
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Looking Good, Feeling Better: The Price of Vanity
What's the real cost of looking good? Dave and Matt rip the price tag off beauty treatments in this candid, eye-opening episode that explores what we're willing to spend to feel confident in our own skin.
From Botox adventures to gastric sleeve surgery, the guys share surprisingly personal stories about their own cosmetic journeys. Dave reveals his first-time Botox experience, while Matt opens up about losing over 40kg through weight loss surgery and the unexpected psychological impact that followed. Their honest accounts highlight how these procedures aren't just about vanity—they're deeply connected to self-confidence and mental wellbeing.
The financial reality is staggering. Beyond the headline-grabbing procedures, we're talking about the steady drip of everyday beauty maintenance that adds up over time. Did you know the average makeup user spends $3,600 annually? Or that a simple eye lift starts at $4,500 but can reach $14,000? The guys break down these costs with their trademark humor while contemplating what beauty standards really mean in the gay community.
What makes this conversation particularly refreshing is how Dave and Matt explore both sides of cosmetic enhancement—celebrating the confidence boost of well-done procedures while cautioning against taking things too far. Through stories about friends who've had successful treatments alongside celebrity cautionary tales, they navigate the fine line between enhancement and excess. Listen in for a judgment-free discussion about looking good, feeling good, and determining your own beauty budget limits.
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Speaker 1:Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt. Good morning, another week is gone. Another episode ahead, I know, and it's bloody cold, still matt. Good morning, another week is gone, another episode ahead I know, and it's bloody cold still it's fucking freezing it is this week it's been like one degrees.
Speaker 2:Well, that's, that's and then feels like minus zero and 25. But oh, I'm breathing a bit heavy here, sorry that's all right.
Speaker 1:That's not more for you.
Speaker 2:You're breathing heavy I've got a bit of a cold coming, I think, I think anyway.
Speaker 1:No, stop being like that. I'm not. If you say it it happens, it does happen, it does Always Anyway. So, yeah, so like it was like one degrees here, here being Penrith, yep Right, and then I got to the city or in penrith, in penrith, but it was significantly colder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the city I don't know how that works because you are closer to the sea, so that might be the sea breeze coming across chilling things in the middle of the fucking city.
Speaker 2:There's no ocean around, normally, normally we are colder here because we're at the bottom of the base of the blue mountains and that's where the cold air drops. It was icy because warm air rises, cold air drops. So the cold air dropping off the mountains causes a lot more cooler effect in the area. That's why, with richmond and penrith, get colder areas you're listening to dave and matt with weather chat.
Speaker 1:Didn't come here to talk about weather day.
Speaker 2:Well, anyway, but it's been fucking cold, just definitely, like you know, meteorology day physics yep, I don't get any of that shit.
Speaker 1:I know I'm pretty, but yeah. So on today's episode we're going to chat about well, no, hang on, what are we going to do? We're going to do a weekly wrap-up first, aren't we then? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go quick. Weekly wrap-up.
Speaker 2:Let's go nothing. Oh look, I mean I've done a bit more on the house, which is good, so I'm literally about 95 96 percent complete inside. Yep, hopefully this week we'll get that wrapped up and then it's just all minor touch-ups and stuff inside, yeah, and then I'll be excited to start the front of the house, which is, to me, going to be the game changer for me aesthetically aesthetically?
Speaker 2:yeah, definitely definitely I've got to try and get the trees removed at the back. It's just money after money, after money, and you know I stress about that all the time.
Speaker 1:Yes, so if any listeners want to fund Dave, he'll do shit for you.
Speaker 2:Or just check out Matt's OnlyFans pay him a shitload of money and he'll give it to me.
Speaker 1:Yay, win-win, oh yeah, yeah, or we could just win a lotto, probably got that?
Speaker 2:no, we haven't. We fucking tried that as well.
Speaker 1:We did try that didn't win 100 million. Well, nobody's won at the moment because nobody's fucking come forward. We won 1995, as a group of us didn't we and then we reinvested that and won 11.70. So we're getting there, we're getting getting less and less. Next week we'll win four dollars um can't even play there, you go um. But all my week has been again working and unpacking. We went, we went to the club. Is there any reason why you're sitting there? I don't know, because my lips are dry. Well, stop fucking sulking around.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'll give you a cock and I'll fucking make a bit of noise.
Speaker 1:I'll give you a cock in a second. I already gave you one, but yeah, yeah. So my week's basically been unpacking stuff. It's good man.
Speaker 2:It's a house now, isn't it? It's a house, it's a house, it's very cozy.
Speaker 1:Oh, and one really exciting thing that we've done this week. What have we done? We've managed to work out or when I say we, it was a collaborative event, it was Because you did message me, try this, try this, try this, try this and I was already trying all that. I then we've actually got our podcasts set up to take calls, live calls so we can actually take calls and record them. Um, so we're ready to actually have listeners. So if you'd like to be a listener I'm sorry, a part of our podcast, if you want to be part of our podcast, yeah, anybody right, shoot us a message on on instagram and we'll arrange a time and a date and when it suits us both and we can actually do it, it'll be awesome. That also means that potentially, we can jump onto other podcasts.
Speaker 2:Finally, and we have got a couple that we are, we've got a couple that we'd love to do, we've got a couple that we'd love to hook up with and that, but yeah, so so things are getting better and better and better and I'm a pretty techie guy and we've reached the 50 podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're over 50 episodes now.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, we're established now, so that's really cool as well.
Speaker 1:That's exciting as well. So we've got lots of listeners.
Speaker 2:So thank you for listening Listeners from around the world like North Korea.
Speaker 1:I know North Korea Right. Shout out to North Korea. They Korea Right. Shout out to North Korea. They love you. Shout out to all our listeners around the world.
Speaker 2:It's just weird to see the demographics of people out there Two blokes two average blokes from the western suburbs of Sydney.
Speaker 1:Different backgrounds Well, you're originally from a completely different area of the world, obviously, but there are listeners in the UK too. Yeah, there's listeners in the UK. There's listeners everywhere. There's even listeners in the UK too. Yeah, there's listeners in the UK.
Speaker 2:There's listeners everywhere, even listeners in Mount Druitt. Yeah, absolutely yeah, so it's good. So that's down to you as well, all of you.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, thank you very much for spreading our podcast around and sharing it around and do that for more and more and more, and then we can retire and we'll never have money.
Speaker 2:We're never going to retire, are we? Everyone knows you don't make a single cent from podcasting and you can't sit still for two seconds without having to do anything. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, you're right, you can't. You're right, I can't, I can't, you're never going to retire. No, you might dream of it, but you never do it.
Speaker 1:I'd love to. I like the idea of In a different way, but we did.
Speaker 2:We went to the club as well. We went to see State of Origin, didn't we? Which was awesome, was it? I don't know, it was very cold. Remember we went down to Sears.
Speaker 1:It was fucking cold, yeah, but it's cold everywhere, it's always full of hot guys there on the fucking. State of Origin. Oh State of.
Speaker 2:Origin night's always full of beef. Yep, yep yeah.
Speaker 1:I did. We only watched the first. Did we watch all of them?
Speaker 2:We watched. Well, we were upstairs on the raffle, weren't we?
Speaker 1:on the first part, Did we watch all the?
Speaker 2:game then. No, we had to come home. Yeah, because it was fucking. Because you had things to do you were working and I had to go back and I had a few things to sort out before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my builders came the next day. Yeah, more like fucking wanked off. I didn't wank off. Maybe Probably did. Actually I think I did have a jerk, yeah well yeah, but that's not unusual for me. They said that something about like, on average, it should jerk off to keep you healthy 21 days a month, right, and I said, hey, I'm fucking super fit.
Speaker 2:You do that a day, don't you?
Speaker 1:You do 21 sessions a day. Oh, no, not that it would be red raw, but yeah, sometimes two or three. You have no testosterone left. Yeah, or your hair will fall out. Oh it is, it's too late. Anyway, this week's topic, dave. What are we going to chat about?
Speaker 2:We're talking about the cost of looking good, matt, and feeling good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, feeling good too, because looking good makes you feel good sometimes, and this is generalisation to everybody on the planet Earth.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:What about the aliens? Why are you being?
Speaker 2:exclusive. Okay, I'll include the aliens too. I don't know what the cost of them are.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, and how much Botox do they need? Or maybe they're supplying us with it. So we're just going to have a bit of chit-chat around it. Dave has done the investigative journalism side of this one and done all the deep dive surgery, and I'm just going to fucking wrap it on and put my two cents worth in, or when we're talking about cosmetic surgeries and stuff like that, it's never two cents.
Speaker 2:Well, I've just made up a generalization of like what the average person would normally look towards having you know I mean, and what they would like to have done. If that makes, sense so it's only covering a small percentage of what has or is out there should I say you know, I mean, and look how this topic came about.
Speaker 1:I guess is because as a gay community we are kind of obsessed.
Speaker 2:Well, I dyed my hair last night and I was like fucking hell. What have I done? I thought, no, it's too dark, that's not natural, I know.
Speaker 1:I dyed my beard as well, just as an FYI.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, okay, maybe I should stop. Yes, or maybe not go as dark, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, the thing is that, like it's, yeah.
Speaker 2:It.
Speaker 1:It's vanity and we're all very vain, Like I've had Botox for years now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it works. That's the good thing about it. It does, it does.
Speaker 1:It makes me look slightly smoother and younger and not as haggard.
Speaker 2:See, I'm all for cosmetic surgery when it's necessary and when it's not overdone. Yeah, exactly, when you just fine-tune yourself, it looks good, and also keeping within the parameters of your affordability as well, because that's where people can go so wrong.
Speaker 1:Oh, we can end up costing a pretty penny, so you know so. So, from my own experience, let's go with the simplest one first. Like botox, all right, because everyone and and and I talked to dave into actually having botox before we went on holidays.
Speaker 2:Yep, didn't need much convincing, but it sort of Look, I mean I was surprised. I was A surprised at the effect of it afterwards, yeah, but also I was also surprised at how much it does cost. Yeah, Because you had told me literally half the price.
Speaker 1:Well, look, in previous times I'd actually gone and it was like 500 bucks right from my full face. Now, again, again, I don't get flattened to beyond recognition. I get enough to stabilize my forehead right, just a little bit around my eyes so that I can still have some movement, but it actually corrects my lazy eye and stuff like that as well, and a little bit in the middle, because I've got a giant dint in the middle of my freaking head.
Speaker 2:That's where he has his cock stuck in it Pretty much, yeah, and that's where my ball rest is.
Speaker 1:Put your hair, your dimple, on your forehead, yeah and like so. They put a decent quantity in, but they put more in mine, didn't they? That's where I'm going. That's exactly where I'm going, and I can't remember how much it was this time, I think it was around $800 or $700 or $800, something like that which again lasted for a good six months.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you can stretch it out to seven, eight months and stuff like that, depending on how frequently you're having it done. Now I'm definitely due for a top up. I am overdue, but at this current financial status, I'm just I'm not. I'm not in that realm at the moment. So I'm just gonna take a little break for a while and then and then get back to it. But yeah, so, um, it's winter as well. It's winter, so I'm not going anywhere exactly. We're not on the beach. I'm hibernating. My, my face is already frozen, but yeah, so I've had it done for years and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But look, dave's first experience. Well, his first experience was he wanted to come and watch me get it done, right, but I was more interested in watching the dog, didn't you? Yeah, well, we got there and the doctor had a fucking giant bulge in his pants and Dave was busy watching. The doctor didn't even see a single needle go in my face. Holy, oh yeah, it was definitely a hot dog, yeah, and, um, definitely had a big bulge. And I'm sitting there kind of like focus, you know, you know how? No, you know how when you get a massage, yeah right, and you put your hands beside the table and they sort of go past me sort of like accidentally, on purpose, rub them, give them a little rub.
Speaker 1:I was thinking how do I do this with the doctor? Yeah, and with dave there as well? Yeah, and with dave there as well. We know you would have joined in, there's no denying about that he would have fucking instigated. He would dave, would have got my head and would grab his cock so I would have said what's that for doc?
Speaker 2:and he's like what I just put it to his cock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah where can I inject that? Yeah, but yeah. So Dave came along to view the first time around Yep, and then before we went on holidays we went to a different one, didn't we?
Speaker 2:We went to a different clinic then the second time because the nurse did it for us that time. Yeah, the nurse did it that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because that was the clinic that I'd been to previously, but I don't know, for some reason, why I went to a different one. Yeah, it was a cost as well, wasn't it? It was a cost as well? Yeah, oh, that's because I was getting Botox from that place. But I get Desport, which is the generic brand, which is perfectly fine, absolutely. It's significantly cheaper, but they end up putting double the amount in and it does kick in pretty much instantly as well.
Speaker 2:Yours was literally less than a few days much instantly as well.
Speaker 1:Yours was literally less than a few days, less than a day, sort of. You start to feel it all go nice and tight and it's such a good feeling, uh. But yeah, so we went there and, um, dave had his done and I had to wait, didn't I?
Speaker 2:because I mean, I had cataract surgery, hadn't I? They had to wait for me to have that settled so I had it done like a week before we went away on holiday, didn't we?
Speaker 1:Super impressed because and we'd go to- laser clinics at Penrith. I highly recommend them. I think Courtney was the girl that did ours, or Elise One of those we had the same nurse anyway but super impressed because they actually said to Dave no, we can't do yours today. You need to make sure that you're off your antibiotics and that your surgery is settled down and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So they're very, very professional with it, so it was really professional the doctor, like they do a bit of a telehealth examination with a doctor and all that kind of stuff and he says yay or nay, yep, and I was really surprised that they actually said no Yep, because I thought it was just a, oh, we'll do anyone, I get some money.
Speaker 2:But it is actually really, really good to see that they actually have morals and stuff like that, yeah yeah, um, but then dave got his done and pain factor oh look, I was it was just like short, sharp little, stingy little little pricks. Yeah, but again because she had, because I got quite thick skin. Now, um, and I haven't had anything done since I've got lots of wrinkles and frown lines and she said, oh look, we're probably gonna have to put you're gonna need a bit buddy I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I think she actually used even more than she thought she was going to use, just because she said, okay, well, we'll just make sure. And I asked her why and she goes it's because people like Matt and people like younger people now in their 20s are getting it done, because it stops the onset of these wrinkles appearing at midlife. So she said, had you had that done, you wouldn't need it anywhere near half, even a third of what you had. So she said, because you're a late starter, she said I need to inject more into it. And it worked. It said I need to inject more into it and it worked.
Speaker 1:It did work really well, didn't it I?
Speaker 2:mean they're coming back now, but I mean I've got to wait until I've finished the renovation, sell the house, and then I'll be able to afford to get it done. Yeah, um, but look again, it's something I know that I would do. Um, I mean I'd like to have a face, not a facelift, but you know the eye lifts. So you pull, you pull the skin back on your eye, just tiny yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 1:Dave's actually sort of grabbing the sides of his face and pulling him back. It's really quite amusing. So yeah, yeah, but look, it definitely works. Are there risks? Apparently, so there's like the droopy eye thing that you can get and stuff like that, but I don't know if it's actually as prevalent anymore.
Speaker 2:But it was weird because I asked you at the time what it felt like when you said this game was tightening, because to me I didn't know what the sensation was, but when it happened it happened gradually, but I could feel it sort of like on my face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel it pulling on your face, but it was like there's little hooks it was weird and they're getting wound in tighter and tighter.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be something really horrific, like it's going to just like tighten up and you're not going to be able to move anything. You know what I mean? No, but no, it was quite impressive and I was happy with it.
Speaker 1:It's a cool sensation too yeah, it was when you actually sort of go to the mirror and you go to lift your eyebrows and you can't.
Speaker 2:I would never have lip fillers.
Speaker 1:I don't see the point in them day I don't want to spoil them no, but yeah look, I'd have everyone know, as you said, if I did win a lotto, first thing I'd go is to a cosmetic surgeon. I'd go head to toe. No way I'd get everything done.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't let you have your lips done.
Speaker 1:I'd get toenails done and your eyes don't need to be done. He's got beautiful eyes, I don't need lashes um. I'd have, I'd have look, I'd get a square jaw put on, because I'd love a square jaw, you're masculine anyway.
Speaker 1:I don't think I like a square jaw, I think it's. I think it's cool, it is very masculine. I get a massive dong put on, obviously. Why do you need that? You don't want to walk around with it? Yeah, um, but it wouldn't be you then would it get six pack. Um, you'd be fucking someone with an artificial pecs. I'd getcs. I'd get fucking bicep implants. I'd have a liposuction tummy tuck yeah, I'd have lipo.
Speaker 1:Well, I've kind of had a tummy tuck. No, I haven't had a tummy tuck. No, you haven't. I've had gastric sleeve surgery and I was going to talk about that later but why not jump in?
Speaker 2:But you've never had skin removed from your stomach, like when you lost the weight. You didn't have that excess skin, no, even under your arms or anything, did you?
Speaker 1:No, I'm very lucky in that sense that I've always worked out, always had some form of exercise, so I think the elasticity in my skin has actually been quite good, mainly in the bed yeah, there as well. But I've always drank plenty of I won't say water because it's not water. I've drank plenty of fluid Semen, because it's not water. I've drank plenty of fluid Coffee, that's semen. Sometimes Protein shakes, protein yay. So I've always been well hydrated. Let's go with that. So therefore, I didn't really need to have the sleeve surgery like the aftercare.
Speaker 2:And you haven't also had medical conditions like diabetes or anything else, have you? No, I was pre-diabetic.
Speaker 1:I was pre-everything when I was heavier, so I've lost over 40 kilos, 44 kilos.
Speaker 2:That was years ago, wasn't it About five years, four years ago. But you've done well. You've kept it off, haven't you? I mean, you know you put a little bit on, like winter would be, but you lose australian weight, you're not?
Speaker 1:yeah well, through moving I've actually lost about three kilos I know I've seen you, you have lost weight. Yeah, three kilos. It's like, oh yes, I'm gonna move every week.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not fucking where I've gone from like losing weight after being in the hospital to put it back on again now. So I've got to lose it again. Sorry, you're still looking good, still looking good. Um, I just feel it. I know what my tight feel. My clothes start feeling tight and I think now I've got back off now yeah, well, no more no more biscuits. There's not biscuits for me, or lollies as much as chips.
Speaker 2:I love chips. I love potato products, I love them. Dave loves crisps and chips and chips and anything that's potato, potato, yeah. Or savory, savory and semen, semen, semen, yeah, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, I had my gastric sleeve surgery. Now that costs me. Technically it cost me around nearly 20K. Now, 15,000 of that came out of my super because it was considered to be life-threatening, yep. So I got the doctor to write a note and the doctor said please don't take this note as gospel, but this is what we have to actually write on here, yep, right. And he basically wrote that if I didn't have the surgery, I'd die, yep. Now the government sees thousands of these forms every day, yep. So they know that it's.
Speaker 2:But it's your money as well that pays me. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean yes, but I do get them trying to hold on to it because otherwise I'd see shiny things. I want to go and buy it all the time. Oh, you do we. We know that I'd be my super would be no, I worry about when matt retires.
Speaker 2:He'll have like one day of retirement and he'll be broke.
Speaker 1:I'll be back at work by the end of the week, I'll go, yay, retirement party. And then it'll be like the weekend will come and I'll go fuck guys when I come back.
Speaker 2:It's a part-time work.
Speaker 1:I've spent my half a million bucks already. It will definitely happen, we know no. This is why I'm actually mapping out a retirement plan now, right.
Speaker 2:He's going to get a caravan. He's going to park it on the side Me I'm parking on site. Make some meat pies.
Speaker 1:I'm not making meat pies, I'm just fucking going straight from glory hole to glory hole, you're gonna blow your way through society. You're gonna blow your money, I'm gonna blow cross country. Um, there you go, um no, so so I had my gastric sleeve surgery. It cost about, like I said then, almost the best part of 20k,000, almost Yep. So that was actually, I guess, a form of cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 1:Of course it is absolutely so, yeah, but I've gotten so much healthier because of it. Now, I don't know if you know listeners, but I'm a bit ADHD and so on the flip side of my gastric sleeve surgery, it was actually happening during COVID, so I had to buy some exercise equipment when exercise equipment was at a premium price so I couldn't get any in the stores because no one had it in stores. So I went on to places like gumtree and marketplace and all those places and bought it. And I bought all these weights that don't even fit on the fucking belt, the, the bars that I actually bought.
Speaker 1:Um, I bought because I couldn't find a workout bench. I bought, and for those of a demographic that are similar, like you'll remember, the steps that you're actually using the step classes at the gym, I bought like six of those and step them on top of each other and use those as a bench right to do my, my bench work, any, all that kind of stuff, my lifting and all that kind of stuff, my, my pushes and pulls and fucking all the exercise. I'm clearly a personal trainer here, um, but I bought all this equipment and used it, but then, when the gyms opened back up, I because I needed every piece of equipment you could possibly mention, obviously it wasn't just that.
Speaker 1:You just needed to have the the excuse to look at guys in the gym well, and then no, then I went back to the gym, but I actually went to a crossfit gym and I was doing like seven, eight crossfit sessions a week, right. So I have never been fitter than I was then, right, and it got really obsessive. I get the cult of CrossFit right. It's a cult, it's exercise which is really good for you, but it's cult-like. And everyone there was such a great community, right, and I felt so good, I looked so good, but it was actually a detriment to me because I wasn't seeing anyone else.
Speaker 2:but you became unhealthy as well, didn't you?
Speaker 1:because you got too thin as well, I got too thin, like I was down to like nearly 81 and a half, 82 kilos. You're six foot, I'm six foot two and I looked emaciated. Yeah, I didn't look good so I kind of stopped. I had to wind it back because a few people said are you okay? Right, and I didn't have the surgery so that I could be skinny. I had it so I could be healthy, and so now I try and get well. I've been really bad with the move and all that kind of stuff in winter, but I've sort of tried and get to the gym two, three times a week.
Speaker 2:You've also moved and you've also set up a new job and everything else.
Speaker 1:So I mean it's difficult.
Speaker 2:It's just a fine tuning period at the moment for you. Yeah, so I do try and get to the gym two to three times working. Dave, you got some gym stats on gym prices, yeah, yeah. So basically, I mean, one of the actual things I've got down here, matt, is types of things we do to look good and younger and fitter, and obviously gym membership is one of the top things that most people aspire to. Every year they put on their list and never go, never go, spend a fucking fortune. But the actual average cost this is the average is a basic gym is 62 a month per person, you know, and I can stack up, especially if you're not using it you know well, I think I pay 30 something dollars, 34 or 36 a fortnight.
Speaker 1:Fortnight, yeah, so it's about 62 ish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's about that. Yeah, so that's the average cost. You know, I mean this is all based in like australia, sort of like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah so um, that's what I've, but I I do try and use mine. Yeah, um, I try. Yeah, if not for the gym, for the sauna and the steam room again. I mean, you can go to gyms are far more expensive as well, depending what they've got there for you, depending on the facilities, facilities, like I know that… Atmosphere, atmosphere in Penrith, they're like fucking 60 odd bucks a week.
Speaker 2:They've got a normal one and they've got the superior one, haven't they? Because it's got the pool and stuff in it. So, again, it's all relevant to what you are after and what you're going to pay for Now, if you're using it or you get the government to pay for it or whoever else, your bosses or your work environment.
Speaker 1:We have this thing in Australia called Fitness Passport, which is for government employees and certain different groups. I'm not sure who's actually eligible for it, but it gives you it really cheaply and all then you've got to do is pay for your pass to enter these gyms, and it's really really good, really well priced, the good thing about a lot of the gyms as well is they're franchised, so you can use like fitness first and what's the other one? That's 24 hours, anytime fitness.
Speaker 1:But again, there's a downside to 24-hour gyms as well, because the cleanliness doesn't get done like you were saying yeah, well, look like I said one of the fitness firsts that I go to, or that I used to go to more. So, um, I went there and it's. It had three toilet cubicles, three bathroom cubicles with toilets in them, right, but there was one that still had its wall up, but there was one that had no wall separating the toilets, right, for about three months plus, right. So every time you'd go there, right, if you needed to use the toilet, you'd either have to wait for that one cubicle that had the toilet as it stood by itself.
Speaker 2:Right've been having to do it all the time.
Speaker 1:Or you'd go into one side. You'd have to make sure both doors were shut and you were just in there using one of the toilets and the other toilets then rendered completely not usable, or you'd take a shit in one and somebody walks in to go and sit in the other one and you've got no wall in between you, which never happened, obviously, but it was just like. In some cultures that's all normal. It was like fix the fucking wall.
Speaker 2:Like it's not that hard to put a wall up, and it's no excuse because you think you go to the gym to be safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, like I said, I'm paying like nearly $36 a fortnight and all that kind of stuff. So I've got lots of members that are paying the same sort of membership prices. To get a builder to come in and put up a wall is not that tricky.
Speaker 2:I know it's one of those things, anyway. So, moving on from the gym, what other type of things? I mean? We've mentioned Botox, matt. So the average cost of Botox which I've got down here where did I put it? Here we go. Okay, so the average treatment cost for Botox is anything from $130 to $700. Now we know that's slightly more.
Speaker 1:But again, it depends on what level you're coming in at.
Speaker 2:It depends on where you're having it done. You know what I mean. So, again, I mean that's just a ballpark figure. If you go over to Double Bay, you're paying a lot more. So all the cost things I'm going to mention are all stuff I've just googled online and just got approximate average costs. Okay, so, apart from those matt I mean, you've got things such as eye lifts, face lifts, butt lifts, chin lifts, boob jobs, teeth how much is an eye lift dave?
Speaker 2:so an eye lift would cost you. So I'll look on my thing. Okay, so it depends. You've got two types. You've got the upper eyelids and the lower eyelids, or you can have a combined. I wouldn't mind both. So upper eyelids are are anything from $4,500 to $8,000. Now I don't know what the procedure involves, so that actually sounds quite horrific. If you're going to be paying that much money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd want it to be a proper job. So the thing is yeah, you'd be looking at bruising afterwards.
Speaker 2:Well, again, I mean, everything is relevant too. The main cost of all these procedures, especially the bigger ones, are down to anesthetics, surgeons, hospital costs, et cetera, et cetera. So you have to take that into mind, into bear in mind. You know the cost of this.
Speaker 1:You have to factor in Some health covers will cover you for certain procedures as well. I haven't looked into that because there's no point. No cosmetic is ever covered under healthcare. No, nothing, not even your hospital admission, unfortunately. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah nothing at all.
Speaker 2:Um, so a lower lot. The lower eyelids are actually more expensive, I don't know why. Because there seems to be less of it than no, because it's saggy.
Speaker 1:It's the part that goes saggy like yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, their average costs are four thousand five hundred to fourteen thousand holy shit, I know right. And the combined cost if you have a combined upper and lower eyelid lift, it's between one sorry 15 000 and 20 000. Wow, I'm assuming that's for both eyes, not just I wouldn't hope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would hope. So yeah, fucking hell. That like. Could you imagine? I've only got 20k at the moment.
Speaker 2:You just do one, you know if you offset that, if it does work. I mean, if it's like a long-term thing, it's like 10 years worth of like you know it wouldn't be my lifetime. You're not going to have cosmetic surgery like botox and stuff around your eyes and that's going to save you money, so it's all relevant, isn't it? You know, you add it up and work out what you're paying relevant to your earnings as well yeah, exactly, and what you really want out of life, because we've seen some horrendous people, oh look.
Speaker 1:I've watched Botched maybe once or twice in my life.
Speaker 2:That's a good series Because I get scared I love those two doctors, those two guys are so good, I mean in terms of like their genuineness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I can't watch it because I think to myself I know that once I get my multi-million dollar win, I'm going to end up on that TV show, otherwise, yeah.
Speaker 2:I otherwise, yeah, can guarantee. So you know. Um, one of the biggest costs that we spend are on our teeth, and that's unfortunately.
Speaker 1:I mean dentists are so expensive to go to and just having just a basic removal of it like a tooth extraction, and I was impressed that it didn't cost me that much.
Speaker 2:Well, it did in relevance to what it is well I could have done it for one tooth.
Speaker 1:I could have done it home for less.
Speaker 2:But no, well, I'm is, but it's a necessity, you have no choice.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's not cosmetic treatment. We're going for because we want to have it look better. It's because we need to have that done.
Speaker 1:But I also where that could have been covered from a healthcare perspective. I've chosen not to put that on my private health, so you don't benefit from it Because I don't spend that much on dentistry no so therefore, I'd rather pay that $800 when I do need it, once every 5, 10, 15 years.
Speaker 2:But the sad thing is, if it was more affordability, then people would get it done on a regular basis and their teeth wouldn't go as bad as they do. Yeah, correct, but again, it's all about trying to keep people in that sort of like needs, I suppose. Yeah, correct, correct.
Speaker 1:The other things I've got down here, like I said, matt, are things, but we know. So dentistry yeah, like dentistry, there's actually a big overseas market. There is.
Speaker 2:Right. One of our friends has just been over, hasn't he? There is Right. One of our friends has just been over, hasn't he?
Speaker 1:Over to Vietnam to have his done, remember, yes, he has actually yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm not sure of the cost. We haven't spoken to him what he paid, but we know another friend of ours- A friend of ours paid quite a pretty penny here. A lot of people have used super to get it and the government again will let you do that because for your teeth teeth look amazing. Yeah, well, we know, we talked about him before yeah yeah, that's mark anthony. Mark anthony, yeah, and like I said, I mean you know he he's a handsome guy I was just so impressed.
Speaker 2:I just, you know, his teeth look amazing. Yeah, they look spectacular, they do, I mean. And he spent, I think he said, about 70k on his yeah, but then he went to a top specialist and he's got like reoccurring treatment going forward afterwards and he's like I think they're insured or whatever, and I mean to make sure that if anything goes wrong they replace them.
Speaker 1:He was sucking a dick in chips, I don't know what.
Speaker 2:I have never spoken to him about the length of the procedure and stuff like that, cause I mean it does take time. Like our friend that went to Vietnam, they had it done a year prior, so they had all the teeth removed and had all the um, the pegs and stuff. Then you have to wait a year for your mouth to heal up properly and then they fit the actual, proper um yeah, they take the mold, they do all that, they screw it all in.
Speaker 2:So it's not a quick thing, no, no. But you know, if you're going to go overseas and you know it's worth doing, you get a holiday out of it as well. Yeah, and it can work I mean my ex-wife when we went to Thailand.
Speaker 2:this is like 10, 15 years ago. She had crowns fitted and it worked out cheaper for her. I think over here they were going to cost us like $10,000. You know you're talking about 15 years ago, so that's still a lot of money then. And she got the x-rays done. We went to Thailand and we had the holiday for two weeks, we had the spending money and we had all her treatment done and it only cost us $5,000. So therefore, you know it was a win-win for all of us?
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely definitely.
Speaker 2:So I would say to people look around, look around, but don't just go to any dodgy person, because I mean, you know, you see all these horror stories?
Speaker 1:You do see horror stories. You do People having pig tent implanted? Yep.
Speaker 2:So the you know, the biggest thing that a lot of people do women-wise. They have boob jobs, all right, and that can be a very expensive thing as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they also can look great. So my niece had a boob job, right, and she had small boobs. She didn't have no boobs, she had small boobs, but she got them basically to match her frame, to match her frame, right. So basically what it did for her, apart from the aesthetically right it looked great, right, they look, they're great boobs, right. But it gave her a level of confidence, right, that was just unseen from her in the past, right, um so, but they looked fantastic. But also what it did was it got me really, really drunk and Dave's looking at me blankly as how do her boobs affect you? Well, when we went to my other niece's wedding in Fiji, she was in a bikini with her new boobs and she'd go up to the bartender and ask him for a vodka guava, right, and he'd be pouring, but he wasn't looking into the glass at all. So I got really long paws.
Speaker 2:I was shit-faced because of her boobs. I was expecting to see all the guys hanging around her and you getting drunk.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, just the bartender. He was just literally long pouring because he just couldn't take his eyes off her. Awesome, it was great, it was great. But look, boob jobs. If they're done correctly, right, they look amazing.
Speaker 2:But the other side. I mean you can get women that are very conscious of the size of their breasts, like my ex-wife. She had a brood reduction and luckily she had that done for the military and that was a good thing. But I remember her going through it and I was trying to talk her out of it because I felt you know, you don't need to have it.
Speaker 2:But she kept on saying that when she was being spoken to, people weren't looking at her face, they were just looking at her tits all the time, and she became very paranoid about it to the point where she felt that, you know, this was not what she wanted, again psychologically, you know, I mean, and I remember her having it done and it looked horrendous. When she came out hospital I picked her up and well, I just went.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm gay now I'm not, no, but it just looked absolutely horrendous. You know the pain, yeah, the pain, but also the actual scarring that was there initially, and the scarring healed it really well. But the sad thing is I think my sister's had a breast stop reduction as well and my mom but they grew back again, I mean over time, that the actual breasts have become bigger again, anyway. Okay, so you know, I don't know where to win, win. I don't know why it happens, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so I get my dick cut. Don't know, maybe if I get my dick cut it'll grow bigger. Well, should we try and do it? No, I'm leaving my dick. I'm leaving my dick. I like it.
Speaker 2:But anyway, the average cost going on to cost because we're going to run out of time, otherwise is between $8,000 and $20,000 for just a normal boob job. Yeah, again, so you get a bigger proportion. I think most people have those saline implants only these days. I don't know. I don't know, I've never thought about it.
Speaker 1:No, I've never thought about it. I don't know why I've needed boobs. But then you look at people like Katie Price, the UK model. Jordan yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, she's had like fucking 15,000 boob jobs and it's to the point where how big do you go? And it's ridiculous and I've seen some people that look, absolutely, there's a woman in the club.
Speaker 1:She had hers done and they're fucking huge, remember. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, but she looked good though.
Speaker 1:In my opinion she looked amazing, like I know you guys went oh, but if I was going to get, and she had had a lot of work done and I mean a lot, right, but I think that if I think she looks spectacular and I think if you're going to get work done, that's how you want to look, right, um, but it's too. Beauty is beauty, and and why you're getting the work is a question for you. Right the same, with any kind of work, whether it be cosmetic, injectables or or surgery in itself, is up to the individual to to work out why they want it and how they want it and how far they want to go. Yeah, but if you're going to do it and we all know that if I was a girl I would be getting it done you would, right, like I said to you guys. I said I'd be getting everything done. I'd be getting my snatch tightened every six months because I'd need it, because I'd be getting thrashed.
Speaker 1:Um, especially if I looked as good as she did, I'd be just lining up and fucking bending over and getting absolutely smashed to smithereens. So I'd need a rejuvenation, revagination, um, you loaf, doc, another stitch, he'd say. But I just did one and I'll say another couple. Then there you go. Um, you make me laugh, but yeah, but yeah, so yeah, boob jobs.
Speaker 2:So on the list of things I've got here, matt, I just want to ask what you would have done right. So I've got like Botox, which you know you had done An eye lift you said you would suggest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I facelift right, because the the thing is that, with pulling your hair back further onto your on, what I would have done and I don't know if this is actually a procedure is, even though, when I lost all my weight, the one area that I've still got like, I've still got a lump in the back of my head right, I've told you that's where you can get knocked out all the time.
Speaker 1:No, it's where people grab the head or from when they're doing me from behind, but it's like this little line in the back where my head is.
Speaker 2:So that's where the sling lies probably.
Speaker 1:I'd like to have that smoothed out. Um, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm sure they could do that. I'm sure they can do anything yeah, but I'd have that done, yeah, but I mean the. The actual price for facelift mac is between twelve thousand and seventy thousand dollars, average being 20k to 35k, depending what you haven't done. But again, I mean you look at some of these celebrities I've had done and they, they look really good some look amazing but other ones that they look so good beforehand and they haven't done, like mickey rook and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it. Just where do you stop? And it just becomes to the point where you can't and they look ridiculous, they look absolutely horrific. That woman, that's cat woman yeah she was beautiful beforehand. She was so pretty if you look at her pictures beforehand, because I was- doing it right the same with donia. Uh, dan, is it yeah?
Speaker 1:I mean sheulham-Sassi yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, she wasn't that bad looking, she wasn't great.
Speaker 1:She was never good looking.
Speaker 2:No, but she was better before she had the surgery.
Speaker 1:Far, far better.
Speaker 2:She's tried to make improvements, but that's what I'm saying People are making improvements but it goes wrong even more, yeah, and they look horrendous.
Speaker 1:It depends on what you're trying to achieve and your level of realism, and you do take guidance from a doctor when you're doing that kind of thing, I guess. But you're putting a lot of faith in somebody else's hands.
Speaker 2:But there's also a lot of great doctors out there as well.
Speaker 1:If you don't look properly, yeah, and do your research is the biggest take out, I guess, like nose jobs, all that kind of stuff, and your nose keeps growing. You do, I mean it does, and your ears, and your ears.
Speaker 2:And your fingernails and your cock and your boobs.
Speaker 1:No, there was another part that I mentioned a while ago. I can't remember what it was now, but it was a real surprise that it keeps growing as well. Your tongue? No, it wasn't your tongue.
Speaker 2:It was your ears.
Speaker 1:I can't remember what it was, but anyway. Your foreskin, your foreskin, mine stopped growing when it got cut off Anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go. That's cosmetic surgery Okay.
Speaker 1:Cosmetic surgery at fucking birth almost.
Speaker 2:Okay, there you go. Do that. Thanks, mum and dad, anyway. So, apart from the main cosmetic surgeries, everybody has haircuts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody has the want to have makeup nails and they can still be expensive over the time, you know. So so the average pedicure, manicure and all that kind of stuff and when I say average I mean a penrith, um yep so what?
Speaker 2:what would you have done? Would you have it monthly, would you have it by monthly?
Speaker 1:so, myself I've. I probably don't go as often as I want to Right, never been, because I just don't have the time. I know you're a pussy, you won't do it. Well, I buy my nails anyway, so there's no point in me fucking no it is. It makes them feel really good, it makes them shiny, it makes them glossy, it makes it like and if you have colour put on them as well, it makes your hair jobs look sexy you like that?
Speaker 2:oh wow, there you go.
Speaker 1:So good ones, dave, there you are but goes faster, um, like a lamborghini, like a little um, um. No, look I. I love a pedicure and a manicure because it just feels so good. The part that feels really good for a pedicure is when they're scraping all that crap off your feet, all that bottom stuff off your feet. Oh, I get it yeah, it's amazing, it's gross. You walk out and you go. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:But you had one in Singapore, didn't you? Yeah, I had one in Singapore Because I left you there, didn't I yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, but it actually look, it does feel really good, you, you feel really fresh after just a pedicure and manicure. Okay, and they can like. I've had some bad pedicures, Like before I went on Tipping Point, I went to a place in St Mary's and it was fucking horrific and I felt like they'd chopped my hands up and didn't do a very good job at all. I thought I could have actually done it myself at home and had a better result. And I was going on camera right where my hands needed to be Immaculate Immaculate because like Close-up shots yeah, Close-up shots of your hands pressed in a buzzer. So it was just like fuck, what am I going to do now?
Speaker 2:So I basically frantically got a nail file and got them down and moisturised daily and sitting there, and like I made sure I was hand ready, hand model ready, I was surprised I didn't get hired for hand modeling after that. Um, but yeah, anyway. So but yeah, just the average cost per person per month is between 30 to 160 dollars on mail stuff.
Speaker 1:So if you're having your nails done, yep, done, did, done with with gel tip, your Gel tip, finger extensions, nails yeah, all that kind of stuff or anything fancy Yep, you will pay obviously more, yep, but you've got to also get some reviews and work out where you're going. Because one of our friends, brittany, she's been to a couple of not so great places, yep, and they are obvious and it's really obvious. And, like the one, she's been to a couple of not-so-great places Yep, and they are obvious and it's really obvious. And the ones she's got at the moment are beautiful, beautiful, absolutely beautiful, really nice, kind of like a Tiffany blue.
Speaker 2:The thing is, I like the way that she does change the colours all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's really good yeah it's cool.
Speaker 1:I mean it does a complete opposite, completely different color.
Speaker 2:You're like what the fuck is wrong with me correct, but they do look nice and she does look after them so well. Yeah, I mean she was a bit pissed off the other week with her haircut she had because she was going to get it dyed, wasn't she? Or she was gonna, I don't know, I can't remember. She had a procedure done and it just basically just turned out to be just a normal cut and normal cuts for women are averaged between um 45 up to 175. But she paid 175 and she had nothing done. So she was very pissed off about it and I don't I don't blame her.
Speaker 2:I mean I mustn't have been there for that conversation, because women's haircut, even just the basic haircut, costs like twice as much as men's. Yeah, well, I don't know whether it's because of the length, but they don't have a lot taken off. I don't get it, you. I mean, is it because they sit and talk and drink coffee all day? I don't know. I don't know and that's not being stereotypical I don't know. I don't know what a women's salon is like. I've never been. I know they talk a lot. All I've seen is on TV shows, men's haircuts which you don't have to worry about as much no, but I did the other week you did?
Speaker 2:yeah, because I'm bloody saving, died. But the average men's haircut and I can confirm this is true is between 25 and 50, but I think more so if you're having a beard trim, it's like more like 50, because they charge you 50 for both, don't they normally? Yeah, yeah, um, but again, I mean, it's all relevant to what you want to look like, and I have have mine done every four weeks, so that all adds up. Yeah, you know what I mean. So you're talking, you know, over the year. You're talking a couple of hundred dollars just on haircuts a year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh, more than that, no, just on average, just the basic.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's $25 each time. Yeah, Makeup is a massive, massive amount of money.
Speaker 1:It's a huge industry Huge industry, dave and it's used from everyone, from, obviously, women. Yeah, men have it on. Men are now getting more into the makeup. I've got concealer that I wear frequently.
Speaker 2:Well, I think we've all got something in our cupboards that we use somewhere.
Speaker 1:And I was really pissed off because I couldn't find it and I thought I'd actually lost it. And it was my Tom Ford concealer. Right, and it cost me $85 for this tiny little stick of concealer and it was perfect, it was amazing.
Speaker 2:It's like the eye serums. You know what I mean. If you can't afford Botox and people use them, they're fucking expensive to buy, really expensive. How do they work? Not all of them Questionable, questionable, anyway. So the average price for makeup a year is $3,600. That's the average right, which equates to about $300 a month. I know drag queens spend way more than that.
Speaker 2:Well, exactly, but women in general can spend more Depends on what brand you're going for as well, if you've got a certain brand, if you're going to Sephora, right, they've got some quality shit, right.
Speaker 1:And if you're paying for quality, animal cruelty free, all that kind of stuff. But then if you're using products like Emco that you buy from bullies and stuff like that, it's just as good, absolutely. It's been given some really high praise in the makeup industry and again, it's a really, really good product, good quality product. I'm not sponsored by Emco, just as an FYI, but I know that I watch Glow Up, I watch Face Off, I watch all these makeup shows because I love reality TV, but Glow Up, their palettes that they use. I obviously watch RuPaul's Drag Race and Anastasia Beverly Hills. She's a massive sponsor of the show. That product costs a fucking bomb, right, so I'm in Crolon. All of those. They cost an absolute fortune to make up.
Speaker 2:There's two other things I didn't mention. So butt lifts as well. They're 9,000 to 15,000. Okay, I don't want to forget them because I've written them down. And the other thing is lip fillers. Lip fillers can be anything from 400 to 1,500 per treatment, with the average being 600 to 1,000 per millimetre.
Speaker 1:That says, or millilitre sorry, millimetre, millilitre, millilitre, I think, which is a tiny little amount, I know, right, a tiny little vial, however, if done correctly. So again, one of my nieces, right, not the same one with the boobs, but the other one right, she had lip fillers, right, and she didn't go overboard, she just had enough because, again, she thought she'd always had very thin lips, right, so she got them, so that they basically just pop them up a little bit, right, they're her own lips, yeah, yeah, but she got them done, just the right amount and looked amazing. She always was beautiful, anyway, but just a tiny little top up right, and it just looked amazing. Now, our other friend, miami. She used to get lips, she got a lot, but she would go excessive sometimes, sometimes and we'd go, hey, stop it. But she likes to look like a blob doll In a good way.
Speaker 2:In a good way she does. She's gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. I love it Stunning. We know that. But she knows how to treat her face.
Speaker 1:She's a beautiful woman. She's a beautiful woman inside and out. She's an expert in makeup as well. She is very good.
Speaker 2:And she looks good, doesn't she?
Speaker 1:She's sexy as hell. She's a selfie queen, isn't she? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she loves it. You'll go somewhere and people go. Where is she? I was about to say, I think, when she was lopping the tree.
Speaker 2:The other week she was there at the front of the tree. Yeah, correct, but she, like I said, she looks good for it and she knows when to do it and where to go and do it and you know how much is enough. You know, correct, correct, and she, she looks after herself really well.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so I think um looking good, feeling good. I think that pretty much covers well the last bit I've got here is clovered in fashion.
Speaker 2:Obviously I haven't done any research because it's all relevant to everybody else, but we must spend a fortune on shoes, handbags. I could go on, and on, and on and on.
Speaker 1:Well, I know I recently bought a pair of RMs for like 700 bucks RM Williams and they look good and they're comfy as hell.
Speaker 2:But how often are you going to?
Speaker 1:wear them, though, every single day.
Speaker 2:I wear them Even to work now. Yeah, why?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Sorry, I also wear my depending on what I'm doing for the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I wouldn't wear really good shoes to wear you. They're good shoes because they're comfy and they're hard wearing. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1:But I also wear my hockers. I bought a pair of black hockers as well, and they're comfy as hell.
Speaker 2:I suppose you've got to if you're buying things that you know are practical and they're good value for what they need.
Speaker 1:Yes, and they actually work out to be good value, because they're going to last me for a long time.
Speaker 2:I'm not knocking anybody for buying it, but what I'm saying is the cost that we spend on average. That's what I'm saying, is not. I know we'll be digressing, so we'll end up wrapping up shortly anyway. Yes, we're going to, but what I'm saying is you know, we all are guilty of spending money on ourselves, and that's a good thing. That's a good thing. How much we spend relevant to our earnings and how much we spend relevant to what we really want, and what we need is a debate unnecessary, necessary, necessary, oh fuck, why can't?
Speaker 1:I say necessarily necessity, right? Because I cannot in unpacking my house or into this house, I cannot physically fit everything in my wardrobes. No, so I'm going to have to cull again. Yay, I can't. I can't take a bite, because you have got five? Yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 2:But you just need to put them in a box, put them under the bed and just leave them, you know what I mean Until the next move. And then you'll say fuck, do I? Need this holding onto things sentimentally, or whether because we think one day we're going to fit into it or whether you know it's got emotional ties.
Speaker 2:It's stupid, I know, yeah, clothing, humans are fucking fucked up like that but looking good, feeling good, but look, I mean it's good, I mean it's. It's a big eye-opener for me looking at some of these prices.
Speaker 1:But I knew that some of them were my take is the other thing as well. Tattoos, oh my god, stop, let's not.
Speaker 2:But what I'm saying is I mean there's so many things that people can do which is classified as looking good looking good, and that's good, you know, I mean so you know, and you don't knock yourself for doing it, but please, I would say, to be responsible for where you stop and draw the line and what you need, what you relatively need I'd say if it makes you feel good, do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at what cost, though? Whatever. Whatever, if it makes you look good, yep, and feel good. More importantly, the good thing is we're all guilty of doing something or other.
Speaker 2:You know, and that's the good thing about it. So we're living life and yeah, good on the industries for making the money out of us yep, all right.
Speaker 1:so, looking good, feeling good done, yay, all right, all right. Now our regular segment, our, our newest edition of regular segment. Fuck, that's hard. Thanks to Denny Boy who suggested that, and his show should be not too far away. Yep, looking forward to it, denny. Yep. But yeah, is Icks and Peeves. Icks and Peeves. So, dave, you can start off this week. Okay, icks and Peeves. Ics and peeves. So, dave, you can start off this week. Okay, x and peeve, what are your x slash?
Speaker 2:yeah, so my first ick or peeve is people pushing in the queues so give us an example people pushing in like line for food, for food or concerts, even worse, where you're queuing up and someone just fucking walks in front and they're going to stick in front of you. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, you know what I share, this peeve right, but you know where I share it the most and it really grinds my gears. Where's that Is if we're in line for raffle tickets.
Speaker 1:Oh, right, yeah, yeah yeah, and there is just say, somebody is in front of us with a friend yep sorry, somebody's in front of us, and so I've sat there and I've calculated exactly how many, what numbers you want, what numbers I want, but all of a sudden one of their friends walks up and then they also buy raffle tickets. So I get pushed back. So I think that could have been my fucking winning raffle tickets, and then, if they get drawn out, you should see me fucking steam. Right, it just goes. That was my fucking ticket. You know it works well, though, when it works, then you do when it works in my favor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it works really well. Yeah, you could even push it in. No, but pushing in just generalization. People pushing in, I mean some people inadvertently push in but they don't realize they're doing it, because they don't know where the fucking cues are, because they can't fucking look dumb yeah, dumb uh, but most of the people. There are certain cultures which I'm not going to main anybody because at the end of days we're not, we're not, we're not sort of like that sort of people, that sort of like dub on people, but but there are certain cultures that do have a natural clueless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just think that they're entitled to be in the queue before you and that fucking grinds my fucking gears.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah so yeah, but so I get, I get that.
Speaker 2:I'm all right with swearing, yeah, but I realize I swear a lot on this podcast, do you? Yeah, I don't listen back.
Speaker 1:You know that I do. I say cunt all the time in real life. Um, but anyway, um, but yeah, but definitely is. That definitely is a pet peeve of mine as well, and I think many listeners will freaking assimilate with that pushing in thing. Okay, so what have you got? So I've got one that really bugs me. Right, because escalators, travelators, whatever you call them, they're not, they don't have a fucking stop sign at the entry, all right, but what when you're getting on or off? When you're getting on and off, they don't have a stop sign so you don't step onto this thing and you don't just stand still.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to get. They're there to help you make your journey quicker, so you're meant to carry on walking yeah, You're meant to carry on walking right, especially travellers at the airport.
Speaker 1:Right, yep, they're there to get you there quicker. They're not actually utilize to take you there. Right, and it really bugs me, right, so it bugs me when people don't walk on them. Right, so this is a double p, almost right, but bugs me when people just don't continue walking. Yeah, but what really bugs me is when you're on there, you're supposed to. If you're going to stand still like a fucking moron, keep to the right, keep to the left right so people can make their way down the right. But there are lots of people. They just stand there side by side with their friends and I always go excuse me, and they just look at you as if to say how fucking rude. And I'm thinking, no, you're just a dumb, fucking cunt. Um, that won't move to the left right, just move to the left, all right, it's really not that hard or when you're in a shopping centre and the fucking escalator.
Speaker 2:One way is not working. You've got to go fucking traipsing down. How?
Speaker 1:far. No, the Penrith one always shits me to tears because it never, ever works and you've got to go one side works, one side doesn't, so just turn it off. So people can walk up and down it instead it's really not that hard. But also, the one thing that really does my head in but it's not a peeve, it just confuses me is when I step on an escalator, and it's not working and it's not working and you feel really weird and you feel like you're going to walk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a strange sensation. I think our minds are there, probably thinking it's going to move. Yeah and it doesn't, and you just stand there and you think what's going on? It feels really weird, even walking up it then doesn't it yeah. So bloody move to the left right people Move to the right, jump up and down and turn around, or I'll fucking push you right I will push you down that escalator as well.
Speaker 1:But yeah, All right.
Speaker 2:Talking of places like the plazas and stuff like that and shop centres. Next pet peeve of mine is kids screaming in places where parents don't do anything about it. I can't stand the sound of fucking screaming kids. I mean, I don't know my tolerance of level of noise and like I said last week it's just gone, fucking I'm very old now in that regard.
Speaker 1:It seems too cranky on me and trendy.
Speaker 2:Oh fucking hell, it just grows. It grinds me, it does grind me and screaming kids, their parents just there and they're letting them running around screaming and doing whatever they're doing. Yeah, I'm just thinking control your fucking kids right now. Put it back in its cage, yeah, or throw it out the window. One of the two, or muzzle it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, again, parents get really badly looked at when they have them on those leash things, whereas I think a leash and a muzzle is fine. We do it to animals, don't we? We do it to our dogs. Our dogs don't bark as much as kids scream. No, my girls don't. They're good girls most of the time. So that's a little one of my pet peeves. What did I write there, dave, let me have a look at your writing. Oh my God, Good luck if you can fucking read it, the bottom one.
Speaker 2:What the fuck it looks like Kinky Boy. Oh, the toilets in the urinals washing hands.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the hand washing. That's what it says. I can clearly read that.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:Kinky Boy used to be. I don't know what I've written. Hand washing All right, men. I don't know about women because I don't go into the women's bathrooms often but men, even if you've gone for a piss, wash your hands, right, it's not that hard, right? If you've gone for a shit, definitely wash your hands. I think we went through this in COVID, where they sat there and they taught every human on the planet how to wash their hands. Just wash your fucking hands, it's not that hard. I sit there and if I see a guy in there with his child, right, and he's walking out and he's not teaching his child, I want to go. Oi, like, you know what? Are you raising a fucking neanderthal? Yep, right, like, because I'm thinking to myself that kid's never going to learn.
Speaker 2:I would understand if the sinks weren't working or there was no soap or there was nothing else, but even washing with water is better than nothing.
Speaker 1:Water is actually proven to be like. From a food safety background that I've been part of, washing your hands with water alone is perfectly fine. Yep, right, it is because we did this whole spray, like your hand with the bacteria kind of thing, as part of a food safety thing, and people will wash with water and with soap and it's just as effective.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's marginally less effective. It doesn't compute to me why they just walk past it. It's there, it's right there. They have to walk past it anyway. I really don't understand either. And then you think they're going out there pushing the door handles, touching everything else, and then we're following them afterwards and we're fucking getting their fucking dirty, stained, fucking fingers or stained fucking hands everywhere. I mean like don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:I've had random dicks in my mouth and everywhere I know. But what I'm saying is but like, just wash your hands, yeah exactly Wash your fucking hands.
Speaker 2:I've got one more to wrap it up with. Yep, no, I've got one more for you, have you? Okay, good man. The other one is when people are out walking their dogs and they let their dog shit on the path or shit on the garden and they've got no common sense to pick it up, or they just look around and just carry on walking. Yep, that's gross. That pisses me off. That's gross.
Speaker 1:And I would never. Okay, I would never. Oh, he's a get-out-of-jail-free card, right.
Speaker 2:No, but what you've done in the past is that it's in scrub land and it's like runny poo and you can't pick it up.
Speaker 1:If it's runny, I would get stuff up and throw it over the top, so that at least people aren't going to step through Like an animal would do in the wild. Correct, but you wouldn't leave it in the pathway.
Speaker 1:You wouldn it in the pathway, you wouldn't leave it in front and if the if a dog does shit, you know we pick it up. 95, I pick it up all the time. Yeah, unless it's like really runny and it's going to be impossible to pick up. Yeah, and that's very, very rare for my girls because they have a really good diet. Yeah, um, but like, yeah, if it's very runny, then I'll sort of get dirt and fucking leaves and pretty much bury that but it's when they, when they look around and you can see them look at you and you think and they just walk off.
Speaker 2:And you think you fucking dirty cunt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, would you shit on the fucking lawn? They probably would looking at them. They probably would looking at them.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so yeah, that's definitely a pet peeve of mine as well, and I know lots of people share that, especially the councils, because they put fucking signs up everywhere, yep. So, yeah. So my last one is a pet peeve that I know you can definitely relate to. Right Now, if I'm getting ready for sexy time, right, if I'm thinking to myself I want to hook up with somebody, right, one of my biggest pet peeves is not being ready as in, clean, right. So if I'm thinking to myself because I'm verse, right, pet peeves is not being ready as in clean, right, right, yep. So if I'm thinking to myself because I'm verse, right, if I think there's a chance that I'm going to get fucked today, right, like any day, right, every day, every day, I'll make sure that I've douched and prepped and made sure that I'm ready.
Speaker 2:I think your bum is the cleanest bum in the world, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yay, no, I'm joking, no, but I will make sure that I'm ready. Yeah, so it really annoys me when, if you're going to a sex on premises, for example, right, a sauna, church, whatever- you want to call?
Speaker 1:it Been to a couple, been to a couple right. And you go in there and you might feel like today you're going to top right, so you're not going to get clean, right, which I still clean, even if I'm going to top right, just in case, just in case, right, just in case, right. But then if somebody starts playing around and you're thinking, oh okay, I'll just let them in, no, don't let them in. Say no, right, it's really that easy. Say no, sorry, buddy, I'm let them in. Say no, right, it's really that easy. Say no, sorry, buddy, I'm not ready, right, it's really that simple. They're not gonna get angry at you or whatever, because it's consensual anyway, right.
Speaker 1:But fucking douche, like, it's not that hard. A bit of squirty water up your clacker away, you go nice and clean, easy. It's not a long and arduous process, so it's just not that hard to be clean and ready for sex, right. And I get that there's always going to be a little bit. If you're playing in the backyard, there's going to be a bit of dirt, right. So I get that occasionally it's going to be a little bit, yep. But I guess in recent times I've been to the sauna Church Church and fucking fucked somebody and it wasn't a little bit of dirt, it was just like full on and it's just like, and then that puts me off.
Speaker 1:It puts me off for the whole day.
Speaker 2:I sit down and go like, and the thing is, people get UTIs from that as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you can get it in your so, it in your japs eye and it goes up and it infects your fucking bladder. Yep. So yeah, pet peeves, and that's the same for everybody, with women as well. Yeah, because you know blokes.
Speaker 1:Well, no, well, women pegging blokes.
Speaker 2:They should do it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, women, pegging blokes, definitely Blokes. Douche yourself ready. But like even I think, when I was talking to one of my girls Miami, you know who you are she didn't know a lot about douching but she said, funnily enough, she's never shat on somebody's dick.
Speaker 2:She said that she knows of right.
Speaker 1:So I said oh, so most guys will just take that anyway, because they don't get in often enough from straight girls. So yeah, Straight girls. So yeah, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's pretty much it. I mean I've got no more eggs at the moment. Well, you've got a fucking list, we've got to stop this session because it's going to go too long.
Speaker 1:Yep, but yeah, that's been our session for today. Our looking good, feeling great, I Feeling great.
Speaker 2:I hope you all do feel good and look good too. Yeah, spending a little bit of money is good, yeah, but spending excessive money on Ford is not so good. Go wild, fuck it.
Speaker 1:That's what I say, absolutely All right. Well, I've been, if you want to contact us for any topic that you'd like us to cover off.
Speaker 2:How do I do that? Dave, you can contact us on our social platforms, any of them. Fully Grown Homeless yeah, mainly Instagram with you, because you like your Instagram. Yep, yeah, we have got an email fullygrownhomelesspodcast at gmailcom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can email us there, but obviously socials are probably easier yeah, and if you'd like to be a guest, hit us up on our socials, yeah absolutely.
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