment in men's sport right and there's been other ones since in the uk you know you've heard so much vitriol go towards him and things like that over the years. Yeah, but again he's gone on to. He was in Superman, he's gone on to do acting.
Speaker 2:He's done a few movies, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's done quite a bit in the acting space and stuff like that in the arts, but he's gone on to like to.
Speaker 2:I think he did a very dark serial killer one, didn't he? Or he became like a dominant? Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I knew.
Speaker 2:Superman. No, there was like a gay-themed movie he did where he was very dominant. He coerced a guy over and he was like really physically abusing him. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll have to check that out. I'll have to check out his bio.
Speaker 2:But again, it's very well done. I mean he can definitely act.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he can act. He's done quite a bit of stage stuff as well.
Speaker 2:Yep, um, but again like it didn't hurt his career no right, he still played hard and but he was able to be himself, but he was him, yeah right, which was which, as we all know, I mean, when you come out, it's a scary moment and I can't explain my own feelings inside, because I just felt a whole weight lifted off my shoulders. I felt that I could be myself without having to hide. Yeah, but again, I should never have had to go through that, not just anybody else. Okay now, okay, you felt that right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Imagine you've got, say, let's go really extravagant, and you've got like 200 friends and family, right, that you potentially think, oh, I wonder if some of them are going to like me. Some of them aren't going to like me, right, yeah. Now imagine feeling that kind of pressure With the whole nation, with the whole country. I know the whole country, right, that have looked up to you, that are sitting there thinking, right, because, again, if we go like Mitch Brown right now, right, the, if we go like Mitch Brown right now, right, the whole of Melbourne I don't know how many people are in Melbourne, right, but they're all AFL people, right, so they'd all be and whoever supported the Essendon or whatever clubs he was in, right, like, imagine the pressure you would actually feel, thinking, I wonder if people are going to change their perception of me. Should they? They shouldn't, they shouldn me um, should they?
Speaker 2:they shouldn't, they shouldn't have to think we've all said in our own conversations it doesn't matter, if they don't like us, then they can fuck. I can fuck off, because they weren't really into you in the first place. You just go to show you the, their, um, their small-mindedness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's more mindfulness, exactly that's yeah, and they're bigger, yeah, but that's I said. And then, like, you've got people in like matthew mitchum who came out. He was a, a diving Olympic, right, he came out.
Speaker 2:There are some people that I questioned anyway. But again, that's just because I in myself Well, you've got gaydar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, You've got a fairly good gaydar.
Speaker 2:But look I mean it's still hard for them, especially when they're participating in that sport because we know the pressures are put on them.
Speaker 1:He won the gold in 2008 and that's when he came out.
Speaker 2:So he's definitely one of Australia's most openly gay Olympians. He also had Ian Thorpe as well.
Speaker 1:And Thorpe, but Thorpe didn't come out till way after. Yeah, that's what. I'm saying he's not on my list but he didn't come out till way after but everyone kind of knew it was kind of like the worst kept secret. But again.
Speaker 2:I think it's pressure on themselves even more. Yeah, and you think about why suicide is so high male suicide because you're meant to feel masculine 100% and most people are. They don't change their way.
Speaker 1:But being gay doesn't take your masculinity away.
Speaker 2:No Same with Tom Derry. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:However, unfortunately, some people out there think that it does Like some dumbass homophobic, and we were having a conversation earlier about hate and why people are homophobic towards people. And if Superman no, sorry, you said Batman if Batman all of a sudden came out as gay, would people like him less? And I said there would definitely be people that would not go and see another Batman movie because of it.
Speaker 2:And I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I mean, it is absolutely fucking ridiculous If you put a gay actor, an openly gay actor, into a Batman suit now to do a movie. Sadly, it would take a hit Because there's so many homophobic, bigoted people that just don't understand that that actor is fucking a phenomenal actor, regardless of what their gender, what their sexuality is or where they sit on the binary Yep. But it's just so stupid that it should affect anything these days.
Speaker 2:I would love to know and I would say this to every single homophobic person around the world is where it stems from. Where, where does the negativity lie?
Speaker 1:where does the hatred come from. Yeah, well, there's hatred's been around for a long time I know, but what it?
Speaker 2:what I'm saying is why is it targeted just at men and women being in love with? Another person, their own sex, their own gender, yeah um, and it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, they could be the best friends one day. And then suddenly they come out and say look, I've always had these feelings and I'm not towards them, they're not doing anything wrong by them, yep, but they just have the the ability to sit around and say enough's, enough, I can't live my life like this.
Speaker 1:I want to be myself yeah, but then look, you've got, unfortunately and we discussed it with don last week that you've got parents out there that when their children have actually come out, they've liked them less or loved them less or basically cast them aside.
Speaker 2:It's almost like they have this pretentious attitude towards themselves, a selfish attitude, where they have to be liked by everybody else and that is a sacrifice of losing their own children for it. And I think that is pretty fucking sad, it's pretty shit, because they were a child at one point. And were they ever denied their love and affection from their parents? Probably not, probably not. But then they pass that on and you've got to remember that they created that person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hatred's one of those stupid things I like to think is. So there's some other players in that that are out there.
Speaker 2:You've got cricketers as well, you've got a guy called Alex Blackwell.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what cricket is.
Speaker 2:I don't follow cricket either, so I'll just put a narrative here. He came out in 2023. Yep, and he was the first international 2013. 2013, sorry, yep.
Speaker 1:The first international female cricketer. So I apologize. I read that one, alex, sorry, yeah, because it's written down, alex, I was just reading the narrative, so I do apologize.
Speaker 2:So she was the first female cricketer from Australia to come out publicly during her playing career again, and she became a powerful advocate for the LGBTQA plus I inclusion in sport. So good on you, alex. So I do apologize again. I didn't realize that you were females because I don't follow cricket otherwise I would have known.
Speaker 1:And this is another tricky one, um, because this person's name is casey conway and it says that they play rugby league because, after retiring in 2005 due to injury, they came out right, but the background worked to increase visibility of for indigenous l, for Indigenous LGBTQ plus people in sports. Now, I'm not sure whether Casey's a boy or a girl, because that's quite an endogenous name. I think it's probably a male Casey, maybe.
Speaker 2:I think it probably would be yeah, so again Again. I mean, I'm only speculating again.
Speaker 1:And that's two little boxes there, I guess, from the LGBT and Indigenous, from me.
Speaker 2:You know the next one we're going to talk about, dominic Clark, who's a gymnast and trampolining person right Now. For me, gymnastics and that sort of thing always says to me there's a high probability. Yeah, because it's just gender, it's just the type of like sport that it is.
Speaker 1:It's very femin's very, it's like. It's like dance. Yeah, dave assumes that every dancer is gay.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't say every dancer, but it's a high probability there's more likely to be gay people in that sport well, there is, yeah, musical theater, yeah, and, and again it's just it's just a genre of the actual thing. It doesn't mean every person is gay, however, but he came out anyway, gymnastics like, and I'm pretty sure he is actually a local boy, I'm pretty sure he's from the penrith area, okay. Okay, because I'm pretty sure I read up about him. He's a good looking guy as well.
Speaker 1:I'm very talented I'll have to hit him very, very talented guy.
Speaker 2:So dominic clark, yeah, definitely he's um. You know he came out um 2021 during the Tokyo Olympics and he's actively visibly wearing queer athlete during that period. So you know, again, he's an ambassador now for the Pride and for Gymnastics New South Wales and identifies as gay queer. But again, I mean, I admire because he's only a young person and he was at his like prime of his like career path. But again he said to himself I'm not doing this anymore, I'm going to just be myself and it's just. It's great and I think it's such an empowering thing for people to be able to do that because it gives the younger generation, the ones that are pushing forward now with all this non-binary and all these other sort of acceptance or like um well, like, like we said with mitch, it opens doors, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:So, um, it's hard to open a door right, especially if you're the first one out. It really is hard, um, like if that door's been shut for, say, a hundred years and you're the first one to open it. There's a lot of push against that door right and it's really scary to open that door. So we're grateful and I guess our future generations are grateful.
Speaker 2:But the thing is as well I mean, back in the day this is when I was still in the UK there was a guy called Justin Fashanou. John Fashanou and him were both brothers, right, soccer players, yep, very, very high up in their leagues. They played professionally at their, you know, at the top levels. And when justin came out, it got to him to the point where he ended up committing suicide. Okay, and that was. That was very, very sad. I mean he pushed forward because he believed that he wanted to be himself and he did so much for that. But again, at the time, when it was still in the 80s, 90s, you know, I mean it was still frowned upon and everything was still pushed at, the gay community being responsible for AIDS and everything else that we've been prejudiced with and, you know, found to be, you know, the source of everything which we're not. And I think you know he got treated so badly that he ended up killing himself which is sad.
Speaker 1:It is very, very sad, and this is the thing is that this is the next one that I'm going to read. Josh Cavallo Cavallo I think I'd be able to say that with my last name who played soccer. He came out in October 2021, right, first openly gay male athlete playing in a top flight professional soccer league in the world remains a prominent LGBTQ plus member advocate, despite the hostile backlash so hostile backlash this guy's got just for coming out as gay what does it matter?
Speaker 2:it doesn't. Could you imagine Cristiano Ronaldo coming out? How many people would turn around and say, well, I'm not going to support you. I doubt it. You know what I mean, because he's such a high profile.
Speaker 1:This is the thing, like history has told us, like I was talking to you earlier around pop stars that have come out later in life and that, and people that don't come out because they're fearful. If you listen to George Michael, he was all about the ladies. He sort of didn't want to come out, didn't want to come out, didn't want to come out and, yeah, sure, a lot of people probably thought maybe, maybe, maybe, but he wasn't comfortable coming out because then the record label dropped him, then this happened, then that happened. So there's a lot of stuff that actually happened to give them the, I guess the… Catalyst no, not the catalyst to come out, but the belief as to the reassurance as to why they shouldn't come out right, because, unfortunately, like, record labels don't support them. Record labels like a movie, and it's changing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're just as guilty as being homophobic themselves. Yeah, quite correctly.
Speaker 1:Well, self-loathing is what our community do really, really well. We've been taught from early ages that that's wrong and that's not right to be gay and all that kind of stuff, and we're very good at staying in that closet and hiding ourselves because we've done it for so long that we do loathe ourself, and hence why, if we then see something that we don't necessarily assimilate with right, we have a bit of loathing towards right, and we're very good at creating little segments within our community as well. Oh, we do Constantly, yeah.
Speaker 2:Really, really, really good at creating little segments within our community as well. Oh, we do Constantly, yeah.
Speaker 1:Really really really good at it. Because you're not welcoming this part? Because you're not that body shape, you're not welcoming that part because blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:And that's a different topic of conversation again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's completely different.
Speaker 2:But you have to sort of still admire these people that are taking that leap of faith, no matter what point in their life they are, whether it's during, after or before even becoming famous. Yeah, you know what I mean. At the end of the day, they are still being themselves, and that's the main thing about the whole of this conversation.
Speaker 1:So I think, yeah. So that pretty much wraps us up. But again to our most current one, mitch Brown brown. Check him out. I don't think he's got any dick pics, I mean I pray.
Speaker 2:I pray with the generation that are coming through now, the gen zeds and everything else that are so open-minded and so supportive and non-judgmental can embrace what he's doing and allow them to actually take up all these sports and say fuck you, I'm a good player and doesn't matter whether I'm gay, straight, bi, lesbian or whatever it might be. I'm gonna fucking go out there and I'm gonna represent my country or my team and I'm gonna do fucking well, like any other person can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah I think that's exactly the way it should be you know 129 years of history. I I roll on for the day when we have like top people in premierships, like you know, not just in sport, but in like top jobs, such as the prime ministers and stuff like that. Now there have been a few couple of prime ministers in the world that have been there, that have been gay, but again, I advocate for everybody in any position, whether CEOs upwards, to be themselves.
Speaker 1:And I just think it's going to become less and less important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, about your gender it's whether you can do the job or not.
Speaker 1:I mean sexual orientation.
Speaker 2:It's not even going to be a thing and there's so many other people out there that are less ability, have got less ability or less skill sets and they think they're above everybody else. Okay, there's a few people in the nrl I know, and you know who I don't like. There's certain players that I do not like and they're just prima donnas.
Speaker 1:What if he came out as gay? Would you like him all of a sudden?
Speaker 2:Well, no, not at all. I probably think he is gay and good on him if he is the way he comes across. He comes extremely effeminate in the way he is. But again, it's all prima donna. It's all prima donna. It's like me, me, me, yeah, because he is a good player. Well, whether he's a good player or not, I don't think he's. You can't stand him. No, I just don't like it. It's his attitude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a cocky little fucker.
Speaker 2:If you've got a player that plays well, then fucking good on them.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? Yeah, let the game talk, and we're going to. So thanks for chiming in on that. If you have an opinion on being gay in sport or lesbian in sport, hit us up or know anybody that is, or if you know anyone, or if you want to. Actually, if you're a gay or lesbian sports person and you want to come on the podcast, just hit us up on our socials at Fully Grown Homeless Podcast on Instagram, sorry.
Speaker 2:Hit us up in there or our email fullygrownhomepodcast at gmailcom. But it's also important to remember to advocate for Lifeline and other people beyond blue Anybody that is struggling with mental health issues. Then please don't Yep all coming out. Don't take your own life.
Speaker 1:There's people out there that will support you more so than they're not tomorrow's a better day, absolutely you deserve to be here, like everybody else correct, but now we're going to get into something that makes us alright you cranky old bastard, although I was a bit cranky yesterday, wasn't I?
Speaker 1:Traffic cues, the crooked cues. They'll bitch it all away. Gabe and Max Pet Peeves. All right, you cranky old bastard Although I was a bit cranky yesterday, wasn't I? Oh, you were cranky, I was in a mood. I woke up in a mood. I was cranky, hot man, and I left you to it. You did. He said fuck you, you're gone for the day. I'm out, I'm out, and rightfully so. But hit us up with your crankiness today.
Speaker 2:Well, yesterday, when I did leave you, I went off to get my haircut and I called in to Woolies to get some groceries and while I was there you'll never guess what happened, tell me. Well, you know, you go in there and you get the bread segment and you got all the sort of cakes and all the deli stuff and everything else right, you know they have all the fridges set up, open fridges that allow you to have all the cheeses and all the fresh, the fresh cakes and stuff like that yep.
Speaker 2:Well, there was a fucking five, four or five year old, I don't know, same that age, feral child, yeah, feral child, mother and grandmother with them right pushing the, pushing the trolley around. And what was she doing, matt? She was fucking climbing on this fridge. Her feet were inside where the fucking cakes and stuff were and the parents were just fucking ignoring her. She was climbing on it with her feet inside the fridge, yeah, right, and I'm thinking what the fuck?
Speaker 1:yeah, they're gross okay.
Speaker 2:So there's a couple of issues with that kid had fallen, they'd be the fucking first people to go to fucking Woolies or anywhere else they would be and try and sue.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Yep, yeah, correct. And the thing is that we're. This is why I'm such an advocate for a couple of things Children on a leash right I'm a big fan of it. Just ban them from the supermarkets, or ban them from supermarkets or public in general, all right. Or cages Like why can't you?
Speaker 2:just leave them in the car.
Speaker 1:Why can't you?
Speaker 2:leave them in the car you can crack a window.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, I'm not even joking I would leave them at home. I'm sure they can't get into too much trouble by themselves, Like they're only five years old.
Speaker 2:Leave them at home. Well, if they're doing what they're doing in supermarkets, I would only hope to see what they would do at home.
Speaker 1:I'm a fan of this iPad babysitter thing.
Speaker 2:This is why I've never had children. I blame the parents more so because they're the ones that just saw it and just walked off and not chastised their child.
Speaker 1:Watch your kid. And the thing is that when something breaks, when something falls to pieces, then it's like, yeah, it's all of a sudden not their fault, right? And if somebody was up to come up to them and say, well, that's going to cost that business $5,000 to repair, where's the money? They'd go? I don't have the money.
Speaker 2:But also, you know, I could have gone to the manager and said, okay, she just stood in there. Now, what are you going to do about all those fucking products? All those cakes? Yeah, because technically they shouldn't be sold.
Speaker 1:They shouldn't be sold now, exactly Because you've just written off and it's not their fault.
Speaker 2:No, but that woman should be made to pay for all the fucking waste. Yep correct, absolutely. I believe in it, 100% Correct.
Speaker 1:So Anyway what have you got my first one right? I'm just going to clean my throat for this one. I walked past the other day somewhere I can't remember where I was Was.
Speaker 2:I with you.
Speaker 1:No, you weren't, and I seen this person and they were an older person, right.
Speaker 2:When you say old, are you talking older, older.
Speaker 1:No, probably 55, 60. It's RF said no, yeah, okay, maybe older then because she looked older, right, she looked rough as guts as well, oh right, but she was having a big cough, right, a big cough.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And she wasn't covering her mouth Right and I thought to myself that's gross, right. But then in between coughs, right, she farted. No, she had a cigarette. I'm sitting there going. That's not helping your cough love Like that is not helping your cough right, apart from the fact that you're spreading your germs everywhere.
Speaker 2:She says she was coughing and drugging at the same time.
Speaker 1:No, no, she'd cough, right, she'd go have a big cough and chucking up half a lung but then sucking up a durry right in between, she's like having a big puff in between. I'm sitting there and going like that is not helping your cough in any way, shape or form like. So my pet peeve is about coughing and about smoking and coughing so helping yourself. But it's about helping yourself. When you're sick, like seriously, why stick a freaking cigarette in your mouth when you know your?
Speaker 2:freaking throat is already irritated, it's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1:I'm sitting there and thinking to myself you're going to pass this on to everyone because you're not even covering your mouth. And I wanted to yell out cover your mouth. But I didn't, because I was in a public place and she probably would have thrown something at me or hit me and I would have cried, but it just did my head in. I'm sitting there going, oh come on, like how hard is it we're in, like surely everyone learnt through COVID to cover their mouth, right, because it was, and we even learnt how.
Speaker 2:I don't think we've learnt anything from fucking COVID. It was full advertising campaigns. I guarantee you right. If they have another, fucking another pandemic, what will happen again? Toilet rolls will all be fucking stored again. They'll go down the same path. Nothing will change, man. Nothing will change. It's fucking stupid as I know. What's your next one, dave? My next one relates to yesterday as well. Yeah, yeah, haircuts.
Speaker 1:Haircuts. Yeah, he didn't rub his hand on your cock.
Speaker 2:No, it's not that. That's fine. I don mind sticking my elbows out and rubbing their fucking balsam if they want to.
Speaker 2:You love that, I love it no, but it's when they ask you what you want, okay, and you tell them exactly what you want, right, and every single fucking barber you go to if you don't have the same person, it's like what you want. You tell them, oh, and then they cut your hair, and then they start cutting it and then you think, hang on a minute, stop. You cut it too short now. Or you go in the wrong and then look at it and you think, well, it's too fucking late now. You've already done it. You can't put it back on, you can't. I mean, I know it'll grow back. I mean, so that's the only way I can get over. It is the fact that I know it'll grow back, but the fact is you ask them and you pay for what you get, right.
Speaker 1:They do what you always ask. I can't relate to this one, clearly, because I'm bored as a bear. Jack, you are.
Speaker 2:But what made me laugh as well while I was there I forgot to tell you this there was a young guy that came in after me, so my mirror was looking directly towards where he was, if that makes sense. Yep. So as I was looking in the mirror getting my hair cut, he was talking to the pun and he had a fucking bowl cut around his head. And the guy goes what can I do for you? He goes oh, he said, I just need it, I just need it trimming up around the edges. So he was asking. He looked fucking ridiculous, honest to god. He was like what is it with these fucking haircuts, mollets and all these fucking things?
Speaker 1:oh my god, they're definitely interesting.
Speaker 2:They're definitely, but people are paying good money to have this done and I'm like what the fuck are you doing? Yup, yup, yup there you go. I did have a chuckle to myself thinking well, my hair and after all.
Speaker 1:But again.
Speaker 2:It was just a pet peeve thinking well, why ask if you're going to fucking do what you want to do to it anyway? You can do what you want anyway.
Speaker 1:Just do what you want, and then you come out with pink pony cup hair. But yeah it'd be great. So my next one is local community groups on Facebook. So I'm part of a few local community groups on Facebook and one of them is my 2770 group and it's all about. That's my postcode for people that don't know where Mount Druid is it's a lovely area. No, it was always targeted as a bad area and a rough area and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I grew up there. Since we get a negative issue at the moment with all the fucking stabbings yeah, it is but look, the stabbings happen everywhere. I know, but it seems more apparent.
Speaker 1:But it's definitely, definitely copping and flacking at the moment, that's for sure. But there's a local community group that have just gone on there and they're having this big rant about the police and how come they keep raiding these tobacconists right that are selling illegal vapes and some Lucky Charm cigarettes or some fucking cigarettes, lucky Eights I don't know what they're called. I don't smoke, I don't know what they're called, but they're carrying on going up in flames about how the police are raiding these tobacconists. And I'm thinking well, they're raiding them because they're doing something illegal, right, and as a member of the community that gets targeted all the time because we're so shit at doing illegal stuff, and you all jump on and say why are you targeting us? You're just adding fuel to the fire.
Speaker 1:So I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself you guys are actually not helping yourself by doing this. So it sort of pissed me off a little bit. I'm thinking how about you try and do something that's law abiding instead and say, well, yeah, don't buy from them If you want to smoke like, which is filthy, but I'm sure everyone does it Lots of people still do it but at least pay full price for them and pay your taxes because you're not paying your taxes when you're working because you're unemployed fucks Yep. So you're not paying taxes, you're on the dole right, they're also stealing from the shops as well.
Speaker 2:They're also stealing from the shops as well.
Speaker 1:They're stealing from the shops as well. They can't win, cannot win. No.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:I've got one more.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you know what this is.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:It happened literally about an hour ago.
Speaker 1:I think we shared this one. Woody Martha, yeah, you are going to, you're going to do, you do, no, you do it.
Speaker 2:You do it. You answer the door. You do it. You spoke to her. That's neighbour.
Speaker 1:We've got to knock on the door right. Just before we were about to press record and Woody Martha, across the road, said Can you not park there? And I went, sure, no worries, right. But she was ready for our fight.
Speaker 2:Right Now, I parked on the street, which is where every other car's parked, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:The parking in that street is just atrocious. It's a tight street, to say the least.
Speaker 2:I've done nothing illegal. No, I used to park on the grass and I got told that if I do that I'll probably get fined. So I just did the right thing and parked on the curb line, which because when they got a car.
Speaker 2:but she'll park her car on the other side of the road, so it's adjacent to mine, directly opposite my driveway, but then she then has a cheek to tell me that I can't park where I'm parking outside Matt's house, right, because it's affecting her ability to get in and out of her driveway. Right, it's not my fault, you're a bad driver, so you know. But she'll put another car on her side so she can Literally into Matt's like tree line. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1:So it was quite funny. It was quite funny because she'd come up all fire-sealer and thinking I was going to have an argument with her and tell her to fuck off, which I'm not going to. Well, quite right, you could have done.
Speaker 2:I could have, I could park anywhere I wanted, I paid my fucking rates.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day I was like, yeah, no, worries didn't go, I know because dave goes from zero to 100 she would have.
Speaker 2:She would have pushed my button straight away and I would have said go fuck yourself, bitch. What are?
Speaker 1:you gonna do about it hit?
Speaker 2:my car and I'll fucking hit you back yeah, it would have been fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, she was very angry, very, very angry indeed. So, um, so, yeah, so good it was.
Speaker 2:It was fun though it was fun to meet her son.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know maybe oh yeah, it's quite hot.
Speaker 2:yeah, drag him in and say fuck it, I'll give you, come on over.
Speaker 1:Let me show you how to reverse on this. Maybe listen to the segment. Maybe that's why he knows you. Yeah, but yeah. So it was a bit fun, but she was a bit angry, but it was pet peeve, but not really at the same time. But yeah, so that that's us for this week.
Speaker 2:Dave, no, we've got one more thing to talk about. Oh, what we didn't talk about the brewery and your grinder. Okay, we were going to use it in the segment with the last bit. We were but we didn't. It's important that we do tell.
Speaker 1:We do tell Okay.
Speaker 2:So what happened when we were out on Saturday night?
Speaker 1:Well, when we were out, Miami was there.
Speaker 2:And she asked I'll see borrow Matt's phone.
Speaker 1:I don't know what for she? Didn't ask to borrow my phone. Your phone was on the top.
Speaker 1:My phone was my phone was I would, because somebody we said something about. I wonder how many guys gay guys are here or guys on Grindr here, right, so I opened Grindr. Yay, yay. Everyone gets excited when I open Grindr because it's always fun and amusing for everyone else apart from me that gets hit up with messages that I'm not gonna fucking answer. Let's be honest, all right, um, or I'm gonna answer the messages to have a chat, but I'm not into having zero intention of hooking up right, that's so fucking really oh very rarely okay let's go very rarely the two times I've done it.
Speaker 1:it's just not been successful, so why would I bother? All right, um, so anyway, I opened Grindr and had a look and there was a couple of hot guys there, but none of them were actually within zero.
Speaker 2:No, it's not the guys in the fucking premises.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. However, I've opened it up and Miami said can I have a? So I tapped on this one guy because he was quite hot and she was having a slide through all his photos and she's going oh, he's very nice. And she was having us slide through all his photos and she's going oh, he's very nice, and she's. Can I message him?
Speaker 2:for you. He was muscular, wasn't he?
Speaker 1:He was muscular, big, hairy, fit, looking hairy big beard, right, quite sexy, really a purse street, anyway, she loves that sort of person. Actually I'm my street too, they're up my anywhere. So she said can I message? I went, worries, and so I think he'd messaged first and said hey, right, which is what? How we communicate on grinder, everyone knows that, um. And so I went hey, how you doing, buddy? And he's like, yeah, good, what's up and all this kind of stuff, and and so I didn't answer back because I thought, well, I'm busy, I'm with friends anyway. And she said can I answer? So I said yeah, no worries. So she started a bit of a back and forth conversation for you for me, and I can't really remember how that one goes, my gentleman open grinder again.
Speaker 2:He's talking about being hot, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, he said yeah, she told him you're, you're hot, or something like that, and he said, thanks, you too, um, and he said, like, what are you up to? And I I then, by that stage, had actually taken the phone back, yeah because I was petrified. Right, and there is a reason I was petrified, because she had also chatted another person in my phone.
Speaker 2:Oh no, she saw another person on there and we all looked and it was like She'd seen another person, the profile picture. Describe the profile picture.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it was a man, was it? Yes, it was a man. Did he have a face? No, he didn't have a face, so you don't know whether it was a face. Had red stockings, red panties, a red corset and red suspenders, right? I don't think it had heels and such right.
Speaker 2:But he hit on you. No, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, she seen that photo. She opened it up and went to the message and typed in red's my favourite colour. That's right. Right, so I've gone. Oh fuck, what have you done? So I was dying. At that stage I thought oh, please, just don't answer.
Speaker 2:Don't answer.
Speaker 1:Of course I did, and then I got a message back saying, hey, I went, no, this is not happening.
Speaker 2:And so Miami's got the phone back off me. She stole it from me.
Speaker 1:Dave knows my passcode. I'm sitting there going. Oh my God, oh my God, I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. And she's typed out can we trade panties, but I want to wear them for a week. No, I want you to wear them for a week. No, I want you to wear them for a week first, but I want you to wear them for a week straight first. Right, and this person has gone okay.
Speaker 1:To which I'd commandeered my phone back by that stage. So I proceeded to block that person pretty much immediately because I thought I don't want this to go down any further. But it was hysterical. It was funny because everybody was laughing. Everyone was laughing and it was like oh, my God, and look, Grindr is fun.
Speaker 2:Well, any app is fun if you're not the person that's writing or you're writing the text for somebody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because it can go both ways yeah. It's a bit like Michael McIntyre, the British guy that does all the oh yeah who texts out the phones?
Speaker 1:He's so funny.
Speaker 2:honestly, he's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so yeah, he's very good, he's very good, so yeah, but that was our Saturday night fun event. But, yeah, good on you Miami.
Speaker 2:I thought I'd just mention it because it was fun. Fucking bitch.
Speaker 1:I love her Love her, love her dearly, anyway, all right, so that's been us for this week. I'm really excited about next week's guests.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we won't probably give a snippet. Sorry, I'm going to give them a bit of a snippet.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's some hot underwear models. Okay, we're going to have them on.
Speaker 2:This With a European.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with a European. Ooh, so it's going to be our first international guest. That's why we're really excited for that yeah, cannot wait.
Speaker 2:And I think it's going to be awesome. Yeah, it's going to be great.
Speaker 1:So it's going to be sexy as hell. How am I going to keep myself from getting a boner or a fucking episode? I'm going to sit here and fucking have to rub on out. Just get out. Luckily we oh, luckily we don't do video hey. Hey, you might hear a bit of a splash on the soundboard people, but yeah, yeah, so I've been Dave and I've been Matt.
Speaker 2:As usual, we got you.
Speaker 1:I've actually been Matt and I'm actually Dave. All right, I hope you've enjoyed the show. That's a wrap from us. We've been your fully grown homosos and we look forward to opening your mind, your ears and your curiosities. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and share our podcast with your curious friends. You can contact us on fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom or any of our socials. Fullygrownhomospodcast you.
