Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Generational Growing Pains
Remember the days of perms, mullets, and portable TVs the size of two iPhones? Dave and Matt take you on a nostalgic journey through five generations, exploring how each has shaped our world and influenced the next.
Starting with the Silent Generation who survived the Great Depression and World War II, we trace society's evolution through the activist Baby Boomers who fought for civil rights and LGBTQ+ acceptance, to our own Gen X experiences (which Dave confidently declares "the luckiest generation"). We fondly recall the musical golden age of the 80s, those questionable fashion choices we made, and how technology gradually transformed from floppy disks to smartphones.
The conversation turns fascinating—and occasionally heated—when discussing Millennials who pioneered internet culture, and especially Gen Z who've never known a world without screens. As parents and observers of younger generations, we struggle to understand their relationship with technology, their expectations, and their approach to work. It's a candid look at generational divides that will have you reflecting on your own generational identity and the forces that shaped it.
Between generational analysis, we share our week (including Dave's birthday celebrations), discuss Sam Smith's latest identity announcement as "xenosexual," and vent about our pet peeves—from KFC's inability to count chicken pieces to supermarket aisle blockers. Join us for this thoughtful, humorous exploration of how we became who we are based on when we were born.
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Speaker 1:Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt, and this week we're going to talk about lots of different stuff, which is unusual, and Dave's already doing the nose breathing thing. I know I can't help it.
Speaker 2:I've got a bit of a cold, but hey, I've just had my Vicks up my nose, so that's all right, he's just stuck his Vicks up there, so hopefully he'll be able to breathe throughout the session.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so this week we're going to do a bit of a weekly wrap. We're going to talk about through the ages, through different generations, and stuff like that. But before we get into that, let's do a bit of a weekly wrap up and then we're going to talk about our favourite pop star. So let's do our weekly wrap up first. Dave, what have you done?
Speaker 2:Well, as you know, it was my birthday. He had a birthday.
Speaker 1:I did have a birthday Happy birthday to you and you wrote birthday. I did yay, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to dave. Happy birthday to you. Yeah, we did an ai song. Oh, you did. I did an ai song for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that was pretty cool so, yeah, uh caught up some friends um, had lunch, had dinner twice, had dinner twice. Yeah, we had dinner at the club and then we met up with, uh, dick and fanny, um we did friday.
Speaker 1:Well, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's a completely different event, but it's also also part of the event, but it was still, you know my birthday was on.
Speaker 1:Wednesday, so you know it was pretty, so we had dinner at the club with Brittany and Justin and Matt and Russ Yep.
Speaker 2:And that was pretty much you turning up. Oh, my son turned up as well, and your son as well, came for your birthday.
Speaker 1:Yes, which nice. Yeah, absolutely really nice. Always nice to see adam, yeah, but yeah and um, and we got through the night without arguing. Yeah, it was really cool. There was a couple of touch and go moments there.
Speaker 2:Oh look, I mean it was just you know, it's just the way it is. This is why we're talking about. This is why we're talking about the conversational generations and stuff today is because it's just like something that we need to address and talk about, because it's just like something that we need to address and talk about because it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct, he does Grinded Gears, which is quite fun to watch. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And even Brittany was being challenged by him as well. Yeah, so that was pretty cool, yeah, which is fun.
Speaker 1:It's fun, but yeah. So we had your birthday. We went to the Carrington what's it called the Claradine, that's right. We went to the Claradine, which is out near Richmond opposite the RAF base. We were going to stop at the bead on the way. Well, you were. I wanted to go and get a quick BJ from some Navy guys or something like that the military, so the ref whatever same thing.
Speaker 2:Military on the sea air force were in the air. Okay, you don't get many boats floating by unless you're in the hall, I do.
Speaker 1:I get many boats. Yeah, you get blown by. I get men everywhere, seaman, seaman.
Speaker 2:Yay, able seaman, I'm very able to be seaman um yeah, so that was, and then I did a bit more renovations, so I'm making progress with that, which is good.
Speaker 1:But on Friday night we went to karaoke at the Claritin. But before karaoke we had some dinner. The food was really nice. We had dinner with Dick and Fanny and with Dick's son, yeah, and his girlfriend, who I call boyfriend. He calls me boyfriend. He's girlfriend, who I call boyfriend. Um, he calls me boyfriend. He's a sweet kid. He's such a nice kid, such a really well-mannered, respectful young man. He's just a cool and mature for his age. Yeah, and his girlfriend is like, absolutely delightful as well. Um, but, yeah, we had.
Speaker 1:I can recommend the baked camembert. Right, dave thought it was way too expensive for 22 bucks. Well, for for an entree, it was fucking sensational. God, it was beautiful. Had the pepitos on it with the honey and what are they called pepitos and what are they? Matt, oh fuck you, they're punk. They're the inside of a pumpkin seed. All right, I don't say some words, right, apparently, according to dave, but that's all right, just me, according to dave, but yeah, anyway. So that was absolutely sensational. Would go back there just for that. Um, but the pizza was really nice. It was all really yummy food.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, nice environment, yeah really lots of hot it was fun hot tradies um. There's a few big boys there weren't they there was some there was as in big, like, as in like, athletically big, oh yeah, not fat, but just like wow, yes, you have to get in the rugby tackle with them or wouldn't you?
Speaker 1:um, but yeah. But then the barman there was fucking hot god, he was sexy, but we knew him. Yeah, no, no, that was the security guard. Okay, but the barman, yeah, the barman was the tattooed one with a little mullet type thing that normally isn't a hairstyle I go for, but fuck, he was sexy and because he was cheeky and he was naughty and cute, and that as well, yeah. So, um, yeah, you got your loins going. Oh, didn't he, didn't he, didn't he? Indeed, I would have bought drinks from him all night, but I was driving. So, yeah, but yeah, um, so that was a fun night out. Um, you've done some more renovation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more renovation so, yeah, so starting to work on the outside now. Pretty much the inside's done, um, just by a few, few more electrical things that need to be finished off and touching up here and there, yep um, but the predominantly most of it is done inside now which is good, yep, um, just the outside to do now.
Speaker 2:Now it's all weather dependent and we're meant to be having more rain this week, which is going to be a big thing because it's like meant to be a massive downpour. We're going to be getting like 80 mil on tuesday, I think it is. So it's a lot of rain, yeah, I know. And then you've just dug the front garden up and you've put holes everywhere ready for putting posts and stuff in.
Speaker 2:It just becomes a little bit more uh, challenging, yeah, challenging to say the least you know, but that's you know, but it just delays everything then, because, obviously, with the cold weather and the way, the rain, the rain, way the way yeah, that's a new word, isn't it? Uh, the rain, um, it does make it harder for me to sort of make that progress, which is what I'm hoping to get done. Um, but look when the, the builds are there, they're great. I mean, they just smash through everything and me half the time. No, I'm joking, you wish?
Speaker 1:You did have a hot tradie this week. You thought he was a possibility.
Speaker 2:Yeah workable for sure, yeah, anyway, so I won't digress.
Speaker 1:Didn't put it out there. Though. Didn't put it out there, well, I don't, it's too scary.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't mix work with pleasure.
Speaker 1:I mean, I value my. You should never get your meat where you get your bread.
Speaker 2:I value my tradies too much to try on, because you know I just wouldn't want it to go wrong and lose them. I could try it on for you.
Speaker 1:Well, you could, it's fine with that. Don't get your meat where you get your bread anyway.
Speaker 2:Well, it depends If they come on. To you that's different. You know what I mean, nice.
Speaker 1:Look, I've had people come on to me in my workplaces and I didn't go there because you can't.
Speaker 2:Well, yours is small. Yours is different to mine. I mean, I'm self-employed, so I've got but, there are rules for me. Yeah't want to lose the trades I've got if it all goes wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So as much as the fantasy can be there, the reality is just get on with the work anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:So there wasn't much else for me. I continued unpacking, I tidied my garage this week.
Speaker 2:You've done well. Your house is looking so homely.
Speaker 1:My garage is done now, finally, which is kind of good.
Speaker 2:It now finally, which is kind of why it was probably a good move actually, you moving, oh yeah. I mean I feel good energy in this house, I feel very good vibes, I feel very calm and relaxed as I said, I would design this house, I'd do it a little bit different like if it was a bit more modern yeah, it would be great, but I do like the layout.
Speaker 1:I'd probably put a second bathroom in, but that's easy enough to do in in here in a renovation. If you were doing, yeah, for sure you got big enough laundry to do that enough laundry to do that. So yeah, but, um, but yeah, tons of, tons of opportunity here.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's just a nice flow, even even where we're doing a podcast from this room here it just feels very calming, very. It's got good light, it's got um, I don't know, it's just a nice, nice presence. It is. The dogs seem to be very subtle here, don't they?
Speaker 1:They haven't talked much through the podcast, so they're very comfy and cozy. But it doesn't hurt that we throw the ball around for 15 minutes. Tire them out a bit. Yeah, it makes me want to have a nap as well. Just waking you up makes you want to have a nap. Correct. So that's pretty much our week. I haven't done much. Yeah, absolutely, we're going to go to church today. We are, we are going to church.
Speaker 1:We're going to go to church Because you're off today, because you can be, because you worked nights, because I did a couple of overnights, so I sort of definitely clocked up my hours and so hence didn't go into a day and we've got a Sunday off, so we'll go and check out church for a while. Haven't been there for a while and the last time you went you said it was very good yeah very good.
Speaker 2:I mean considering what we've been in the past, and we kept on saying we're never going to go back there again because it was just like a dying day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2:Arrow's church, the one they'd write on me. This is where we met and everything else.
Speaker 1:You said it was very good, so I'm hopefully getting some action.
Speaker 2:Nice cock um and ass and all of the other, just and catching up with people that you probably haven't seen for a while. Yep, shave my balls a bit this morning. Oh, did you?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, because I think the last time I went and noticed my cocking was like pinching, all right, and I went oh fucking hell, I haven't shaved in a while, right? So all the hairs were getting caught. So I gave myself a bit of a trim while I was in the shower this morning, did you?
Speaker 2:just oh yeah. Okay, you've got to be careful though, because you don't want to nick anything, do you?
Speaker 1:Well, I kind of did, I nicked a tiny little bit because I was going in the wrong direction but only at the top. So it's okay, not on my shaft or any of my balls, yeah, but you've got to be careful.
Speaker 2:I mean going, yeah, I'm putting dead oil on my no. No, I didn't do that. I think I heard you screaming in the back garden.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct, correct. Oh, there you go, sam. All right. So, yeah, that's our week and what's going to be our weekend, I guess, but I need a moment Going to talk about our favourite pop star. Who is it, sam? I mean Dave, oh what.
Speaker 2:Who's our favourite pop star? Who is it? Sam, I mean Dave, oh what. Who's our favourite pop star? Clam Smith, clam Smith. He's no longer Clam Smith, he's no longer Clam Smith.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, what's he changed now? Well, he is now identifying as a xenosexual. What the fuck's a xenosexual? That's what I thought you would ask me. What the fuck is a xenosexual, right? Well, xenosexual is a sexuality that cannot be understood by the human brain, so we could just leave it there. So how does he understand? Well, because he's clearly a xenosexual, so he's not human. He's not human well, it says, most of the time, individuals that identify with xenosexual xenosexuality are attracted to non-human entities, and not necessarily aliens, not necessarily.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, so I've got some examples here, all right.
Speaker 1:Now I'm reading this from Sexuality Wiki, which I'm guessing is like Wikipedia sexualitiesipedia sexualities, okay so I'm guessing I'm gonna dig deep down in this website later um, but some examples can be of xenosexuality is demons where they are, the biblical demons, whether they are biblical demons or part of another religion. Slash belief people might be attracted to these regardless if they are part of another religion. Slash belief people might be attracted to these regardless if they are part of that religion or not. Right? Extraterrestrial beings? Right? So these aren't necessarily the big, green, big-eyed aliens that many people know.
Speaker 1:Extraterrestrial being oh fuck, that's really hard to say. You've got testicles on your body. Extraterrestrial beings, I don't want. That's really hard to say. You've got testicles on your mind. Extraterrestrial beings, I don't want to like extra testicles, just two's enough, three or four? Well, it depends. I've seen a bit more. Yeah, you have Extraterrestrial beings. Just mean that they are from this earth. If someone is attracted to an alien or an extraterrestrial being, fuck. Why do I put that word so many times in here, being whether it's fictional or not, depending on their beliefs. Please be respectful. It says.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what I don't get is when you said at the beginning they don't identify as a human. What was the word? As is xeno-sexual is sexuality that cannot be understood by the human brain so if sam smith is saying this about himself, then he's obviously not a human. Yeah, because he can't be if he. If he's not identifying a human brain can't identify it. So what brain has he got?
Speaker 1:well, they're also attracted to ultra humans or non-humans. This is basically people that fall into the alter human or other kin umbrella, not necessarily identifying with animals. But could what Right? Alter humans and non-humans? I'm getting fucking confused now. This is why it cannot be explained by the human brain.
Speaker 2:Well, look, I'm saying if he's identified, he hasn't got a human brain. So what fuck is he? What is he?
Speaker 1:Well, this is what he tends to continually surprise me. All right, like I don't get, I like one we discussed when he was like sam sam was. Sam was originally identifying as a male, so he was a. He him, yep right. He went on to non-binary. They then, um right, they them, which is fine. Yep right, um, I, I've got my head around that. Yeah, just about to a degree. Yep, all right. Um, through conversations with a lot of people that are identifying as non-binary, yeah, yeah and we've discussed that a million times over.
Speaker 1:Um, then to an oyster, then to an oyster, which, then to an oyster which again Was so bizarre, so bizarre, so, but now to Xenosexual.
Speaker 2:Do you know what the sad thing is? He's a good performer in terms of his songs and a good artist, but he's screwing himself over, I reckon.
Speaker 1:One of my friends had a spare ticket to his concert. Years and years and years and years and years and years ago. Yep, right, and I thought, oh, the guy's a bit miserable. Not the guy that I went with, because he's fucking talking about the original sam smith.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1:I thought he's a bit miserable in concert, yeah, as a vocalist his songs but I thought I'd go along because my friend asked me and he's a good mate and we went along and I was blown away by how good he is vocally but also his Stage presence. His stage presence, his ability to actually sit there and basically say, look, I know my songs are miserable, but let's have some fun here in between and all this kind of stuff. And so he really he knows himself right. Obviously, songs are miserable, but let's have some fun here in between and all this kind of stuff, right, and so he really he knows himself right, obviously, but but I, I don't know that I could go now.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I'm saying. He's, he's. I think he's screwing his audience memberships over because they're now getting a misrepresentation of him as a person. Well, he's not in a person anymore, is?
Speaker 1:he Well, no, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2:How are you going to publicise yourself if you're saying come to see Sam Smith. I mean who the fuck is Sam Smith anymore?
Speaker 1:Who are you anymore? But look, it's confusing as hell for me. I'm no doubting it's confusing for our listeners.
Speaker 2:I mean I still would have liked to have seen his passport changed to an oyster and that would have been fucking hilarious. You know what I mean. Could you imagine going through their fucking passport immigration and looking at that picture saying you don't identify as an oyster?
Speaker 1:I do so I've got so many questions Because they're no sexual right. Like I said, they're attracted to non-human identities, right? So is there like a Tinder for non-humans? We should do an app. Hey, that could be a thing. Money makes me stop. There's a patent on it, people we put a patent on it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, ours.
Speaker 1:So like is he going to be the only one on said app Because that's going to be really bad which he can go fuck himself?
Speaker 2:in, I guess, but how would the conversation?
Speaker 1:I don't know what language they speak. Well, depends, because aliens are from around the universe, like from different galaxies yeah, but it might not be. It might be demons. What?
Speaker 2:what noises do these fucking be? What language they speak? Oh that'd be.
Speaker 1:How'd you know that? Because I speak alien. Now, I'm xenosexual, wow no, but I really like cock and human cock. Okay, let's just make sure that it's not. But yeah, all right. Okay, rant is over. Okay, all right, rant is over.
Speaker 2:We wait with debate for further analysis.
Speaker 1:We'll also see what he changes to next time.
Speaker 2:See what happens next. Where'd you go from there, anyway? I mean, is there anything coming back? Maybe he identifies a black hole? Next, you might have been in the future bottom that's what he's come from. He's been through the universe, zap through a black hole and never come back. Oh god, you never know. There you go, we'll leave it like that, we'll leave you there. So, anyway, going back to our conversation with my birthday and my son, so today's main topic.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I spoke to you and said you know about the generations and how much Gen Z in particular warmed me up, and it's not just me, it's a lot of friends of mine who've got kids in the same age brackets. So I said to Matt would it be fun to do a topic on generations and not just his generation, our generation, our parent generation and the one before that? Yeah, so we're going to go back as far as the silent generation and I got a list what age bracket?
Speaker 1:is the silent generation.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'll give you an idea of the generation what you know are born, yeah, so basically the silent generation.
Speaker 1:Let's do it piece by piece, yeah, yeah, rather than rattle them all off.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm going to go back. So the silent generation was born between 1928 to 1945. So my late father, he was born in 1943, so he would have come into that, so he was the last ones of that that generation. Now, what I can tell you about the silent generation here on wikipedia all, and it's quite interesting because it does make sense a lot of time. So the silent generation will refer to basically as um the the smallest generation, because they were born during the great generation, a great depression, sorry, and the end of the world war two. So they were basically suppressed by uh societies. You know um need to adapt and survive. I suppose they didn't have anything. You know, they were basically um living in poverty. They had no, um, uh, what's called no conformity to anything. So they had to, they had to basically pull together to become unity, you know I mean yeah, so a lot of so they were all starting from scratch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, basically. Yeah, yeah, so they grew up with pretty much nothing. Zero luxuries. Yeah, exactly, and by the time they finished their generation and passed it on to their children, which we'll talk to next, in their next generation, basically, they had, you know, pushed through all of those social challenges they had, a lot of them chose to join military, because that was the biggest employment. Um, oh, yeah, yeah, the war, yeah, and also what it was saying is after well did they choose, or was that when they were getting conscripted as well?
Speaker 1:oh no, no, well I'm not well, I think.
Speaker 2:I think it's not. What conscription is, I suppose, the word, but it's also, you know, it was necessary at the time. Yeah, because it didn't have people to fill those slots, and the world was very different back then. You know what I mean. Yeah, you had a lot of unrest in terms of, like, people trying to suppress each other with war and everything else. You know. But I'm just going to try and read a few things here for you.
Speaker 1:Um, excellent because I'm not an expert.
Speaker 2:So yes, so the silent generation was also born, like I said, during a period of relatively low birth rates or for similar reasons to the united states. While this is going in the united kingdom, this is, they live through times of prosperity as young adults economic archival in middle age and relatively comfort in later age. So as they got older they were able to start to change the way society was. You know, I mean, yeah, they fought hard to um, adapt and overcome the poverty and everything else they had. So they were like the forbear in the forerunners of, like, making the world a better place to live. Does that make sense? Okay, they had the hardship and they took it and made it work.
Speaker 1:So they were definitely a hardworking generation.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely 100%. And they also then went on to have lots of children because they were born into a very low birth rate period. Because of the wars and the depression, there wasn't much around, so parents chose not to have have children so they all come back from war horny basically exactly, and this is where the baby boomers took off.
Speaker 2:So their children, right born between 1946 to 1964, were the baby boomers, and that's where most of our parents fit into, that's where my dad so. So, going back to um, let's have a look. I did write down, so the silent generation, the very one first one. I said that they would be approximately 79 to 96 years of age now. Okay, so, look, they're pretty much towards the end of their lives, but that's that's, yeah. Yeah, I mean in that regard, you know most of them, you know um. So the baby boomers are now, you know, you know you're talking about 20 years younger than that.
Speaker 1:So they're talking like 60 to 80 years of age now yeah, yep, and then, like I said, that's where my dad fits in. Yeah, um, and they were a hard-working, oh look they. They really like my dad. I remember having three jobs, um, like he worked at a pub. He worked at um as a mechanic. He sort of did other work on the side as well. He, like they really worked, worked to put in and get ahead, um, but what do?
Speaker 2:you got on that one? No. So they say um, often shortened to boomers. The demographic cohort preceded this by the silent generation and then followed by our generations we'll talk about next um. It's often defined as people born from 1946 to 1940, 1964, during the mid-20th century, baby boom. So you're talking like the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s. They had a lot of influence if you look back at those periods in time, definitely, especially in the 70s. So basically they they challenged society. They were out there to challenge society. They became so what's the word I'm looking for? So knowledgeable in terms of what happened prior to their parents being suppressed, being in a world of, like you know, poverty and everything else. They didn't want that. So they uprose and they challenged society.
Speaker 1:They were change makers.
Speaker 2:This is where the hippies and all that came into effect.
Speaker 1:Well, that's when Stonewall was 1969.
Speaker 2:A lot of riots went on, a lot of challenges to society, and they were saying fuck you, we're not having this for ourselves.
Speaker 1:So it definitely changed the queer perspective from Stonewall, which were the riots that were in 1969, where basically drag queens and gay men and lesbians all sort of rose up against the police and caused a big riot or had a big riot. Lots of people died, unfortunately, but there was definite change that came about from it and they weren't afraid to front into that change, I guess, which we're grateful for, because that's actually sort of given us a lot of the rights and the privilege that we actually have now so social, social rights and social movements definitely was what they're, they're the synonymous for.
Speaker 2:I mean, you look at everything around the world and you know. You look at the periods of time um relating to, like I said, you know the vietnam war and that they were so anti it they didn't want any more wars. We had Woodstock all those things.
Speaker 2:But they were out there protesting and they changed a lot for society. I mean, we can be grateful for a lot of things that they've done 100%. You know what I mean. And again, very hard workers. They brought in modern jobs and everything else. They sought to better themselves. They went to education, they learned how to sort of like what you're looking at. No, I'm just looking at your notes. Oh, no, that's just a general no, I'm trying to work out your dates. Okay, yeah, sorry, yeah, so I'm reading pretty much stuff off Wikipedia here.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So this is also. They were also responsible for Mardi Gras here, you know I mean. So this is also. They were also responsible for Mardi Gras. So 1978 was Mardi Gras. Yeah, exactly our first Mardi Gras. Again, it's a protest, you know I mean yeah they were.
Speaker 2:They were basically changing the wrongs for rights. Yeah, you know, in a big wave and that just started all the way through, from the 1950s upwards, you know. I mean they kind of embraced life, they loved to aspire to better themselves. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, we had the swinging 60s.
Speaker 2:Well, look at the glamorization.
Speaker 1:Sexual revolutions.
Speaker 2:They brought in so much Music started. Started, yeah, but then our generation then took that further, which we'll talk about.
Speaker 1:Well, there's debates as to when the best era for music is.
Speaker 2:I mean, I love the fact that you can go back, and every single 10 years there's always a different generation of music coming through.
Speaker 2:Different style different things, different artists, different people, and that's great. I love it. You know, same with movies and films. They've adapted and changed over the times as well. But look, I mean it's not until you start looking back and then you realize just how lucky you are as a person to live your life in the generation you are. And you know I'll go on to this because I mean we're going to talk a lot more about our generation because we've lived through it, yeah, and we still are living through it, yeah. Um, so our generation being gen x, anyone born between 1965 and 1980 is in that group of people. All right, so we're gen x, we're with gen x, yeah, okay so so 1965 to 1980 so that was the beginning.
Speaker 2:We're pretty much the beginning of um that that generation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're not the boomers and we're gen x. What?
Speaker 2:I'm saying is we were born up here, so the boomers were the ones that were protesting. They were at the age. Yes, I've explained to you before, so we are grateful for them. You know? I mean I'm moving forward.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm thinking to myself that 78,. But obviously they would have basically been born Eight years of age, yeah, yeah, so they wouldn't have been protesting at eight years of age.
Speaker 2:No, exactly, that's right, that's great. So, like I said, I mean, you know, the baby boomers are the ones that push society Mathing ain't my strong suit. Look, I mean with it, don't get me wrong we've.
Speaker 1:We've affected a lot of change in our generation and, yeah, I guess the, the, the pain and the heartache and the, the protests and the law reforms and the pushing and the pushing and the pushing for the equal rights and things like that has definitely sort of come about, I guess, starting from like your 78ers and some more rights and things like that. But we've carried it forward and we've really put marriage equality on the and that's only a new thing. Right, and it wasn't because everyone wanted to go out and get married, but we wanted the right to. If we were, how partner was in hospital, um, we had no rights to legally go and see them, yeah, so we wanted those kind of like I said.
Speaker 2:I mean I think what I can take. I mean this is being biased as well, because obviously I am Gen X and I've lived through the years but, talking to all of our friends and all the people who I've grown up with in the same period of time have said that I think we have been the luckiest generation because we've had freedom given to us, we've had the introduction of basic technology, but we've also had that ability to go out and have fun. Yeah, you know, and we were referred to, or we are referred to, as a latch, latch key generation. So basically because society changed a lot, more women had gone into the workforce in the baby boomer period as well, so parents were producing babies at a massive rate. So population growth was like exponential. Exponential, should I say yeah, but also at the same time, they had to to work together yeah, to bring the family household, so they were very connected as a family.
Speaker 2:The baby boomers, by the time we got to gen x is ours, um, it was beginning to be a little bit more harder for them, you know. I mean so you did see a lot more family dynamics breaking down. There was a lot more um divorces happening to start with, you know, or marital breakdowns, fathers leaving the fold and basically, you know, single parents becoming more popularized in that period of time, if that makes sense, um or more not popularized, but it's not more present, yeah, more present.
Speaker 1:So that's the wrong way to say popularized um.
Speaker 2:But like I said, my, my take on gen x is music is definitely the thing, that thing that spurs me on through life. It really does.
Speaker 1:Well, look, if you look at every generation, they had music styles, right and iconic music styles, but undeniably, undeniably, is definitely the 80s. Right was the best for music ridiculously the best.
Speaker 2:Because you had the influence of disco pop in 70s through to rock.
Speaker 2:Yeah and then you've then gone to the new romantics. What we are, you know, people of loving and very more calmer, very more sort of like, you know, easy listening music, but with that beat, you know I mean, yeah, and then you've got the then add-on of new technology with the beatboxes and stuff coming through. You know, I mean, so it's a cross mix of a lot of Symphs and all of that. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, exactly that Like something that was never heard of before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see that with Cindy Lauper, those icons, those abs, shira and stuff like that. Now I know she bridged fucking every generation and still is. Yeah, she has 70 years and still is. I know she's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's just ridiculous. You can't imagine being part of it.
Speaker 1:Madonna launched her career in the 80s.
Speaker 2:I think someone said that Cher has had one number one hit for every generation of her life.
Speaker 1:I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that. So she's had at least 70 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she's had at least one number one hit somewhere in the world that specializes in her music.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool somewhere in the world. Yeah, that specializes in her. Her music pretty cool.
Speaker 2:That is so cool pretty cool, pretty so cool, yeah, but it wasn't just that. I mean, you know, for me growing up you had take tv was taken off. I mean, you know, we didn't have many channels and we were lucky we had maybe one or two tvs in the house at that point color tvs as well, rather than black and white yeah, yeah, I remember while we're on tvs.
Speaker 1:I remember watching the Olympics right on this portable TV, right with the neighbours. And this thing, I swear to God, I'm holding up my hand Fit it into the box. It literally would have been about four inches.
Speaker 2:Just bigger than maybe two iPhones together. Maybe, yeah, two iPhones.
Speaker 1:Two iPhone normal size iPhones.
Speaker 2:Smaller than your laptop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, about four inches wide, like, like square across this little tiny TV and there was like me and the neighbours all sat around and watched this thing. I wish I still had that little TV right, Because it would have been so cool to still have what I'm saying is technology took off so much then.
Speaker 2:I mean we had the introduction of, like the computer systems. I remember having my very first Spectrum was what I had? Sinclair Spectrum. I mean you know, because at the end of the day, innovation was coming through and technology was changing the way we looked at things. I mean I studied computer studies at school, but it was very basic, you know. We were learning like the 1960s Charles Babbage was the one that invented. You know the um, you know the. I believe you. Yeah, the computer I had a tandy trs8.
Speaker 1:So tandy was a big tech company back in the day, yep, yep, um, and I had a trs80 right and it had a floppy disk right. I said floppy disk, yeah, disk, um. And then it had like, and that was a three and a half inch floppy disc and something like that and you used to insert this thing into the actual computer and it would read. So it was like predating, yeah, cassette tapes and all that kind of stuff, um. But then you actually bought an add-on for it that you actually plugged in and it was a cassette, a cassette program, right. So it was like a cassette.
Speaker 1:And I remember having this, this um program that was like a psychic reader it was called esmeralda the psychic reader or something like that, and you'd basically type in a command or like a question and she'd actually give you an answer to your questions, like a psychic would and stuff like that, and it was obviously all pre-programmed, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I sat there and I went like that was insane, because this, this trs 80, um, if you google it and I'll put a picture up when I do this one, right, but it was the, the, the screen and the keyboard, keyboard were all connected with a little pot, little place for the floppy disk on the side and stuff like that, yeah, and again, like it'll be in a museum somewhere. But if you look at the fact that this thing was big and it was heavy and I remember moving it house to house and that for a while and it used to weigh a fucking ton, right, so the tech that was in there was stupid. And now I pick up my phone and I think you actually said to me a couple of weeks ago well, your phone's really light, right. And I went yeah, I know, and I'm thinking to myself, but it does way more than I could ever do before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, for sure so it's just like I know we've come a long way yeah, and you think that most of these phones that we have and now they're all superseded as well, they're're just waiting the new ones are on the shelves, waiting just for us to spend more money and, you know, get that technology given to us. But look at the end of the day, I mean, you know, I can be so grateful for a lot of things in the 80s, like I said, learning about music. I think also, we became much more creative in the 80s. You, we became much more creative in the 80s. You know arts and and stuff like that were taken off bigger. You know people, people were moving into the more the, the artistic sort of like we're allowed to do what we wanted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, because fashion was a big thing in the 80s, a huge thing bad fashion some really bad, yeah, but look, I mean, it was like what was your?
Speaker 1:worst fashion moment through the 80s. A lot of the mullets were the fucking worst I fucking ever saw.
Speaker 2:No, for you personally. What the worst I hated.
Speaker 1:No. Now, when you look back and you go, oh God, what was I thinking For me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I just had a bald haircut. I didn't have much choice for that. My mum gave us all the same haircut Me and my brother and my sister we had. These fucking haircuts were the same. That would have been hot.
Speaker 1:It was not hot at all, it was like fucking I think like I don't know you've got the old Nana jumpers and stuff you used to wear, I think, the colour choices Retrospectively, when I look back at photos and I see there's a photo of me somewhere. Shell suits no, no, I don't think I ever had any. Oh, you would have had a chance. No, we were too poor. Really, we didn't have any of that kind of stuff. Yeah, no, we didn't have the money.
Speaker 1:I literally had a pair of jeans that I would wear to school every single day, to the point where they got threadbare Right and then. So basically only then did they get replaced. If then they got replaced and I was sort of growing at a rapid rate as a teenager and they just fitted me the whole way through school, pretty much right. But I was also in a situation where we, like my mum was a single mum, yeah, and we never went hungry, no, but I literally had a vegemite sandwich every day for lunch. Yeah, right, for school, that's it like a vegemite sandwich.
Speaker 1:No wonder I was thin back then. Yeah, fuck, I might try that diet again. Um, no, um. But I think I look back at my fashion faux pas and I had quite a, quite a many um, no wonder people knew I was gay, um, or assumed I was gay because I actually had a perm, right, oh, you're kidding. Um, yep, yep. Just imagine this little head with a perm and blonde bleached right. Michael Bolton rings a bell to me, yeah, that's a look, even one style there.
Speaker 1:One time there I actually went to the hairdresser and actually had a Batman symbol cut out of the back of my hair, bleached in the back of my hair. Now I'm grateful that there is no evidence of that, but I do look through photos and I coached my sister's netball side to win a grand final. So I remember seeing, I remember this photo of me in the grand final jacket, which is a burgundy maroon, yeah. Which is colourfulundy maroon, yeah. Which is colorful, then. Which is colorful, yeah. And I've got this it's like it's earth tones but it's very flecky, kind of like shirt with white shorts and these white leather sandals, but they had like all straps cut out of them. Oh nice, you're very fashion sense. I'm so fucking gay. It's not funny. I'm like I'm sitting there and going like who was I hiding?
Speaker 2:from. But the thing is, at the time you were just following the norm?
Speaker 1:well, I was. I thought it was a shit, no doubt yeah, but we all followed that.
Speaker 2:It's like the leather ties and leather ties. It was like the perms for the girls, the rara skirts, all those had a perm, all girls did, but it was.
Speaker 1:My sister had a perm. All girls did, but it was.
Speaker 2:Every girl had a perm.
Speaker 1:Like if you look back at it, it's fucking hysterical, I know right, Because it's like a. She looks like she had a triangle on her head Because it was a perm, but it was a bob cut perm.
Speaker 2:But also the makeup for the girls and the boys. They had a lot of mascara, a lot of colourful eyelashes, eyeshadows and lipsticks.
Speaker 1:But I also made my sister wear like she was not a style icon and she never was, never will be. She just doesn't do fashion. But I'd made her. I think I dressed her like a Barbie.
Speaker 1:I used to go to the jean shop and buy her lots of clothes and stuff like that, but I'd bought her like a white denim dress and things like that, which was really hot because she had an amazing body when she was younger and all that kind of stuff, right, um. So the thing is that, um, we all grow up, we change our body shape quite frequently, um, but like she looked great. So, um, the thing is that she got that. Um, I may, I'd seen rachel hunter Hunter, who was Rod Stewart's wife at the time, I think, or she was dating Rod Stewart. She was a model from the 80s. Yep Again, she wore this beautiful fishtail dress to some event or something like that. And when my sister was having her year 10 or year 12 formal, I got a local dressmaker to make her the same dress so that she was so fashion forward. I'd sit there and go like the 80s has got a lot to answer for, I know.
Speaker 2:But in the best way possible, I mean I I if I could go back in time, I would go back and spend my time again in the 80s, over and over and over again. You know when you can get that loop like first bueller has his day off and whatever you know. I mean, I would love to just be able to wake up every fucking day and go back to how I was, because I was so stress-free, I was just living my life in the hat I had the happiest time ever, you know, I mean, and there was just so much to do.
Speaker 2:You know, we were always out, we were always playing outside, we're always never home.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah we we'd had like and I remember the people from school, right, we had like rock and roll parties, right, or fancy dresses, yep, and people didn't give a fuck. They used to actually get dressed up without thinking, oh, what are these people going to think about me? Right? Yeah, there was no judgment, was there? Yeah, no, like, we stayed in tents in each other's backyards, right, and that was actually fun. That was actually fun, that was considered fun, right, because that's where I lost my virginity um, to a girl or a boy, both, okay, actually, yeah, same day. No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't not the same day. So I, I fooled around with a girl, excuse me, in my own backyard. We had a tent and we were playing tent poles. No, we were playing spin the bottle and um.
Speaker 1:One thing led to another, and as it does, but then the with the guy um wasn't under the house no, no, it was in his tent as well, okay, and his backyard right, um, and we started falling around a bit there, but then that carried on into his room where we'd play atari, right, and I dare him to play with my gear, my joystick, and vice versa, and that's when it then started leading into him having his showers and me needing to go to the bathroom you mentioned that the podcast before yeah, and then it was like in his bike shed.
Speaker 1:How I fucked him in his bike shed and that's not a metaphor, um, it's just like some bike shed, but but the thing is, I mean looking at the list but like so many could be grateful.
Speaker 2:Like the arcades. They were big back then, you know. I mean they were like huge, you know, and obviously, like you said, the fashion sense, the um, the styles of the people and the clothes and the music were all definitely for me, the this or like the precedence that I wanted to go back to each day. You know, I mean yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, so that that was pretty much our, our generation. I could talk about this one, go on and on and on, because I just get so excited. It makes me feel happy inside, so that it is a great it does. The thing is, you don't think for mental health issues and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I think, going back, reminiscing on if you've got a happy childhood or you've got happy times that you can refer back to. For me I'll always go back to the 80s, just because you know it's, it's something george michael, where or when? Um well, exactly, you know, I mean, most of the music was good. When you think about it right now. Our generation itself, most of the people in our generation, are now between 60 and um, when I, when I left it sorry, 60, go fuck yourself. Sorry, I'm in 50, up to like 65. Yeah, that's our generation now and we fit into that bracket now. So, holy shit, I just turned 55. I know you did, you're a fucker, I know, but you're a year behind me.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like about 30 years behind you still yeah.
Speaker 2:Mentally, mentally, yeah, mentally. I'm about 40 years old. Yeah, by fucking age It'll be like 55. Yeah, that's one thing Later on.
Speaker 1:Today You'll feel a bit younger. Maybe, Maybe you never know, Nice big cock up yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 1:We'll see.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm just going to type in Generation Y, because that's what comes next? So after our generation? So what age bracket? Gen Y, more referred to as the millennials because it happened over the transition between 1999 to 2000.
Speaker 2:So their generation started in 1980 and technically finished in 1994. So I don't quite get why they're called millennials. And it can go as far as 1980. It can also go from 1981 to 1996, depending what you Google it. So I'd say anywhere between 1980 to 1996 was the Gen Y stroke millennials. I've got no idea what that noise is.
Speaker 1:I don't know either but it's annoying.
Speaker 2:You were saying Ratnay or anything. Okay sorry, I think it's your boombox. Okay Sorry, I'm just Googling, just gonna. I'm just googling something you can't, so the millennials.
Speaker 1:Okay, yep, there's a lot to unpack there. So I guess they're the. That's where entitlement sort of started. I think, um, like it's where tech let's do that. I don't know what it is. That's's where tech definitely kicked in. I think it's this Give me this, unplug that, because that's kind of annoyed the living shit out of me, I don't know why. Yeah, definitely was that. So tech definitely started there in a big way. So we talk about our computer generations and things like that, but that's when people actually started developing software. Really, I think Apple really launched there. I'm not sure what else happened there. Like, the 90s was also really good for the music because you had the Spice Girls and things like that. You had lots of really good music coming out of the 90s, especially the early 90s, because that was sort of bleeding over from the 80s and that as well. Yep, what else have you got there for us, dave?
Speaker 2:I'm just going on so looking like this. Sorry, that's all right. So they were basically the first generation to grow up with the internet itself. Millennials have been described as the first global generation. The generation is generally marked has been elevated uses and familiarity with internet, mobile devices and social media, okay, and technology in general. So that makes sense because a lot of the people who look at now, like the youtube platforms and stuff like that, are people of that. They've hit it when it was running, you know, I mean, it's fresh. So they're the ones that are now making the massive amounts of money because they were the first people to take on the idea and run with it. You know good dialogue. Well, look at, look at, uh, mr beat, is it mr beat the one that did that show? That one was the mr beat. I think his name is the youtuber. He's the one that made that show. Mr beats, mr b, sorry, yes, the beast. He's made his money because he was that generation.
Speaker 1:He was an OG YouTuber. Well, he's a millennial.
Speaker 2:So he's actually run with it since the day dot and it makes sense. You look at all these people like the Kardashians and stuff. They were millennials as well, so they've now taken on board that. You know people like Paris Hilton and stuff like that. They've got that thing set in mind.
Speaker 1:There was nothing before them. Reality TV wasn't really big. Yeah, I guess that's when reality TV started kicking in.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying They've landed feet first with everything given to them. You know what I mean. And they've taken it and expedited it, Run with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, so it's again a pretty hardworking generation for the most part.
Speaker 2:But they've integrated social media and and and all these technical um devices into their daily, daily life. So they've whereas we were grown up and we were introduced to them, but not, it wasn't our main thing yeah, we'd still actually see the outcome. Yeah, we only had a very small amount, but they then grew up with them because it became part of their lives and they adapted and developed and developed and developed to the point where then that generation after that which is what we're going to talk about later on, which is my son's generation not too much later on.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is, you know, the generations have basically bounced off each other, haven't they? Yeah, so you know, like I said, we can be grateful for what we had the generation after, so on, so on, so forth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but again to what point.
Speaker 2:This is what I'm saying. When we come to my son's generation. I think they've lost track of reality completely. Now I think they've become so involved with what's given to them that they don't.
Speaker 1:So the millennials, yeah, they're pretty good right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did a lot. I mean you know again, I mean you'd be thankful for.
Speaker 1:The music game was great. Music was pretty good, pretty good forward more towards a patch on the 80s, but it's still pretty good.
Speaker 2:It's still pretty good, you know, I mean like new artists coming through and also style changes as well. You look at technology as well. I mean you know going through the cars and you know the house styles and everything else and decoration, furniture. They all change as each generation comes through. You know, I mean I styles and everything else and decoration furniture.
Speaker 1:They all change as each generation comes through. You know what I mean. I think they were the ones that decided wallpaper was no longer cool, which is a good thing. It can be sometimes, yeah, it depends, depends how you use it, but it wasn't on every wall, no, and it depends how bold it is.
Speaker 2:As well, correct, correct, you know what I mean. So then you've got Gen Z. Got gen z, yes, which is where my son fits into.
Speaker 1:So gen z. Is anyone between um?
Speaker 2:1997 to the year 2012. Now, my son was born in 2004, so he qualifies for that yep. But my taking it as a parent now, you know, I mean going from being a child to a parent um, doesn't get it. I don't get them. I really do not get them. Um, I understand that they've been brought and, as my son will always refer to me and tell me that you, you don't know, you've never grown up with it, you know. So how would you know? And I understand what he's saying, I never grew up, so my childhood has been completely different. He's grown up with all this technology in his face since he was born, you know, and I've thrown a mobile phone. Everything was there for them. But I think my perspective of it, yeah, this is.
Speaker 1:This is where I think part of the problem lays today. Well, exactly so. Everything was for them, right, so exactly. The problem is not just theirs to carry. No, it's also yours, not yours personally.
Speaker 2:But definitely yours. But we have to deal with the ramifications of their needs. You know what I mean. Well, you guys actually created this monster.
Speaker 1:We fueled them, you created the monster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, by giving them everything, not personally, but society. No, excuse me, no.
Speaker 1:You guys give him everything. Okay, and I'm not just him, but like his parents, like I'm talking children of that generation.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm saying you want to make your children's life a better place. Yep, absolutely, undeniably, right, absolutely. My sisters have done exactly the same with my nephews and things like that. Right, they want to make them for a better childhood than they had, and so on and so forth, right, so they worked bloody hard to make sure that they wanted for nothing. You sacrificed a lot for them. Yeah, unfortunately, some of that generation has gone. Well, why should I work? Why should I do anything? They've already done all the hard work for me. Right, I can sit back, chill, relax.
Speaker 2:I can have my take and eat it too, either, too. I think also they look at the millennials and see what they've achieved in terms of their success, in terms of, like, the domination, the social media platforms and stuff, and they believe in the heart of heart that they can do the same thing. But they can't because it's now old. Yeah, they've missed that opportunity. You know, the millennials will always own that spot in life or in the universe, because they're the ones that created it. They're the ones that have actually cemented themselves in it.
Speaker 1:Well, there's still spots to be had, but you've got to work hard for it. And this is where I think Gen Z are not prepared to do. They're not prepared to put in the work to get the thing they want.
Speaker 2:And it's not every single Gen Z, no, no, no, it's a collective. I would say at least 85% of the generation are the same in terms of the way they think.
Speaker 1:I think they want it, and they want it now. Right, they believe their belief system and this is only my opinion, obviously, but their belief system is that they can actually go to uni, sit down in a classroom, learn everything and come and get paid way more than anyone else to do the same job. Right, because that's what we've told them.
Speaker 2:We've told them that this is important, that's important, that's important and but again, I think they've had a lot of influence as well from the millennials. Because just going back to millennials, I've just seen this thing on thing which I meant to bring up before we changed over to Gen Z was the millennials basically had a lot of. They saw a slower growth of economic growth, more recessions entering the marketplace workforce. They also weighed down with student debts. So they were the ones that first took on student debts. But of course, our generation, we didn't have it because we didn't have to pay university fees as well. Nothing I can't remember ever having to pay university fees. I never went um anyway. So you know they're the ones that took on those things. But also it says fertility rates around the world drop dramatically, so they haven't had as many children as well. So they've gone from being baby boomers to where we are, to backwards again. So we're going backwards. And look at most people these days they have two kids.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is, I think the fertility thing has got a bit to do with the economics, because it's an expensive world we're living in, exactly Right.
Speaker 1:So the thing is, housing affordability is at an all-time low um. To actually buy a house, to get a deposit for a house, um is virtually impossible for a lot of these guys, kids or these people of gen z sort of age brackets and all that kind of stuff, because they're not prepared to necessarily go and put in the work right to actually really bank that money and point bank that coin, because that's what it's going to take right now. I know my nephews are exceptions to the rule, um, because they've got investment properties and all that kind of stuff and they really have worked their little butts off to make sure that they can actually do all that um. So they, they are doing all right out of it all um, but there are, like some, so many that that just struggle and, yeah, they'll never get ahead. So it's lucky that they've got parents that have actually gone ahead and done yeah but, like I said, every generation has a direct correlation to the one before them you know, I mean yeah obviously.
Speaker 2:So whatever happens in that generation will be evolution. Yeah, exactly, but it has a massive effect. So, going forward again, I mean it says that gen uh, the millennial, sorry also lost the religious base. They appear more spiritualized as well. So, you know, they, they found that religion wasn't main, the main thing they had to follow. They felt, okay, we're gonna go spiritualize, and this is probably where sansmith falls into this fucking category. That's not good, but I'm just saying, you know, I mean yeah, um, but anyway. So going back to gen z again, um, they've, they've, they've now become more anxious. I see that in my son all the time. Yeah, his anxiety levels, his depression levels are very high and I think that's down to too much interaction on social media.
Speaker 1:It's a lack of human connection but they don't.
Speaker 2:They don't get out enough, they don't socialize a lack of human connection. Yeah, exactly, I'm saying so everything's face value on the phone.
Speaker 1:They don't have that ability to talk to you face to face look, I guess the introduction of apps and things like that, right, great for technology, great for us because everything's quicker and easier and there is so much more available. But as a flip side to that, there's the lack of human connection. So the thing is that, with with the introduction of all that and by handing people and I guess people of current generations, um, don't realize by handing their child an ipad to babysit them, right, they're having an effect long term, right but it's a thing to do now.
Speaker 2:They do it.
Speaker 1:That's what they do like, and we we've got friends and family and they're doing phenomenal jobs at parenting. I'm not ever going to diss their parenting, because I wouldn't ever fucking do it for a million years, right. But by handing them an iPad, yep, you're wanting them to, and I guess the way our parents used to send us into our own room to play, right, because we'd go and get told you can't sit out here with the adults, you've got to go in there with the other kids, right, and stuff like that. So I guess that's a way of keeping them nearby. But sending them to another room almost is by giving them an ipad, um, but what you're doing is fundamentally setting them up so that they can watch something on a tv but we've also lost the, the discipline as well within society.
Speaker 2:I mean, our generation was probably the last ones that were disciplined and we respected everybody. Look at going to school. I mean you know, our teachers, you know, were always respected and stuff. I mean you had a few that weren't you know. I mean, yeah, two kids, but in general you'd always say good morning, mrs. So and so good afternoon. Whatever. You'd respect people, you had manners and that. That soon that went away, as soon as society said, you know, give them their rights, give them their freedom, they're entitled to have, you know, a voice this is, and I get it.
Speaker 1:You know, where do you? Draw the line this is where I'd really hate to be a parent in today's society, because you're not allowed to whack your own kid exactly you cannot discipline your own child.
Speaker 2:And this is what I'm saying. The world has gone crazy in terms of being controlled by societal needs, and conforming to what society tells you you can and can't do has allowed society to change the way it is today. And I do blame society in lots of ways, and I've told you this before, um, but it's having a ramification as the generations are moving on, because again, they're becoming so complacent with what their rights are. And you know everything else, and you know I know we're gonna have to wrap it up very soon, but all I'm just saying too is you know, I struggle to understand gen z. Yep, I get frustrated with gen z. I don't know where they're going to go in the future. I know we've got alpha. We've got alpha that's already just finished and beta is now. So I don't know where those two generations are going to go, because I haven't done enough research. But I think we're going down a slippery slope. I think we're going to get to the point where there's not going to be any control over anything.
Speaker 1:The beauty of it is, though we're not going to be around to know, but we are for a little while.
Speaker 2:We are for the next 20 years?
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, no, I'm not living that long. I hope you do, absolutely not. Who am I going to go to?
Speaker 2:church with Take your teeth out and go by yourself. We'll be going to the proper church by that stage, won't we?
Speaker 1:Praying at the proper altar. I won't be going to any kind of proper church ever, but anyway so we'll. So generations wrapped up um, but just very quickly. I know if you could choose two generations to swap.
Speaker 2:Who? Which two generations would you swap up? What do you mean? Like gen z and the silent generation I would love to swap, give the people of depression the ability to have something and give the ones of society, now gen z, back to where they had nothing and see how they would live, see how they're not permanently exactly, but they might need that to shake up society, to, say, generation of princesses where they had nothing and see how they would live, see how they'd live, not permanently, but just see.
Speaker 1:They wouldn't cope Exactly, but they might need that to shake up society, to say, fuck, generation of princesses. Appreciation of the previous generations is far more needed.
Speaker 2:No, but I blame your generation for that, because you guys give them everything, but yeah, well, there you go, anyway, so that's my take on it anyway, anyway, anyway, if you've got any, generation. Questions you want to tell us, then let us know yeah, what's your gen story?
Speaker 1:um, but uh, who's your favorite generation? Hit us up on our socials. Fully grown homos podcast, um. However, we're going to jump in to pet peeves so because, apart from certain generations obviously being pet peeves for us, um, we've got a couple of others that we like to talk about all the time.
Speaker 2:Now, dave do I have to go first?
Speaker 1:okay, I can go first, I don't care, go on, then you go first, I'm gonna go first, all right. So my one of my pet peeves now. I'm not a big takeaway fan. I don't eat much at all because I've had my gastric sleeve surgery but if I'm getting takeaway, I need it to be fucking right right now. If I'm ordering via an app, right, which tells you exactly what you've got to put into the box, right, when you're going to do it, how you're going to do it, I need it to be right. Right. If I go to hungry jacks, for example, I'll order my bacon deluxe, minus tomato, minus lettuce, minus lettuce, right, blah, blah, blah, so and so forth. Right, they get it right every time without fail, right.
Speaker 1:I went to KFC the other week after moving house. We ordered the freaking family feast which had on the box 10 pieces of chicken, a potato and gravy, a coleslaw, a large chips. It actually had two large chips. I got one of those subbed out for the bread rolls, because that's my favourite thing in KFC the little bread rolls. They're super sweet and yummy and delicious, right. And a Pepsi Max Got home, said to Dave how many pieces of chicken you got, and he went two, I've got one. So two plus one is three, right? Plus four is how many seven? Well, there was no more in the box, right? So we got seven pieces from a 10 piece. Now, I'm not good at math, but I learned how to count the fucking 10.
Speaker 2:I just want to jump in here, Matt. Who do you think was serving you?
Speaker 1:The fucking child. What generation was serving you? Oh, gen Z, or fucking whatever they are. We just discussed that Seriously. Exactly my point taken. I get that you miscount one. Well, I don't, because it's only up to 10, so it's not that fucking hard, all right. Get that you miscount one. Well, I don't, because it's only up to 10, so it's not that fucking hard, all right. But seriously, seven like it. And then I rang up. So I rang up because I'm I'm not a karen, right? No, no, we're near right.
Speaker 1:But I thought to myself this is, if it had been one, I would have not bothered, right. And the reality is you're paying for that, that I'm paying for it, and not cheap. Kfc is not cheap, no, right. And it's not a fast food, but I'll get into that in a second Right. But it just grinds like this.
Speaker 1:So I rang up and spoke to again a 12-year-old and said she's like, oh, yeah, I'm the manager, I'm thinking maybe one day. But then she said, oh, I'm so sorry, I'll write down the book. Which led me to think well, clearly, there's a book for this. So clearly this happens often. So these fucking kids just get it right. If you've got a job, take responsibility for it, take some ownership for it, learn how to count to 10. That's not that hard, right, but I was very polite when I was telling her as well. I wasn't rude and I wasn't obnoxious, angry and and, and karen, um, so it was just like really pissed me off. But you did go back a week later, back, no, about two weeks later, two weeks later, right, and said, look, you know, this is the situation. This is the order number. It was written in the book by your 12-year-old manager. No, I didn't say that, but that's what I was thinking. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And then it took her about 10 minutes to work out where said book was. And I don't think she actually found it right, because she came back and she says, oh so, was it just replacing the three pieces of chicken? And I should have turned around then. No, it was actually replacing the whole meal. Um, check your book. But I didn't. I just said, yeah, just replacing the three pieces, okay, right. And so she just replaced the three pieces of chicken, right, but I can guarantee you she didn't check any book. There was no fucking book anywhere that she could find, because, again, she was probably 11, this manager, um, so what did you do when you got your meal?
Speaker 1:this time so I got it and I counted every single thing in there and made it show every single piece in front of them, in front of them. But so was everyone there, literally every single person that got any food before they even left, right before, before they even left the counter, they opened it up and they were checking every single piece of food, right? So this is obviously a thing at this particular restaurant, a particular kfc right, where they fuck up so frequently that people now know that they have to actually check their food before they even leave the premises, which does my head in. Yeah, and supposed to be fast food, right? This peep is great, I love it, right.
Speaker 1:Supposed to be fast food, right? This peep is great, I love it, right. Supposed to be fast food, right, because that's what it's titled, right? Um, well, it took us 27 minutes, right, and I know this sounds entitled, but it's chicken, it's cooked, it's potato and gravy, it's cooked. You pull it out of a fucking drawer. You watch them pull it out of a fucking drawer. You watch them pull it out of a drawer 27 minutes, right from order, right, and it was like 10 pieces of chicken, potato and gravy chips, fucking coleslaw. They're not making any of it on site. But guess what? What?
Speaker 2:All the people going for the dry street were getting theirs before you. Just let you know.
Speaker 1:Don't, don't, don't, I'll, don't, don't, don't. I'll kill the people in the cars. Um, no, I won't kill anyone, but that's what I'm saying. The priority is fucked it. It really fucking did my head in, it did my head in. So takeaway fails yeah, well, I would also rant around about fucking fast food places.
Speaker 2:Go dave, right, my fast food place is the big m big golden arches. Yeah, well, again, they're fucking useless as well, aren't they, you know well, anyway, I'll have a coffee and I ask for a flat white because I want a flat, fucking white. Yeah, okay, and what do I always get? Matt, I get a fucking cappuccino, right, and the difference between a cappuccino and a flat white is the fucking, is the frothiness, right, yeah. And I don't want half a cup.
Speaker 2:And I guarantee you, I pick up that cup and I feel like it's empty. So I purposely scrape away the fucking froth and yet it's half empty. Yep, I then look at them and say I asked for a flat white, and they look at that's what you got. And I said no, it's not. Look. And they look at me. So if I drunk half of it and I'm like no, I've just fucking washed away all the fucking bubbles that you made, I said I asked for a flat white, oh, okay. And then they give it back to you and it's fucking half cold, you know, I mean. So my biggest pet peeve is fucking mcdonald's.
Speaker 1:You need to fucking sort your barista people out, so sort it out like 7-eleven never makes that error, because I love 7-eleven I mean, and the coffee there is great Well it's changing. It's changing there, I think it's changed.
Speaker 2:Well, they've got this new thing, haven't they? So, yeah, that could be another pet peeve, maybe going forward, who knows? Yeah, have you got another one.
Speaker 1:I've got one more. I've got two, because I've actually got two. Wait, which one are you looking at? The middle one, it says high, something or other.
Speaker 2:High boom, I don't know. High booming. High fiving? I don't know High rooms?
Speaker 1:I don't know, it doesn't matter, it'll come to me.
Speaker 2:It's double O-M-S, it's a B or an R, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, high rooms, no, I don't know what the fuck is a high room anyway, I don't know. Dave, you know I can't read my own writing.
Speaker 2:You must not.
Speaker 1:But anyway. So I do have my other one right, and it's social media love confessions right. I fucking hate it. It does my head in.
Speaker 2:In what way?
Speaker 1:In the way that I know right and it's not necessarily friends of mine, but people that I've got on social media Right They'll be sitting in the room next to each other and they'll go. I love my husband blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or it'll be. I love my wife blah blah, blah, blah, blah. No on social media, so they're posted to their Instagram, their endless love for their partner.
Speaker 1:Right, posted to their Instagram their endless love for their partner, right. When you know they're sitting in the room next to each other, right, and confessing their love on social media, right, it just makes me sick. It's like a PDA but for the world to see. But then you see them together and they're never Disjointed. They're never nice to each other, even they don't even like each other so it's a false illusion it's all for social media and it does my head in.
Speaker 2:Well, I think social media is full like that, full stop, regardless whether it's about that or not.
Speaker 1:PDA. It's like PDA of the highest form.
Speaker 2:I've got an article that publishes shit on there and I'm like fuck, fuck, that I can't bother you. Why don't you tell everybody about every single fucking pea on your plate? You know what I mean. Why do you have to fucking broadcast all that shit?
Speaker 1:I'm chocking at that. Okay, I love posting my food pics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you don't say oh, look at how many. I've got 10 peas in my plate. Look everybody, and I've got, like this potato gravy next to it, the P just think it makes me gag.
Speaker 1:I just think, like you know, um, I've seen, I've seen a post and it was a gay couple that I know of, and I'm thinking to myself you guys aren't like that like, but you're wanting the world to think you're like keeping false images and it's just I'm sitting there going like, but then they're all like happily engaged, married, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's for their family.
Speaker 1:And I'm thinking but I also know that you guys play separately and together, yeah, but you want your family to think that you're all happily married, engaged, all this kind of stuff. Well, again, it's down to security. You don't even like each other generally. I know because you fucking hit me up separately and said don't want to play with him. Stop um and don't go any further, okay don't stop now, right, all right, okay.
Speaker 2:What's your next one? My next one is supermarket aisles. Now ball easy, tiger. Yeah, well, I, I can't stand when you're going down an aisle and you're restricted as it is anyway, because there could be people stacking shelves and stuff which I get because you need to have stock on the shelves yeah, but when people stand in the fucking middle of the aisle with their trolley and it's half turned and they're yapping, yapping yapping, yapping and you can see them and you can't get past them and they just look at you and you're like fucking move.
Speaker 2:You say excuse me and they just look at.
Speaker 2:You have to even have to be excused, when they're standing there fucking in the middle of the aisle, yapping, yapping, yapping, yapping, and they can clearly see you trying to get past and they don't make any effort, or they got their fucking prams and they got everything else in the way and you're like, fuck off. Yeah, I'm trying to do my shopping, I get. So what you do is you walk around the other way and then what do they do? They fucking follow the uber. So that, just like, is my fucking pet peeve.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get that I get that. That is that is somewhat frustrating, and imagine trying to work there and get past these people that want to sit there and have a 40 minute conversation in the middle of the aisle with their 17 children that have just come from sports, and so they're fucking tripped in dirt and mud all over your supermarket go and fucking stand by the fucking carrot aisle and fucking talk.
Speaker 2:I don't care what I do. Carrot aisle, you like the carrot aisle? I'll leave my carrots. All right, I got my last one. What's your last one? My last one is about the petrol prices, the disparity. You know what I mean. I know they go up and down because we're fucking used to that, but what grinds my is why is that one particular road, ie Mulgoa Road, where we are in Penrith, is the most expensive fucking road ever?
Speaker 2:Because, Penrith can afford it. No, everywhere else you go within five kilometers away, and they're all fucking at the same price, which is like 30 cents a liter, fucking less. Yes, and it's just like why.
Speaker 1:Why? Why do they do it? Because it's price gouging.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But what I'm saying is why is every single one on the same fucking road the same? Because it's price gouging and they can do that well it gets on my fucking tits.
Speaker 1:It does get on your tits frequently, because when you leave petrol.
Speaker 2:You shouldn't have to go fucking 10, 15 kilometers, that you're worried to get a fucking better deal and I do because it makes more sense well, and you know me, I just I don't care, because I get that covered in my arm. Well, you don't?
Speaker 1:You still have to pay for it, yeah, but I don't at the same time, so I never even look at it. But yeah, well, that's been your pet peeves. My take on the generations.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there'll be something else that I'll think about. No doubt, no doubt. My head ticks all the time. Yeah, no doubt it does. There always is. My head ticks all the time. Yeah, no doubt it does. We'll be talking about our adventures next week at church.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct Also we'll get to church soon and we'll talk about our weekly wrap-up next week and that. But yeah, all right, we're off to get some tick and some ass and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:So we hope you have a good Sunday. Yep, we've had a good Sunday so far. Sunday.
Speaker 1:Yep, we've had a good Sunday so far. Yeah, alright, I'm Dave. I've been your Fully Grown Homos. I'm Matt. He's Dave, and we'll talk to you soon. Love you, bye. That's a wrap from us. We've been your Fully Grown Homos and we look forward to opening your mind, your ears and your curiosities. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and share our podcast with your curious friends. You can contact us on fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom or any of our socials. Fullygrownhomospodcast.
