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Speaker 1:Nothing is off limits, so email us on the Fully Grown Homos podcast at gmailcom or message any of our socials Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt On today's episode. Dave, we're going to chat about a few different things again. We're going to talk about theatre, friends and some fun, and then we're going to cover off some topics as well. So, what have we up? What have you been up to? Well, what we've been up to. Yeah, I was going to say not what.
Speaker 2:I've been up to. We've been up to so since yesterday. We went to the city. We did which we love going to the city. We did which we love going to the city we did. We went and seen Hadestown. Yeah, and if you've never heard of Hadestown, it's a very dark, dark but very enjoyable musical. Yeah, one that I. What's your review, dave? Oh look, I mean the whole storyline was completely different to what I thought it would be. I mean, I was in the whole storyline was completely different to what I thought it would be. I mean I was in the expectation of having all these underworld gods, these Greek gods, come into play, like Zeus, medusa and all this lot, but it wasn't. It was all based around Hades. Oh, hades, who is the god of the underworld, the king of the underworld, who is essentially sorry, oops, sorry essentially the devil, yeah, and that's why it was very dark, but it was amazingly sung. I mean the performance was absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 1:The cast was sensational. The vocals were sublime.
Speaker 2:I think it would have been better if it had been a bigger stage, because it would have been even more dramatic, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't mind the compact stage because it was have been even more dramatic, if that makes sense. Yeah, I don't mind the the the compact stage, because it was at the state theater. Yeah, I've never been to that one, so it's a very small state theater so, oh, the stage actually has a lot more space than they actually utilize, so it is actually a bigger stage than than they actually utilize. But the way that they'd set it up it was actually meant to be quite compact and quite um, it worked well.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it would have been, I think, for me, having gone to other musicals with you and other friends and stuff like that and seeing different stages well, a lot of them are really bright and fun and light and stuff, and this is anything but that. Yeah, that's why, again, I mean, it was a very different dynamic, wasn't it you?
Speaker 1:yeah, it was dark, and I mean dark as in the tones of the musical, but also the actual physicality of it, the visuals. Yep, it was a very dark situation and I'm a bit of a battery hen, so you put me in the dark and I kind of nod off.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I did as well. I mean, I think because it was very warm in there yeah, it was very, very warm but also because I didn't sort of like pick up on the the, the actual scenes and stuff. Initially I didn't know what the storyline was about until no exactly, so I I sort of didn't have that initial grasp. I'm the same with films as well. I mean, if I go to a film and it doesn't grab me literally straight in the first 15 minutes of it, I'll start drifting and start falling asleep. Yeah, not because I want to, just because I haven't got that mental stimulation from it.
Speaker 2:It's not there, it's not jumping out and I felt myself doing it, I mean, but luckily for me I didn't snore or you didn't wake me up telling me I was snoring as usual, you know, I mean um, so I knew I was awake, but it was just like I found it very difficult to start with, but otherwise it was fine I enjoyed it, would I go and see it again?
Speaker 1:no, um, look, I listened to the soundtrack for about five minutes prior to going and I stopped myself because I wasn't going to enjoy the soundtrack. Now the soundtrack, the lead is actually sung by a male, but over here it was actually performed by Christine Arnoux. I'll show you one of her clips later. She sang my Island Life.
Speaker 2:She was a narrator wasn't she.
Speaker 1:She was a narrator, basically Hermes Hermes, hermes, not Hermes. It's a handbag like it's a clothing label, but yeah, and I thought it was actually way better sung as a female. So I think she did a stellar job. The cast was. The person that played Ulysses was her voice was amazing, fucking.
Speaker 2:She was Asian, wasn't she? But she had such an angelic, amazing voice. Her voice is so beautiful.
Speaker 1:Like I said, the vocals in the whole cast were just sensational absolutely absolutely sensational. It's so beautiful. Like I said, the vocals in the whole cast were just sensational, absolutely sensational. Can't fault that. What about Hermes himself? You mean Hades? Hades, sorry, fuck me, he had a big, so his voice was a low baritone.
Speaker 2:What did he look like, Matt?
Speaker 1:Sexy, tall, bald, tattooed, fit fucking. And I was just sitting there and when he sung he sung in a real low voice. A bit like Ray said, fred Rodney yeah and I just pictured these big low hangers on him because I just thought to myself he's going to have a real nice set of balls with a voice like that.
Speaker 2:It was just so. He suited his character so well, didn't he? It was good.
Speaker 1:It was brilliantly cast. Like I said, it was a great show. It was good, it was brilliantly cast. Like I said, it was a great show. I enjoyed it. I just wouldn't see it again, but yeah, but really enjoyed that. But the company was fun.
Speaker 1:The company, the friends that we went with. So I haven't seen some of our friends for a while and I've met them for the first time. Some of them and Dave has met them for the first time, and Dave and Josie, they're actually having a baby, which is really exciting, yep, really exciting. I'd heard a lot about them.
Speaker 2:You told me, you'd seen them, you heard a lot, because they're both awesome people Yep, fantastic people. That definitely resonates. When I met them last night, clicked with them straight away, had great chats with them straight away.
Speaker 1:So they're fantastic and always good to catch up with. Um, with franny and dick, with franny and dick and um, and then our other friend as well, ali ali, um, like, yeah, they, they were, um, they were great to catch up with, always a good, fun crowd to go out with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, beautiful people dinner at the ship in first which was beautiful. The conversation always flows with these people always, it's never a quiet never stop talking them. And you can just go from one person to the other and just jump into a conversation.
Speaker 1:You turn around and you're on a different conversation. You turn the other way. You're on a different conversation. You cross the table, you're on a different conversation, One up and there you go it's always good.
Speaker 2:And it's just very beautiful about the conversations we have. It's all positive, but also very caring as well it's caring, it's nurturing. There's a lot of love between everybody on that table, isn't there? Yeah?
Speaker 1:100%, for sure, 100%. So look, friendship is important and doing fun things like the theatre I love the theatre as we all know.
Speaker 2:But what else did we do, Matt? We didn't just go to the theatre, did we?
Speaker 1:No, we went for a bit of a pre-game to church.
Speaker 2:We went to fun, didn't we?
Speaker 1:We went fun. We went to a pre-game to church. Now we went to. For anyone that doesn't know church, it's a sauna or a sex-on-premises club, basically, now, if you don't know church, this must have been the first episode you're ever hearing, because we talk about church.
Speaker 2:Quite a time we met at church, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm playing footsies with Dave under the table there. We did a bit of that last night too, but yeah, we went to church last week as well. Yeah, we went to the old one we used to go to, which was Arrows. Yeah, and we convinced ourselves that we weren't going to go there anymore.
Speaker 2:We say that every time, don't we? But because it's convenient for us in terms of location-wise. But this time I think I'm gonna hold us to it because it's just it's horrible, just shit.
Speaker 1:Like we got the job done in the end, right, but you're there for like it's too long.
Speaker 2:There's the talent level and it's not pretty much nothing there is, yeah it's just like, but it's not a clean facility.
Speaker 1:It's it's very disjointed, disjointed, boring. It's just like, but it's not a clean facility. It's very disjointed. It's disjointed Boring. It's just it's not Rundown, it's rundown. We all compare. It's just got nothing going for it. Unfortunately. It could be a great venue.
Speaker 2:The location it could be.
Speaker 1:If they spent money, if I had the money, I would go in and I'd say, all right, just give it to me. Like you know, here's half a million bucks, fuck off out of this venue and give it to me, and they'd probably take it as well.
Speaker 2:They'd probably be overestimating, I think, as well. I mean the people that I'm led to believe I don't know them personally, or I don't know them.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's a straight couple that own it.
Speaker 2:Two straight couples. They don't have any sort of connection really with with the community where the gay world is, and hence the reason why it's going more swingers based that one as well, and you know the gay community is being pushed right back into the corner to the point where it's basically the residual sunday afternoon. Yeah, and it used to be full-on, didn't it, you know? I mean, it used to be pretty much for gay people.
Speaker 1:It used to be yeah, it used to be um an event. They used to have different things there, but now apparently they have strip shows on a saturday night again, catering to that straight audience which is fine, absolutely right but just then say all right, gay guys, you're not welcome here anymore but even on the day.
Speaker 2:So they have the gay one, which is only one day now, on a sunday, and it's just understaffed yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Um, there's no one there to clean. Um, the one guy that was always awesome and friendly. We haven't seen him there for so long. It's not funny.
Speaker 2:Um, so we don't even know but then we haven't been doing a job no, we, we haven't.
Speaker 1:We haven't, honestly. But like we did, we were chatting to some people that we knew there and they said that a few weeks prior they'd actually brushed and the washing machines had broken down. So they were actually handing out one towel and saying that's all you've got today. Um, like they hand out you can't do that when you go in there, like most venues, will have condoms on the walls so that you can basically help yourself as you're going around, right you know?
Speaker 1:and they're free to the events and they're free, like they get them from acorn and places like that, whereas this place hands you two as you walk in. Now, two is one if a one wasn't yeah, this time okay, yeah well, and I don't use them anyway however it's not the point, but the thing is that if you're a married guy and you're going there to be inconspicuous and stuff like that, you're not gonna ask you know they've also noticed in as well.
Speaker 2:Most of the lube containers have been removed from the walls. Yeah, there isn't any. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's not any around there at all. And I know that could be down to the fact that that time where that person had that vendetta and he was putting chloric acid inside the yeah, I don't know where that was that was a know. If that was, I don't think, I just think that they're broken and they're just taking them off the wall because they're fucking easy and lazy.
Speaker 1:Exactly that's right, but yeah so that's not our venue of choice. However, we did go to a fantastic venue last night or yesterday afternoon, and then again last night.
Speaker 2:We went to sydney steam last night and that was great, like we went there during the day.
Speaker 1:first we went for a bit of lunchtime and we had some fun there with but again, I mean I think different days, different times, yeah, equal different people and different dynamics. Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2:And we saw that yesterday. We saw that first thing yesterday.
Speaker 1:So we went just after lunchtime. We got there, yep, and we spent a few hours there before we actually went off to the show, yep, and we did have quite a bit of fun with some guys there um, but they were the first time I've ever fucking. I literally blew my load because somebody was putting their tongue in my ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was really hot actually and it fucking made me come just by that was in the steam room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never come from somebody rooming me before okay so that's a new experience for you, isn't it? Holy fuck, but yeah but again the clientele.
Speaker 2:How would you describe the initial clientele on the first part?
Speaker 1:on the first part. Okay, it was varied and it wasn't as busy. It wasn't as busy, but it was probably more people our age, I think. Yeah, um, and sort of it was a variance of some of the older generation and stuff like that, but there was a few scattered throughout that are a bit younger in that as well. Well, I would say I would say that people were between.
Speaker 2:It was a more 40 to 70, I'd say, in that period and it was a more interactive audience at that first part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, when we went back for round two right after the show.
Speaker 2:So we got there about 11 o'clock yeah, yep, just before 11 and we stayed there until about half past one, didn't we? Because we were so tired.
Speaker 1:But it was just lots of really hot guys walking around with fucking huge cocks Demographics age-wise Probably like 20 to 35.
Speaker 2:Was it average age? Yeah, you still had other people there as well. A few older guys were there as well, like us. But there were other people there as well. Yeah, there was a few older guys in that there as well, like us, but they were just smoking hot. They had the bodies, they had the cocks, they had everything going with them, the dicks.
Speaker 1:There was this one guy there and I was just like holy fucking. Everyone else thought the same because he was just like this six foot two Blonde. No, no, the really lean bald guy with the big beard.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, yeah, the one that people just followed around.
Speaker 1:He was just beautiful, the nicest arsehole and a nice-looking cock as well. But he was just sexy as fucking. Everyone in the club thought the same, because they were all following him. And then you had that other guy.
Speaker 2:that was initially, oh yeah, the little blonde guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the blonde guy, he was a good-looking guy. He was a good-looking guy.
Speaker 2:And he had a soft cock and it was probably about 10 inches, big, 10 inches and fat. But people he was walking around naked without a towel and that's not the norm. Most people walk around with their towels. It's not frowned upon to walk around with a towel.
Speaker 1:No, if I had a dick that big, I would too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was obviously showing people because he knew he had a big dick. But the sad thing is, I mean, when you're standing around, people aren't actually going to want to touch you, or or go up and then he would just push people away and he was like what's the point?
Speaker 1:it's like you're just putting it all on show but didn't want anyone to touch it.
Speaker 2:And I get it to some degree, but I don't, because if you're going to go there and show off, then what's the point?
Speaker 1:you know you're just gonna get involved yeah, like, and that's the thing with the second part, was that there?
Speaker 2:was a lot of people walking around. There's a lot of pretentiousness going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was. But there was also a lot of people walking around thinking I can do better, I can do better. What about the other guy?
Speaker 2:that was there when we were there first time in the afternoon and he was just sitting on this seat.
Speaker 1:He sat on the seat when we were there in the afternoon and we came back, and we come back and he was sat there for hours and hours and hours, from the start when we walked into the end, when we basically walked out and he would do nothing. He was just sitting there, didn't do anything, didn't engage with anyone, didn't get up and try and suck somebody's dick. Didn't get his dick sucked by anyone I don't think he was on something.
Speaker 2:He definitely must have been.
Speaker 1:Yeah and that's the thing is that, like this venue has actually worked really, really hard to try and be drug free and and they have and it's good we were chatting with somebody in there and they said, like they've got rid of a lot of the drug dealers and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:They're all gone, they said. But unfortunately if somebody's taken something you can't sort of stop them, because they don't usually present that. They're off their head until they're sort of in there, and then when they do find them they do get rid of them pretty quickly as well. But look, that was a fun night out.
Speaker 2:That was a fun day. It was a good day out. Yeah, it was great fun. We do like going to the city, don't we? We do. It's always fun when we go to the city.
Speaker 1:We do, and there's different people, different venues, different venues. So, yeah, but yeah, it's always fun, it's always fun. That's pretty much what we got up to, yeah, and um, dave. So here's a new fan, this is a new segment that we're going to do and it's going to be called bizarre facts of come some kind. It's not come kind, um, but we'll do a come one definitely. Yeah, but we'll do. We're going to do today, our bizarre facts today, and sometimes they'll be gay facts sometimes they won't be.
Speaker 2:Well, it's just going to be a random thing. I mean it's just going to be a random thing, I mean it's just going to be different topics. It's just stuff that we've searched on the internet.
Speaker 1:Stuff that people have brought to us, stuff that people have sent to us, and if they want to send anything to us, you can send. If anyone wants to send anything to us, you can send it via our Instagram.
Speaker 2:Any of our socials, any of our socials, but mainly our instagram.
Speaker 1:It's fully grown homos podcast um, but you can send our email fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom. Um, but yeah, but today we're actually going to talk about bizarre animal facts, because there's so many out there. Yep, so I'm going to let you kick off, dave, with your bizarre animal fact first, okay I'll just have a quick drink, okay, while you're doing that, I'm gonna read out.
Speaker 2:So my bizarre fact on number one is male giraffes. Now, did you know, matt, that male giraffes prefer other male giraffes who doesn't exactly, but I didn't know this. But up to 94 percent of observed male giraffe I'm sorry, observed giraffes fully Sexual time is male on male necking, literally, sorry, literally, and sexually. Long necks, long lovers, long affairs, it says. Okay, so there you go, so there you go. I never knew that giraffes were sort of like very gay orientated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, with those tongues and those necks, because they've got huge tongues, yeah, that's right, and they've got pretty pretty eyelashes. So it checks, it makes sense, like giraffes are pretty.
Speaker 2:But they've also got long necks. That means they can each other's bums, doesn't it? Yeah, and With those tongues, can you imagine that Can?
Speaker 1:a giraffe deep throat.
Speaker 2:another giraffe I wouldn't say deep throat, Like but oh, I don't know, do they lick their own balls? I've got no idea. I don't know. Do they lick each? Other's balls who knows I need to do more research onto giraffe facts yeah well, there you go. Okay, let's make it known. If you know, let us know as well, because we'll be addressing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've just basically got little snippets here. Here are the snippets. But yeah, giraffes are gay, gay as fuck. Another gay animal fact is flamingos. Gay flamingos adopt babies. Male flamingos have been caught forming long-term couples and even stealing eggs to raise them together. They're fierce feathery daddies. So flamingos, they're pink. Of course they're gay. Everyone knew that already. Like you know they're at all. What's that place? Palm Springs? They have flamingos everywhere.
Speaker 2:They're always in the pools, aren't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're in the pools, you can ride them, but flamingos are pretty, so they're all pink as well. Yeah, which has a synonymous name, but apparently flamingos and again, this is not on here. Yep, but they're only pink because of the krill or the shrimp that they eat. Exactly that's right otherwise they're quite dull colored yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that. Wouldn't know what they taste like, though, would you?
Speaker 1:no, I know I wouldn't eat. They taste like chicken. Probably, probably, I don't know it's a warbird. It tastes like chicken. I don't know they do everything tastes like chicken. Everyone knows that. Yeah, even fish all right, what else are you going to have?
Speaker 2:okay, going on for yours. I mean, I've got swans here as well, because obviously swans make for life and we knew that. Well, most people do know that did you know, that okay.
Speaker 2:Well, they do. I mean, I've known that for a while. Um, they're very matey-fied in terms of their soulness to each other and when one dies it's like really horrendous for them. It is it's very, very sad, very, very sad, yeah. But it does say that sometimes you get two boys, as in gay swans, that couple up together and they have been spotted in society, in the actual In the wild, in the wild, yeah, thank you. Raising cygnets together.
Speaker 1:Garden territories like elegant feathered mussel daddies, swans of San Francisco, what's that play? Or the ballet, swan Lake, swan Lake yeah, yeah, well, I've seen the old male cast do Swan Lake. Oh, there you go. That was quite cool. Yeah, that's the say. They trip it all. I don't know, I can't remember what it's called now, but yeah, I have their muscle daddies.
Speaker 2:It says yeah, yeah, they're feathered muscle daddies feathered muscle daddies.
Speaker 1:I like that. There you go, indeed. Yep, now the king of the jungle, the lion, right? So male lines do it like kings? Yeah, they do, and I'm a leo just as a fyi with other male lines up to eight percent of male lines gives you raw daddy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct up to eight percent of male line sex happens between bros, right. Sometimes they form all male coalitions and cuddle, snuggle and mate. Oh so that's pretty hot, that's very cute. If you were a male, if you were in the animal kingdom, yeah, and you thought, like seeing lions fucking each other, that's okay then.
Speaker 2:Lionesses are very pretty too.
Speaker 1:They are.
Speaker 2:But hey, when you come across a big, mean daddy Big mean daddy with his mane and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I was an animal and I'm not into bestiality, but if I was an animal, I'd want to be a lion. Fuck another lion, yeah, yeah definitely. Definitely Big raw, definitely Raw. Ah, I saw what you did there Raw and raw. All right, dave, there you go. Hit us with the obvious one and the last, last one of my choice today is dolphins.
Speaker 2:Dolphins are naturally known as being very kinky and queer. We've known this for a while haven't we. We've known this for a while, haven't we?
Speaker 1:Hence the reason why we had the Flipper Boys. Yeah, originally this podcast was going to be called Flipper Boys, for a little fun known fact. We've really sort of like tuned in very much towards dolphins in our own sort of like yeah we had some friends that we used to hang out with earlier, and there was quite a few of us and we used to call ourselves the pod. Yeah, um, and hence why we came, but obviously yeah because they are very, very gay.
Speaker 2:But they're also the only species, or one of the species, that don't necessarily have sex for reproduction yeah, they love it, they have fun like we.
Speaker 1:Have it for fun, like us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but anyway I've got dolphins are kinky and queer. Some say some sex dolphins duos, dolphins duos yep, boy bands that flirt with females then go back to each other also. They use their blow holes for fun and that's not a euphemism and that's not a euphemism yet.
Speaker 1:So yeah, okay, so dolphins, which, again, we've known for a while, but you may not have known that, listeners. But dolphins are kinky and queen, but they use their blow holes for fun.
Speaker 2:That's interesting, yeah, so they not only blow air out of them, but they blow bubbles, they blow signals, they blow each other with them yeah, they do lots of things you have to go underneath them where they blow bubbles.
Speaker 1:No, no because I believe on the news there was someone that was actually arrested, I think even incarcerated, for actually having sex with the dolphins blowhole.
Speaker 2:Oh really which is just no, that's not okay. That's not okay. No, that's not okay. Beastality is not okay. No, well, I'm saying dolphins, if they go underneath each other and blow bubbles With each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I wasn't talking about humans. Yeah, yeah, humans, no, no, yeah, but dolphins blowing bubbles all over each other's Fun bits?
Speaker 1:That'd be fun.
Speaker 2:Imagine if we could do it. I think the guy did last night, but he used his tongue. And then you blew bubbles, and then you blew, and then I blow a hole and my blowhole blew and you definitely blew bubbles afterwards. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, your bubbles were flowing.
Speaker 1:My semen got released into the ocean, into everywhere. So my last fun fact for animals is it's a big one, it's a bison. Bisons have secret gay hangouts. So bisons are pretty burly things, aren't they? So male bison engage in same-sex mounting, especially outside mating season, like a giant horny cowboy's club on the prairie. Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't want to come along a bison. They fucking huge they're big, they're big. I would not want to be on the end would you want to be mounted by a bison, though fuck me absolutely not no absolutely not. No chance in hell even another bison being mounted by another bison. I don't think I want, no, no, no, I wouldn't be want to be around that. Well, we went to the rodeo.
Speaker 1:The other week, didn't we? We've seen bulls, and so there, yeah, bisons are bigger, absolutely. So yeah, yep, no, thank you. So, that's our bizarre facts of the week.
Speaker 2:I hope you enjoyed that, yeah, we have, we'll be bringing more.
Speaker 1:If you've got any other bizarre facts that you'd like us, it doesn't have to be on any particular topic.
Speaker 2:You just tell us about it and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll talk about it. We'll have some fun with it as well, awesome. So, dave, now it's time for Dave's Letter of the Day. So this is the segment where Dave picks out a letter or I'll pick out a random letter from our random head, and then Dave's going to give us five words that begin with that letter and we're going to discuss.
Speaker 2:I think you're just going to pick my balls today, Matt.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what we're going to do. I'm going to pick Dave's balls. I'm going to reach into Dave's pants and they're full of balls. And he's going to work out a letter in there and then I'm going to go pluck, pluck, pluck, pluck, pluck, and today's letter is going to be the letter M? M for Matt, m for Matt, exactly.
Speaker 2:M for mating, M for everything. Oh, all right, so without any further ado, without any further ado.
Speaker 1:Heading to the letter.
Speaker 2:M. Is that further ado? Okay, we're there. I'm just going to oh he's doing some research.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. Yeah, I'm going to go down to M and have a look.
Speaker 2:So, okay, the first letter here. Matt is making out, Making out.
Speaker 1:I love making out myself. I love making out. Yeah, it's hot. I'm a big fan of making out. I'd rather I was going to make a stupid statement there, and so I'd rather make out than fuck, but I'd like to do both. Yeah, I'd like to make out. It has to start with making out. Yeah, I do believe I like kissing. Um, a lot, a lot. I like a good kiss. I like erotic kissing, yeah, erotic, any kind of kissing, looking everywhere, looking everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1:I mean everywhere, not your nostrils no, no he is, I do, oh, I was looking sort of up the jawline and under the neck and sort of doing a bit of biting around the ears, and then I went straight to his ear and he fucking nearly he's like I can't stand anything in my ears.
Speaker 2:I can't do it. But you funny, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, making out, I love making out. Definitely it's fun for me. I know you definitely love it as well. I do exactly making out it's just kissing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it feeling touching, and when it doesn't happen, then, like we said in the last previous podcast, I mean it just doesn't flow for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, this is why I'm not one of these guys that can just walk in to someone's house with their ass up.
Speaker 2:I could do that. Ass up, oh, no, no, no, not that.
Speaker 1:Fuck them, turn around, blow them, go out. No no, I'm not that kind of guy. No, no, all right.
Speaker 2:Next word Dave. Okay, next word, matthew, is mammary intercourse.
Speaker 1:Oh, titty fucking I. Mammary intercourse.
Speaker 2:Oh, titty fucking I spoke about titty fucking last week, I know, but it's still a it's still a mammary intercourse.
Speaker 1:I've never heard it be called that before. Yeah, okay, have you all right? No, I've got a good friend, um miami. Yes, she got a set of those, oh amazing, oh, they're great.
Speaker 2:Even even britney yeah, britney's got great boobs. Yeah, I was impressed. I was so impressed. Yeah, yeah, she showed us the other day, didn't she? But?
Speaker 1:miami is a freaking. They're big, big ass titties yeah, um, but, yeah, but, but yeah. Definitely a lot of our friends got great tits they have, yeah, they have very much. So yeah, definitely well, I don't want to intercourse them um, but they definitely got they got good tits.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, absolutely. But yeah.
Speaker 1:So mammary intercourse is basically just titty fucking. That's where you push the breast scissors together and insert your penis in and out until you end up giving them the letter from last week, which is a pearl necklace, and cutting all over their titties. But yeah, okay, yeah, what's the next word? Oh, yuck, okay, yeah, what's the next word? Oh, yeah, okay, go, mating press, mating press.
Speaker 2:I thought you might look at me like that, mating press is this like a garlic press for mating no I don't know what the fuck it's actually a sexual position a sexual position it's just like a push-up no, I'm on wikipedia here, so it says the mating press is a sexual position that usually consists of one participant performing downward sexual penetration into the receiving partner, often holding their legs down or around their head, is often seen as a more aggressive version of the missionary position pushing the legs even further and often occasionally dislocating the feel, dislocating the person's feet.
Speaker 1:This is the first time Dave's read this. You can tell that because he's dislocating.
Speaker 2:And it's sometimes associated with the aspect of dominance and submission.
Speaker 1:Well, you think I'm just about to dislocate your legs.
Speaker 2:Of course I'm being dominant, probably a trip to ED would happen after that, wouldn't it? While the act has been practiced in many countries, it is most often associated with Japanese sexual culture. Maybe that's why my sunlight's going too bad, that's a day he does like. Where the term was created and the act was popularized. There you go. Popularized, yeah, popularized. Is that a word? Yeah, popularised, of course it's a word.
Speaker 1:It's on here in front of me. It's on Wikipedia.
Speaker 2:You're going to challenge Wikipedia, like you challenged me earlier.
Speaker 1:Challenge Dave on another word. There you go, okay, so what's that called? Again, it's called the mating press. The mating press. Okay, we'll have to try that later. I'll dislocate your hips Because, for those that know Dave, he has a couple of. He has had a very serious back injury and he's got these things and they're called spinal simulators and they're basically like big charging plates for your car, pretty much.
Speaker 2:I like that. They're like pacemakers.
Speaker 1:They feel like big round wheels and they're hard.
Speaker 2:They're made of metal. They do hurt sometimes when I lay them on, so if I was to main impress Dave and pop those out.
Speaker 1:That would not be good. You'd probably pop the metal.
Speaker 2:The screws, yeah, the screws and bolts in the back too. Yeah, I'd end up shooting somebody from the face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, let's not do main impress, huh no. Okay, but I have bent people back over and so, but not dislocated legs all the way over and while I was, you probably did, you probably did disco. I probably have dislocated some legs because it's probably easy done.
Speaker 2:I've dislocated shoulder, isn't it? You know, people just dislocate their shoulders yeah, and I fuck hard, yeah, you do all right. Next word anyway, moving on from that one, the next one is mile mile high club.
Speaker 1:Ah, who hasn't done that? So I haven't. I haven't. I haven't fucked, but I have um, touch people and whack people off. Yeah, I've jerked off. I've jerked myself off, especially um a few times in a plane, because why not? But and I think I've jerked other people off. But yeah, I haven't fucked, I haven't sucked, I haven't done any of that. So because, again, as a six-foot-one man, it's really hard to fuck on a plane Because I'm not going to the cubicle because they're tiny and I'll get locked in and then I'll have to get rescued, unless it's with the hot air hostie, which there are a few gay ones on board, oh there always is Occasionally, always a token, one Occasionally.
Speaker 1:Occasionally so yeah, so you're not a Mile High member, Not I would like to be.
Speaker 2:Okay, we can organise that. Yeah, but it's difficult though, isn't he?
Speaker 1:Let's go on my private jet. Does that count when?
Speaker 2:are you going to?
Speaker 1:go I don't know Wherever. Let's go to Gold Coast, I'd rather go to the cockpit. Hey, fuck a pilot. Yes, fuck a pilot, I'll ride his cock while he's driving the plane.
Speaker 2:Oh no, don't do that, because it could cause the aircraft to nosedive. Come back up again. Yeah, you can fucking spin around and around, can't you? You can roll to the left, roll to the right. I think one of the dogs farted. Well, it's not me, I can't smell anything.
Speaker 1:All right, anyway next word, last one last word. It's called mummification oh okay, have you heard of it? Mummification? Obviously yeah, but have you not in a sexual practice? Exactly yeah, that's not something that I would be into.
Speaker 2:Well, it is part of the BDSM.
Speaker 1:Ah, okay, yeah, so they would basically gag. Abide you and gag you. I know what a mummy is.
Speaker 2:obviously I'll read what it says on the Wikipedia page. Yeah, please do so mummification is a form of bondage in which a person is wrapped in some form of wrap in order to restrict them from movement. Person is wrapped in some form of wrap in order to restrict them from movement. Different forms of wrap include duct tape, cohesive wrap, plastic wrap. I mean, you've seen the latex people being wrapped up in latex, haven't you? Yeah, and that's restricts their bodies. I mean, see the ones where they're like almost in, like a body suit.
Speaker 2:That's a rubber suit yeah, but it's still a restriction. That's what they call it, mummification, so they can't move away.
Speaker 1:It's a form of control, yeah, not for me anyway.
Speaker 2:So medical blankets and bandages is also part of the bondage bdsm scene and can be related to sexual and therapeutic play. Commonly, the person being mummified is completely wrapped head to toe, with just a nose being left over. I couldn't do that. That'd be so claustrophobic I'd I'd be panicking. I would be panicking, I'd lose control of my.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't do that that'd be so claustrophobic.
Speaker 2:I'd I'd be panicking. I would be panicking, I'd lose control of my yeah, I couldn't do it. Um, um, left open for them to form a breathing form. Um, the person who is who mummifies a person is called the dominant, or the dom, for short, and it's a person being mummified is called the sub-submissive so yeah yeah, but again, it's something I didn't know.
Speaker 2:I've never heard of mummification in a gay context, not in a, not in a sexual context. I mean mummification. You wouldn't know what the word mummification? Yeah, obviously, but there you go. So we've been to school, so yeah there you go.
Speaker 1:Very interesting. So that's the letter m day. Factual stuff, isn't it? Tick it off and move on. There you go. Yeah, now our next big one that we're going to chat. So we had a list of questions.
Speaker 2:I just need to get it up on my screen.
Speaker 1:Matt Dave's going to jump it up onto the screen in a second.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Dave over to you and this one's open for discussion.
Speaker 2:Yes, so we have one of our viewers from Europe this time. Yep Sent us a message and it's quite an in-depth message I think it covers.
Speaker 1:Just hang on, just just to um. So we've been doing this pod for about a year and a half now, yep, and so we've actually got listeners from all over the world, which is fucking awesome, because this is a thank you to all of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah we've done this from my little second bedroom type thing, right, um, we've got this little setup. We don't have any fancy editors or anything like that. It's me dave, um, my zoom pod track p4, right, I basically copy it over. I do it all in garage band. We release it through our buzzsprout, right? It's awesome that we're actually being able to touch people all across the world.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, and we really appreciate your listening and we appreciate the comments and we really appreciate your comments, yep, and we appreciate your follows and your likes and all that kind of stuff, yep, and we really appreciate your questions. So here is one of those.
Speaker 2:Yep. So we've got this question coming through and it says do you think there is a chance that sexuality is more tied to nature or nurture? Now, we both know. From our own perspective, we have our own opinions. Yep, we don't know. No, we have our own opinions. But again, then he's got. I've really wrestled with this question. As far as I can figure, it's all nature and I. From my perspective, I would say yes let's read the question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm just saying okay excuse me, I'd enroll myself into conversion therapy, which I think is very sad, um which I didn't know was for 57, 57 suicide rate, and I had a mental breakdown. During the conversion therapy I was told that someone, something, had happened to me in the past to make me think that I was attracted to women and if I could find it and heal it I would be straight again. I'd experienced an assault when I was 15 and the therapist was sure it was the cause. He worked on that painful experience for months. I realized one of my very close friends had experienced an assault in a very worse way than mine as a young child. And here she was as an adult with a very healthy, intimate life with her husband.
Speaker 2:It finally sunk in that my assault had my sexuality and my sexuality had been truly not been linked. As I started the path of healing, every time I told someone I'm gay I felt more alive, more connected to the earth, more real. So I ended up saying it to a lot I really don't care. I'm sorry, really didn't care. Who heard, who heard me. It felt so good to say that. I felt so good to be alive now that's. I feel quite teary about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's look thank you for sharing. Yeah, firstly, um, we really appreciate your sharing, uh, that, because that's that's a big share. All right, so to know that you've come from um, so and and I'm sorry for the person that's actually sort of done that to you, um, in your past, it's not okay, obviously we're not okay with that, but we are here to support you through that. Um. Now, I guess the crux of the question here is nature versus nurture.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So for me personally, right, I am 100% on board with for me, I know this is how I was born. So for me, this is nature, not nurture. I was born with the right role models around me, had a loving family Yep, my dad left when I was nine. However, I had male role models throughout my whole life, being my next of neighbour who was a great role model for me. I had other family members, other males around and stuff like that. I had grandfathers, I had uncles, I had grandfathers, I had uncles, I had people that were in my life. So I had great role models and a loving, caring family.
Speaker 1:So, for me personally, this is who I am right Now. I wasn't ever interfered with as a child or anything like that, so I'm not in a position to say that it made. That made me that way. I can. I, over the years of I've been fucking old, now 53. So I've had friends over the years that have actually had, unfortunately, been victims of sexual abuse, um, and they have been gay and they attribute that to the fact that they don't um well, I think it's sort of like made them more aware of their sexuality because of the event that that's what they learned and and their their thought process.
Speaker 1:And and again, this one friend of mine, his thought process was that that made him gay. Yeah, right that he would have been straight otherwise. Now the the list that's coming here has basically said that that hasn't made them gay. They thought that, yeah, but over the years they've learned that that's just who they were. But again.
Speaker 2:Therapists will always try and make a cause for what you are, and going to conversion therapy, I think is actually horrendous. I don't think anybody should have to even enjoy that. Society is so brutal.
Speaker 1:Conversion therapy has just been criminalised or delegalised it's just been made illegal in in australia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's 2025, well, even in america this year, even in america this year.
Speaker 1:It's just being made illegal like, are we fucking kidding, I know, right, right, to try and convert someone right, um, for something that this is how you're born, yeah, right, how is it for any of us to say and it'd be like me saying to one of my straight friends that's got a straight child, your child would be so much better off being gay, right, you need to convert him to being gay, right. It just wouldn't happen. I don't get what world that would be okay to tell someone. It's not okay to be themselves right and to fully embrace themselves like I'm. Yeah, I embrace me wholly and solely. But for me I'm definitely a believer in its nature I can see how the nurture has happened.
Speaker 1:I growing up again as a younger gay man. My sister's a lesbian and she had some lesbian friends. They did have a younger child. Um, now that child, the only person, only people, the only circle of influence that that person had was, um, gay friends, gay family. They were only ever, ever, and there was not a single straight person in that person's, in that child's life, right, so they did not know anything different than basically just the gay life, the gay life and the gay lifestyle. So that person has subsequently grown up and they have become gay. Right now, this is where I would question would they have been had they been given the opportunity to? Because it was just, it was a bit like from their family's perspective, um and I don't associate with those people anymore, um, but from those people they were very preachy about gay is the only way. So I don't know that that child had an opportunity to actually choose for itself.
Speaker 2:Right, I've, I haven't chosen, but I've definitely been supported in my choices from my family and friends around me but you also think, going back to the actual narrative of what he was saying, was that his friend, female friend had been assaulted as well in a more horrific way, but she was able to continue being straight.
Speaker 2:See what I'm saying yeah so that again to me says there was definitely an element of him already having that gay nature to him. Yeah, I mean to make him understand that he wasn't going to be straight because of what happened to him, yeah, but again society puts these pressures. Society. Absolutely, Matt, you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1:Society is the most brutal form of homophobic form of homophobic um, well, sometimes okay, and sometimes it's not even it's. It's our perception of society, because what is viewed, and this is why this next generation coming in, the generation that I guess, the younger generation now, yep, they're in such a much better place, absolutely because no one gives a fuck. Yeah, right our generation.
Speaker 1:Right, we definitely cared. Yeah, and I knew growing previous generations. To us it was even worse, I know, growing up as a boy from mount drawett, right, um, it was not okay to be gay right you growing up and having a job in the air force. It was illegal?
Speaker 2:Of course it was absolutely, and people lost their jobs for it. You know what I mean. That's the sad thing about it.
Speaker 1:You couldn't be. So the thing is that, like you had to conform right, you had to fight the nature almost, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and, as we know, when society does change its ways or people fight for equality, which is happening, and then people go back in and continue their lives as if nothing's happened and people accept them because there's no sort of stigma attached to it, society has this inept attitude of putting stigmatisation on people from different sort of cultural backgrounds, ethnic beliefs, you know, sexualities and stuff like that. And I get wound up so much more because the governments of this world not just in australia but everywhere in the whole world have this habit of putting so much force and pressure on society to make people conform. Yeah, and that's what it's down to is controlling nature, and what they do is they target an audience and they they go hell leather and they make that target audience.
Speaker 1:Look if you look at, I guess, what's happening in America at the moment, with our trans brothers and sisters that are basically being told they don't exist, which they do exist. History tells us that they exist. They've existed for a long time, right, and no fucking little redheaded man, angry man, can come in and tell you you don't exist. So, yeah, you do exist. That's what you say. Fuck, fuck him. Yeah, quite honestly, fuck you trouble. No, he doesn't even deserve a mention, his name. No, yuck. But yeah, everyone exists. Everyone has the right to exist, everyone has the right to thrive and enjoy their life, but from a nature perspective. For me, I think, there's column A, column B, there's a little bit of both out there because, again, if you've had that traumatic experience in your life I get wholeheartedly, I would say you know.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Look, there's late-life lesbians out there, right, that have had abusive relationships their whole life, right Now, we know, because we're both adults and we know that sometimes relationships aren't all about sex, all right. Sometimes they're about companionship, all right. So the thing is that if you're talking a late-life lesbian, it might not be about the sexual side of things, right? So we're talking nature versus nurture. Um, if you're having that um horrible relationship with a man and you actually have a really good friend, it might be a lesbian relationship, but it might not necessarily be a sexual lesbian relationship. It might just be. You just get along really well with that person and you choose to live out the rest of your life. And but because society, we need to label things.
Speaker 2:That's why it becomes a lesbian relationship, but yeah, but anyway, we did just like go off a little bit of track there, but never mind. Um, yeah, just just unusual for us. But anyway, I just wanted to say, um, like, we respect you wholeheartedly for a sharing your story with us, but also following through. I'm so happy and proud of you for following your own, your own path and actually just saying fuck you all. This is who I am and basically, if you don't like me, then fuck off. But I'm happy being me and I'm alive.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so good on you for doing that and I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did, to get really proud that every time you actually sell somebody you're gay. That actually makes you feel better. Yeah, yeah, because that's not that you should even have to do you don't have to, but it's. It's great that you can actually feel better for being you.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, okay so if you've that's it for today's pod.
Speaker 1:But if you do have any, if you've, that's it for today's pod. But if you do have, any. If you have any questions, hit us up at any of our socials Fully Grown Homos Podcast and or our email fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom. I've been Matt this time, yeah, who have you been?
Speaker 2:I hope I've been Dave. You've been Dave.
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