Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Breadsticks & Butt Plugs: The Unexpected History of Sex Toys
Missing a few episodes because life got in the way? We're back and better than ever with a candid catch-up session that dives deep into both our personal journeys and some fascinating sex-positive history!
Dave takes us through his recent medical adventures following his hospitalization. From the slightly uncomfortable but necessary cystoscopy procedure (with a hot doctor, naturally) to brain scans and prostate discussions, he shares these experiences with the perfect balance of humor and helpful information. Meanwhile, I (Matt) open up about my recent mental health challenges while adjusting to a new professional role. The irony wasn't lost on me that I teach others to ask for help yet couldn't follow my own advice—a reminder that we're all works in progress, no matter how self-aware we think we are.
The conversation takes a fascinating historical turn when we explore the surprising origins of sex toys throughout human civilization. Did you know the oldest discovered dildo dates back 28,000 years to the Neolithic period? Or that Ancient Greeks apparently used olive oil-soaked breadsticks for pleasure? Our journey through dildo history from stone artifacts to steam-powered Victorian devices had us both laughing and learning.
Our popular "Letter of the Day" segment returns with P-themed words that spark discussions about everything from pearl necklaces to public sex, with personal anecdotes that only fully grown homos could share. We wrap up by tackling the age-old question of whether gay men typically have sex on first dates, offering our candid thoughts on how hookup culture and dating intersect in today's world.
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Speaker 1:Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt. On this week's episode, we're going to do things slightly different, Matt we are, we are, and I'll work out exactly how that're going to do things slightly different. Matt, we are, we are, and I'll work out exactly how that's going to happen now. We have been off track, so we do apologize, but we're hopefully back now. We've been busy, busy boys doing lots of stuff and having lots of stuff happen. Dave, what's been happening in your world?
Speaker 2:well, moving forward from my hospitalization, as we discussed in the last one was.
Speaker 1:That was our last one, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so about three weeks ago. I'm feeling a lot better in myself. Obviously, I've had a few more tests that have had to be done. You're not pregnant no, unfortunately. So I'm sorry that I can't give you another kid, another kid.
Speaker 1:Fuck off, I don't have any.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you've got some running. Mine will go down in the drain or up a bum. We've all discussed this. Yeah, um, no. So yeah, I had to go and have a procedure called a cystoscopy. Have you ever? Heard of cystoscopy. I hadn't until you told me all about it, yeah, so it's quite a simple procedure, but the waiting time was just such a long time for me because I had like 10 other people going through both, both men and women, mostly men all right.
Speaker 2:So how hot was your doctor, though oh look, the doctor was extremely hot, as usual, you know, you can't, you can't, uh, you can't not have.
Speaker 1:And what did he do, though?
Speaker 2:so basically the whole, the whole um procedure is basically inserting the camera into your bladder and then where did they go, dave? So I'll talk about that in a minute, just wait there.
Speaker 2:So they put, they put camera inside your bladder, check you, know your your make sure that there's no untowards things such as cancer or polyps or cysts or anything else that shouldn't be there. Basically, if they are, they take biopsy samples, send them away and then hopefully get back to you with positive results, hopefully. So I got taken to the procedure I had to empty my bladders prior to going in, taken into the uh, the procedure, um, I had to empty my bladders prior to going in, um, and basically what they do is they insert this camera. It's like it's very, very small. You can't even see. It's like a like it's almost like a piece of thread. You know, I mean it's that small, but it's got a camera on the end of it and they have to insert that through your urethra. Now, obviously, your japs before that they have to numb it.
Speaker 2:So they don't give you a general anesthetic, they give you a local anesthetics. You wait for the whole procedure. So do they put a needle in your dick? Not really, no.
Speaker 2:So what they do is they put like a numbing gel so they may have used that myself yeah, so obviously, because I've got, I'm uncircumcised, so I had to pull back my foreskin and basically then use this like cotton, sort of like bud, with um, it's like a cooling gel, it's like it's like, well, it's like a cold, sensational um feeling, yep. And then what they then have to do is then they have to insert this gel inside your penal entry, right so, and that can be quite uncomfortable because they're forcing this gel especially when the hot doctor's sitting there stroking you fore forcing backward forward and again, that is quite common for guys to get erections because obviously the sensation is someone else they did tell you in the pre-op that you may have to get erect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometimes they do to get the camera down there, because obviously sometimes it's a little bit awkward when they can't hold you've got a decent sized dick, so well they didn't need to do that, so anyway.
Speaker 2:So he then put this numbing gel down, which was again a little bit uncomfortable because it's more so to do with the pressure side, not not the sensation of the actual gel itself, and basically he then pushes the camera inside, but because your bladder is deflated, because it's making side, you've got like a vacuum effect. So you're pushing against like a vacuum and it's like causes resistance, if that makes sense. So you've got like a vacuum effect, so you're pushing against like a vacuum and it's like causes resistance, if that makes sense. So you've got to try and like stimulate is, if you're peeing, you need to try and pee, but also at the same time what they're also doing is, as they're putting the camera down, they're putting like saline solution into into your bladder as well. So it's like a double sort of like um.
Speaker 2:So you've got the camera, you've got yeah, it's like a double tube, and the larger tube is the more comfortable part of it. So you've got a little camera attached and then the tube goes in.
Speaker 1:I've never done sounding, but I'm guessing that wouldn't well exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, it would be like a sounding, sort of like tool, I suppose, in terms of the sound, the size of it. So if you ever don't, if you know what sounding is, we can talk about sounding is basically when you're shoving something up the eye of your cock. Yeah, and it can be quite like a metal rod or something like that.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not necessarily nice, well, it's, I don't, it's not for me.
Speaker 2:So the only way I could describe it, it'd be like a the size of a pen, slightly smaller than the pen, just slightly smaller. So, yeah, so that goes down through your uh, your japs, eye, basically, and the fluid that they're pumping into your bladder. The saline solution helps with the lubrication side as well, but you have this natural reaction anyway to pee. And the doctor said to me just feel like you're going to toilet. I said, well, will I pee? He goes well, no, you've got nothing to pee anyway. So he said it's not a problem, it won't come out. So eventually the camera goes down and as he's going down he can see sort of things like you can see my prostate and stuff like that, which is pretty cool and I can see this.
Speaker 2:I was watching the screen and he was describing to me exactly what was going on.
Speaker 1:He wouldn't video it listeners. I did ask him to video it for me so I could watch it back.
Speaker 2:So anyway, so he eventually gets inside the bladder, has a good look around, shows me the two kidney entries, which is really interesting. So he's like spinning this camera around on this, like remote control stickers got, yeah, like a roller coaster, it's like a virtual reality, it's like a worm that goes around around. So if they did want to go and investigate your kidneys they can go up that little tube and into that. So there's pretty clever, but my bladder seemed very, very good. He said that your bladder looks really healthy, it looks really cool.
Speaker 2:He said um, but I said he said that I can see your prostate. Um is quite prominent in your bladder wall line, you know I mean. So he said that could be a problem that could be causing irritation to your bladder. So he said look, I need you to go back and see one of my colleagues in six weeks time to have discussion on procedures to shave your prostate. So I don't know what the procedures are, I've never looked at it, but they can actually shave your prostate because I've got an enlarged prostate, which is normal for people of my age or our age, um, but obviously I don't get tested, but it's obviously causing me more irritation and problems. So there is a procedure that they'll check your prostate.
Speaker 2:Obviously they'll just check for cancer, but obviously all my blood tests and also what he saw, he said, look there's nothing everything come back fine, um, but they just said, you know, for your own sort of like um, comfortableness and also going on with your health problems, you know, I mean we can probably shave some of your prostate down to make it less prominent in that regard, so hopefully you won't need to go to toilet as often as well. Yeah, um, so, yeah, so that was that procedure that went fine. I mean, I won't know the results until I've spoken to my my GP, because obviously he'll have to describe all this to me and what the procedures are. But I mean that's what the surgeon told me, so I pretty much got an idea what was going on, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean I wasn't worried yeah, and obviously yeah then obviously I had to go for my brain and orbital scan and my ultrasound yeah, I did, I was actually looking at a few of the photographs today on the actual um castle ray website, imaging um thing and yeah, I can actually see my brain.
Speaker 1:So I told dave he should actually have one really enlarged and printed up and put into all different colors.
Speaker 2:But the whole reason for me having the brain scan was not for my brain, it's basically for my eyes. So the ophthalmologist wanted to see what's causing the fluid buildup behind my retina which is causing a problem with my vision in my right eye after my cataract replacement. Yep, so yeah. So again I mean I won't know, don't get old listeners. So yeah, so again I mean I won't know, don't get old listeners. No, no, it is, it's fucked. Yeah. So basically I won't know anything until I've spoken to him what the outcome of that is, because I mean I can't diagnose like a CT scan myself.
Speaker 1:Oh, but you certainly can try. Oh yeah, Dr Google will tell you all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:We know that you do it. He said I just shave my head sometimes, yeah. So I said to him when I had my back operation. He looked at me and goes oh my God, I hope you didn't. I said I did. And he goes oh my God, yeah. He said that's not a good sign. I said no, it's not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Dr Google.
Speaker 2:Don't use Dr Google no of my neck just to check. My blood vessels were open and enough oxygen was getting through to my brain and everything else, and you know the arterial flow was good, so you're fighting fit. Yeah, so I've been tested to the max this week um done some more renovation stuff. Um, obviously, so wait for my builders to get back because they've been away. Um, yeah, so that's pretty much my week your house is coming along really, really nicely.
Speaker 1:I went and checked it out the other week and not quick enough for me, though it's yeah, yeah, we want it done already. Obviously, everyone wants it done, um, but it's coming along really nicely and I can see the vision and it's coming to fruition and, like every, every, all the changes you've actually made to the, to the layout, look fucking spectacular and it's just yeah, it's just amazing, but, yeah, it's all coming along really quickly, yeah so, yeah, and what about yourself, matt?
Speaker 1:my week's been a bit rough, so I've had a few rough weeks just with um, settling into my new role and stuff like that. Um, I've been in my job for a long time and I'm very good at my job and when I'm trying to learn something new, I'm pretty much my own worst critic and I basically was going super hard on myself and sort of not giving myself the time to learn new line new, new things and stuff like that. So I was in a bit of a rough place mentally for a couple of weeks. There. We could all see that and everyone could see that and it was just like and it wasn't, wasn't great, but I couldn't snap myself out of it and thankfully I have my friends and family around me, um more so my friends and my friends that I call family, um, so yeah, they were all there for me, which was always very supportive, but it was just a rough, rough few weeks.
Speaker 1:I'm back now. I'm back to being my awesome self, um, and yeah, it's finally a lot of it's finally clicked in. I've finally learned that I'm actually allowed to ask for help, which is really stupid, because I know better than anyone, because I teach this when I'm teaching, because so I'm in like yeah, I'm in the retail space, but I'm in the training and development sort of retail space for a lot of it and and I'm forever telling people ask you don't need to know what you don't know, you need to know who does know that right, and sort of use the people on. You do all that kind of stuff. And but I've just got really shitted it for a few moments there and forgot that I could actually ask a question but the whole process of learning is by asking questions yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Imagine that I know right. Imagine that, hey, I know right.
Speaker 2:Imagine that. And how many times did we tell you that? Oh, shut up, I know, but you are but.
Speaker 1:I am very self-sufficient. You are, and I have been self-sufficient my entire life. So the thing is that it was just my brain just snapped and then I remembered again that, hey, this is how you actually get by and this is how you actually do get better. But yeah, so I'm in a lot better place and feeling great, and hence why we've actually sort of come back to this because I was in the right headspace and stuff like that to do this. Welcome back, mate, because you have to be in the right headspace to have fun and enjoy and bring some positivity. Otherwise, it's going to come over the airwaves and you're going to sound like a miserable cunt. Um, but yeah, which is yeah, but this week we're going to talk about some fun stuff.
Speaker 1:We've incorporated a few of our old segments that we're going to do, but we're going to do some new ones. We're going to do some listener questions. If you do have listener questions, hit us up at any of our socials fullygrownhomerspodcast, shoot us on our instagram boxes and facebook or I don't really monitor facebook, so just go to instagram, it's much easier or you can email us at fullygrownhomerspodcast at gmailcomau. I think it is. Anyway, I'll put that in the tag. Anyway, I can't remember. We haven't used the email for a long time either, so hit us up by the instagram fullygrownhomelesspodcast at our insta, yeah at our insta for any questions you want to send in.
Speaker 1:But, dave, we were looking a little bit of content that we wanted to actually bring and we're doing some research and stuff like that and we thought we'd have a look at some fun stuff. And yeah, we've come across something called dildo.
Speaker 2:Facts and stories is what we're going to cover up. It's all fun facts, but dildo is part of one of the conversations.
Speaker 1:Yeah but today we wanted to talk about dildos, and it was quite when we did some research on this it. It was quite fun and quite historical. Yeah, so, dave, take it away.
Speaker 2:So basically, matt, when we were doing some research, we discovered that the oldest dildo in the world so far as we've been able to find out through archaeologists and evidence of history, it dates back to 28,000 years BC. It dates back to 28 000 years bc. So you're talking like the p? Uh, the uh, the uh, the neolithic um, you know period where cavemen were around, yeah, and they discovered this, this first um? Um dildo, phallic, phallic, yeah, um 30 000 years ago it was. It was actually carved and it was found in a German cave in 2005. When you say carved, carved out of what? Well, this is it. So you know, it was a highly. They were saying that the object itself was highly polished and it was made of a stone phallic-shaped material.
Speaker 1:So yeah, somebody's getting their rocks off, so I wonder if that's where that comes from.
Speaker 2:It could very well be. I mean, all these analogies that we have getting your rocks off, could very well mean that could be. You know, we'll have to google that and find out we'll find that out one day, but yeah, so basically you know they it was highly polished as well. So this is like so bizarre that you know neolithic people in germany back 30 000 years ago were actually using stones to fuck themselves with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2:And there was another one you said that was actually yeah, so moving on, obviously, this is just obviously the very first one that they found the old one and there's actually a picture of it online as well, so I keep going off mic a little bit um, and you know, moving on it's got.
Speaker 2:The ancient greeks were also very much into using objects. Now I only discovered this bit this morning. Yep, right, and it says I'll just read the narrative. It says the ancient greeks knew all about the joys of um olive oil long before jamie oliver made it cool, but what they were actually doing was anything but using anything. But they were using extra virgin olive oil with obelisk-like objects were used as dildos. The most common of this was breadsticks. Yep, used in Greek before 5 BC, so before any obelisk sort of like Any shape, shape, yeah was invented. These breadsticks were used, dipped in olive oil and used for self-pleasuring For self-pleasure there you go so bread does bring pleasure, whether or not.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they ate it. Maybe that's another thing eating out someone.
Speaker 1:Oh maybe they left the bread in there and they thought I better go and get that. Um, yeah, who knows?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm just trying to like, I'm gonna duck down to my baker's delight, I'll be back in a second. Um, no, I'm trying to duck down to my baker's delight, I'll be back in a second. No, I'm trying to work out whether, see, because unless you left that breadstick to get stale first and pretty hard, well you'd have to really bake it hard. I'm just trying to think how it would work. Well, it'd be crusty, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would hurt, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:Well, see, this is the thing is you actually brought up the other week, when we were discussing this, you brought up the one that was made of wood and I sat there and I went. That would give you splinters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I'm trying to work out how that would feel and I'm just thinking Well, they'd have to sand it down, wouldn't they?
Speaker 2:Well?
Speaker 1:but from bread though, like if you're talking about a loaf of bread right Now, if we're going in the front, if you're a lady using this breadstick with the olive oil, exactly Right, it would get moist, it would get soggy, so it would disintegrate, potentially because women get moist Right. Wet, yeah, some get really wet. Yeah, I just threw up in my own mouth a bit there. That's gross, but would it not get soggy?
Speaker 2:Of course it would. Yeah. The thing is, how do you stop even breaking as well, especially if it's like you've got a new re-tide?
Speaker 1:Maybe that's where the term breaking bread came from as well.
Speaker 2:We love to Google all these things. We're discovering all these little quotes from history.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but if you did it anally as well, I wonder if they used biscuits. Is that what I said? You could have a shit sandwich. I wonder if they used biscuits.
Speaker 2:That's where taking the biscuit was as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, a shit sandwich. I've just like. I have so many questions on this and so many that I don't want answered.
Speaker 2:We need to do. Food facts, yeah, food facts, fun food facts Gay facts Breadsticks With olive oil.
Speaker 1:It's not something I would use. I've used butter in the past when I fuck somebody, but I've not used olive oil. Olive oil would be fine.
Speaker 2:I'd use Popeye.
Speaker 1:The breadstick would be Somewhat interesting. Moving on from that, the first modern dildo is the breadstick. The breadstick would be, yeah, somewhat interesting. What else you got?
Speaker 2:there. So yeah. So, moving on from that, the first modern dildo was invented in france in 1734. Was it also a bread? No, it was actually called the thermosa. The thermosa, yeah, and it was a handheld wound up vibrator that operated the same way as you know. Know, when you get the egg whisks Yep, yep yep, it's like that.
Speaker 1:So, as you're winding it, it would like spin round and round and round, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's pretty nifty. So would it be a one-person operator, because again you'd have to be pretty nimble to wind the egg feeder.
Speaker 2:Well, you'd hope that you shaved yourself because you wouldn't get your fucking pubes caught in there, would you?
Speaker 1:Wow, ouch, yeah, but back in those days they kept everything hairy and bushy.
Speaker 2:But could you imagine the friction as well? I don't know what it was made of. It doesn't say what it was made of. I'm assuming it was made of like either 1734, so you're talking wood or you're going to be talking something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wouldn't be latex at that stage in something, it wouldn't be latex at that stage, it would become some kind of hard material. Yeah, wow, okay, so that's, that's um interesting, isn't it very interesting? So the french, french have always been frisky, oh for sure.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, we know that. And then obviously then moves on oh sorry, yeah, so handheld whisk use control, hysteria, which is hysteria. That's why hysteria comes.
Speaker 1:That's right, because masturbation was frequently used as a control of mental illness. Exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2:And that's where hysteria comes from you don't need a. Latin word for it. In 1869, a guy called George Taylor then created a steam-powered vibrator.
Speaker 2:And that was called the manipulator, the manipulator that would give you burns, and that was followed in 1880 by the electromagnetical vibrator, an invention, invention developed in um, sorry, an invention, um, duplicated in the movie called hysteria. So the movie hysteria was about that, that dildo, it was about that electromagnetical vibrator. So the whole thing was built around that. It was about hysteria. You know, I'll have to go back and watch that one, and you know what the greek terminology for hysteria is.
Speaker 1:No, it means uterus well, that makes sense, because women are hysterical yeah.
Speaker 2:so when they say crazy way, I mean not exactly, I'm joking, girls I love you are hysterical yeah, so when you say In a crazy way I mean Exactly, I'm joking girls. I love you. You know that. So when you say everybody's hysterical, it means they're all fucking vaginas or they're all uteruses.
Speaker 1:They're all a bunch of uteruses.
Speaker 2:They're all a bunch of cunts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you cunts are hysterical. Yeah, no word. Dildo comes from the latin word meaning dilate or open up. Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 2:So see, today's a school day, every day's a school day, kids, and the classic rubber dildo didn't come around until the mid 90s, so the mid 1880s. And then again I put down breadsticks we use while the greeks use it 1880s, so that's pretty early on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. So we've been self-fucking for a long time, absolutely For a long long time, and I'm okay with that. How many dildos have you got, dave?
Speaker 2:I've only got about three, but there's one that I never used, which we obviously talked about before, which is the 747. The 747, which is they bought it online and it came, and it was it looked really cool online, yeah, but when I got it it was like a torpedo, enormous. It was like you know, something that you'd actually put in your back yard and send it to space.
Speaker 1:It's like your forearm it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's as big as my forearm, so it's been sort of like gathering dust in my cupboard ever since Never been seeing the day and it's never been seen that they like, until I get out and show people Yep, and I say, do you want to go? And they look at me and go oh, maybe not. No, no.
Speaker 1:It's not going in there, so yeah.
Speaker 2:But people have used that size and bigger and bigger and bigger, as we know online. Yeah, which again, I mean it's personal taste and not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1:I've got of bought that's like a little vibrator type one.
Speaker 2:Well, that one was good, Yours is very good, that's really good, really good.
Speaker 1:It's sort of like and it's sort of basically and I've used that on you you have it's an anal stimulator and it sort of vibrates on your balls at the same time and it is actually quite intense.
Speaker 2:Well, the girls that we went to the sex boat, they bought those and they swear by them, don't they? They said they were the best ones they ever had.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then I recently, when we went on holidays, I bought us one each. Yeah, intentionally to throw into the bag, because that was going to be fun.
Speaker 2:But given the fact we were going over to Asian countries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got a bit nervous and thought we better not, but I've used that one since as well, and it's sort of a rubber one. Is that the green one? No, I haven't used the green one. You've got the green one somewhere, right, okay, yeah, but the one that I bought for myself, I haven't used it yet. While I was in there buying your one, I'd bought one and it was like one of those ones that suction cups to the wall for the showers and pulls the tiles off for the showers and the whole fucking wall comes down yeah, when I have a bing in my car, I go out there and use it as a dent puller.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, you saw that clip online. Remember that dog, the dog running around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a suction cup one, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:That was a suction cup one, yeah, so there was a clip on YouTube last night or somewhere, like that one of the social media platforms, and there was this great big A dildo running around in the Navy shower.
Speaker 1:Give it back to me, the owner's chasing it around, going where'd you get that, Where'd you get that? And some of the owners go give it back. Give it back.
Speaker 2:It was freaking amazing, but there are lots of stories of people with dildos. I mean, if you've got any, send them in.
Speaker 1:Obviously, we know that yeah. They. No, that was my family. Oops, getting them in trouble, they found a giant big black dildo.
Speaker 1:No, this is another one, another story, no, but this one here I'll tell this one, this one here when they were, unfortunately, one of some of my family members passed away and they found them in their house and so all the boys, the young boys, were chasing each other around the house and then they put it in the bin and then the other one would go go to the bin. Can you take this to the bin? And I opened it up and it was on the suction cup, that's on to the inside of the bin, where they opened the lid and hit him in the face. It was just like so dildos are fun? Of course they are. They're fun. They're for pleasure, fun.
Speaker 2:Fun for pleasure, fun for People get held up about. Some people get really held up about discussing sex toys and stuff like that. And it's just so they're toys, they're fun, they're meant to be fun.
Speaker 1:You should have fun with them. And everybody should have at least one toy in their house somewhere, yeah yeah, yeah, I'm a big advocate of it, because if your sex life is dying down a little bit with your partner, no reason you still shouldn't enjoy sex.
Speaker 2:Of course that's right, and everybody uses objects in every single day life.
Speaker 1:you know well. The thing is that it's a good way to get you back on the bike um with pun intended, I guess, um stuff like that and get you back riding again. Um, get it in there, get that thing open, it open, have some fun with it, yep, discover yourself. Again. You'll see lots of gay men use butt plugs as trainers because, again, they're not necessarily out there getting fucked every day, but they do enjoy the sensation, yep. So therefore, they'll use the butt plugs just to sort of open up.
Speaker 2:I remember, if you're going to use anything, make sure you don't push it all the way in Make sure it's got a base. Yeah, or make sure you're not putting things like glass and stuff in there, because we've heard so many horror stories. Yeah, well, yeah Like this is a nurse and she tells us all these things. No, not unconfidential stuff, but just scenarios that they've actually come across.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we've seen the internet. Everyone's got the internet.
Speaker 2:Well, exactly, I mean like yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, make sure it's got a base if you're going to stick it in your car.
Speaker 2:But my funniest stories are when kids find their parents' toys and they come running downstairs. What's? This and they're so naive and your parents have got friends over or family members over.
Speaker 1:It'll always happen when that's the worst case scenario. It's like mummy, mummy, look what I found off and stuff like that and just all they've left it on in your luggage as well. We've got a good mate, that said that he, um yeah, yeah, he was moving house of some quite wealthy people and he opened up oh, this backpack was there.
Speaker 1:But it was not backpack a big duffel bag yeah big duffel bag and it basically was full, was zipped, unzipped slightly. So he actually basically looked and it had was chock-a-block full of dildos of all various shapes and sizes. So he actually put them around the whole room. He basically suction, cupped them to the whole room and called the boys in and they were like what the fuck? So, yeah, but he had lots of fun with that as well. But it was, yeah, dildos are fun, yeah, but they've got some historics to them as well. So they've been around for a long time and we would love to hear your stories obviously yes, send us your dildo stories, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to move on anyway, because we can talk about that all day, but we're obviously going to be changing the format slowly, so we're moving on.
Speaker 1:So what are we going to do? Dave's letter of the day.
Speaker 2:So for those listeners that have not heard this segment before, dave, gives me a letter Any alphabetic letter that I can spin on the wheel normally.
Speaker 1:And he's going to come up with five different little words, right, and I'm going to try and work out so we've got the letters A to Z written down, yeah, and then I'll spin an imaginary wheel, yeah and then my finger will go up and down the page and then I'll close my eyes and I'll stop at a letter and we'll go with that letter and we're gonna get five words.
Speaker 1:We're gonna just discuss those words briefly. So this is very off the cuff, yeah, very off the cuff, because that's what we do, that's where we do our best work. So, all right, all right, dave, spin that wheel in your head and what letter have you come up with today?
Speaker 2:okay, the letter is p matthew p p p p. You like, I've got, I've got some good p words.
Speaker 1:Yep, all right okay so hit me with what's your first word, dave? The first word I've got is pearl necklace oh, I love jewelry. Um, I know what a pearl necklace is.
Speaker 2:What is a pearl?
Speaker 1:necklace A pearl necklace is for those of you at home that don't know. Do you know what a pearl necklace is? It's when you come on somebody's chest. Now it's usually a straight term when a guy is titty-fucking someone and he comes all over her neck like fucking big droplets of glow all around her neck, basically um, so that's a pearl necklace.
Speaker 2:I don't generally do pearl necklaces most, most guys just have a fucking one load comes out and he fucking like spurts everywhere.
Speaker 1:So it's not yeah well, yeah, but I get why it looks like a pearl necklace. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but I I generally just swallow, it doesn't even go near your neck, it goes in your mouth. It goes straight in the back of my throat.
Speaker 2:So yeah, all right. Pearl necklace yeah cool, so that's a fun one, okay, next one is pegging.
Speaker 1:Pegging. This is fun. I like the word pegging. Now, what is pegging? Pegging is usually done when a man is receiving anal from a female, traditionally right with a strap on, so they might be interested in playing a bit. Um, which anal sex isn't just for gay people. All right, let me put that out there now. All right, um, anal sex that's where your erogenous zone is, if you're a man, and it is very pleasurable to take something up there. And some people, quite a lot of people it's actually way more common. You think it is, but a lot of women will actually put a strap on on and go bam, bam, bam into your husband, and that is called pegging and it is a lot of fun. It gets talked about in the media more and more lately, um, and it's on different television shows, different places. So it is lots of fun. Always use lube, always start smaller rather than larger. You're not as big as your hole isn't as big as you think it is, um, but yeah, pegging that's a lot of fun. Dave you ever done any pegging?
Speaker 2:no, I didn't know you. Just fine, I didn't get pegged, no, but anyway yeah um letter. Okay, this one, this one. I don't know if you're gonna know what it means, and I only found out literally today anyway.
Speaker 1:So the word is penis fencing so when you say penis fencing, to me what comes to mind is two guys in their full white outfits just with their cocks out, sword fighting, basically.
Speaker 2:And that's exactly what I would have thought as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Is that what it is? No, it's not actually. Is it okay, is it? Building a fence, it's sexual behavior, but it's basically the Wikipedia terminology says penis fencing is a mating behavior engaged by many species of flatworm. Flatworm, yeah, such as a flatworm is like um, like a species yeah and they basically engage in the practice of um. It's called hermaphorek, um technique which individuals?
Speaker 2:they both have eggs producing ovaries and sperm producing testes, so they're basically hermaphrodites, basically, yeah, basically, I suppose um, but it said what they do is um the flatworms fence, which is the flatworm's fence, which is the terminology using extendable two-headed dagger-like sheaths, and these sheaths are then pointed at each other in order to pierce their mate's epidermis so it's their skin and inject sperm into them, and it's known as basically inseminating through, you know, through that process of so basically Hemocoil, so basically penis fencing is when I tell somebody to go fuck himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's basically that.
Speaker 2:But it's not just flatworms, obviously, it's other species of animals that basically that have got both male and female organs, species of animal that basically that have got both male and female organs and they basically penis, fence themselves and impregnate themselves with the sperm into the ovary. So is it the first person that stabs and wins, or is it maybe, or do they both?
Speaker 1:stab each other. Who who knows? I'm gonna have to do some online searching on penis fencing that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's really weird, isn't it, you know?
Speaker 1:because that's something I've not heard of ever in my life. As I said, look, I would have thought like a sword, fighting it was sword fighting of such which it kind of fundamentally is.
Speaker 2:I do apologize if I pronounce things wrong. That's all right. That's all right, your English.
Speaker 1:you pronounce another word very wrong. Well, it's right in my life. Urinal um urinal, urinals are correct way I know and you just said urinal I know I said it for you anyway all right.
Speaker 2:What's our next word is phone sex phone sex.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not really good at this because I'm not really good on a phone, like, if you want to talk to me on a phone, you probably could only get maybe 10-15 minutes and that's it, apart from my dad, which I talk to for nearly 45 minutes an hour on the phone because we always have different stuff to chat about. Um, but phone sex I'm not really good at. I'm a visual kind of guy, um, so talking dirty to me doesn't really really work, um, but everyone knows what phone sex is. It's when you pick up the phone, you talk to someone. I think it's a you could actually do. There used to be double, oh, double five lines that you could actually call right and have phone sex with somebody, right, and they'd say are you hot?
Speaker 2:it's very fake, though it's not real. No, it's never real some people engage in that when they're having sex as well.
Speaker 1:Let me, let me give a demo, go on. So it'd be like hey, dave, what are you wearing nothing? Oh my god, that's so hot.
Speaker 2:Oh my god what are you wearing, daddy?
Speaker 1:I'm wearing a leather g-string. I've just pulled it to the side. My cock is getting so hot oh daddy, oh god, oh, I think I'm gonna, oh, I think I'm gonna you're gonna blow on me daddy. Oh, that's phone sex. All right, I hope you enjoyed that. You in the bedroom normally, but no, I don't play in those noises. They just come out and I am a little bit vocal in the bedroom. All right, what's the next word, dave?
Speaker 2:The last one. You know all about this one, matthew. Uh-oh, it's public sex. Oh yes, I do. I enjoy public sex a lot, otherwise known as in the gay world.
Speaker 1:Cruising, exactly, yeah. But public sex can be not necessarily just cruising. It can actually be going with somebody and actually having sex in public. So some of my favourite places to have sex are like in the bushes Well. I don't mind. Well, you like looking? I do like a look, but I like risky sex in public. I think it's actually quite hot.
Speaker 1:It quite a turn on it's only hot until you get caught until you get caught exactly so the with the freaking influx of cctv cameras everywhere around the planet now, um, and I'm listening to I always listen to audiobooks. I don't read, but I'm listening to a crime story at the moment, um, a really really good shandy story. It's really sad, actually, but it's really good. Um, but even back in 2013, there were so many cameras around cctv cameras around that people are getting found out left, right and center of different things. So be careful when performing public sex, because chances are you will end up on tv so with your public sex, is it just normally a one-on-one or is it group?
Speaker 1:Well, it depends. So back in my day, back when I was younger and single, before I was single again, I would go to Obelisk Beach and I would have sex in the bushes at the back there, our public sex up there, and there would be quite a few of us that would sort of gather around, not unlike when we go to church, how we gather around and we start something and then all of a sudden, um, there's like 15 people like last week, yeah, like last week all of a sudden 15 people filling up the whole room or wanting their hands everywhere and all that kind of stuff. It was similar to that, but it was out in the sunshine and it was beautiful and it was are you in full view everybody or no?
Speaker 1:no, no, no no, no, there's bush, there's.
Speaker 2:It's a big, heavy bushland, right, it's bushland is there so people wandering through the bushland at the same time not?
Speaker 1:only if you're there for that purpose, right, okay, there's very rare there would there be a, a straight person or a passerby, right um, this bushland was, so you go in there intentionally to find Intentionally to find that right and would you find people intentionally walking around as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 100%, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what do you do? Do you just hook up with the first person?
Speaker 1:No, it's just like shopping, like it should. So you basically find the one you like, right, because there's lots of them, and there is also a lot of nude sunbaking and all that kind of stuff as well there. Yep, um, so it would basically be like shopping you find what you like, they like you too. Um, you either duck off either to a different part of the bushes or you do it there, and then would you, would you?
Speaker 2:like, like you know, basically come in that session, or would you walk around again? Well, it depends.
Speaker 1:It depends on whether you got bored with it, whether they were good at what they were doing yeah, good at whether they gave a good BJ.
Speaker 2:Well, we all know what you're like anyway. You're a multiple comer anyway, so you can just all like come and go and then come and go, come and go.
Speaker 1:That's you all over, isn't it? Yeah, that's me, maxi loads. But yeah, there you go. Well, that was our letter of the day. That's Dave letters of the day. And yeah, if you want to suggest any letters, we know that there's 26 of them in the alphabet but if you want anything covered off in that as well, we can talk through that as well.
Speaker 2:Or if you've got any stories about what we discuss in these letters. Or if you've got any stories about what we discuss in these letters, then let us know as well, because we love stories.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Dave, we're going to round out this week with a list of questions. Yeah, all right. So I've got the question here, so I'm going to ask it first, yeah, and then we'll have a little bit of a chat around it. So list of questions. Do gays always have sex on a first date?
Speaker 2:What's your? My take on that, from my experience, is yes, but then that's only my take.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's very valid.
Speaker 2:I think if you're going to be sleeping with somebody, you've already made your mind that if you're getting in bed you find them enough. It's sexually attractive enough to have sex with people. That's my take on it. If you got to the bedroom already, I don't know. I mean, Well, that's my take on it.
Speaker 1:If you got to the bedroom already. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, we're talking about a first date, so the thing is just say you've decided you're going to go out to dinner, yeah but I mean, what I'm saying is, if you're on a first date and it gets to the bedroom, there's obviously some form of like connection there for you to want to have sex yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, unless you're so pissed and if I can say oh, come, just stay at my house anyway, maybe that's slightly different and then sex wouldn't happen because you're pissed anyway yeah I don't know what's your take on it.
Speaker 1:Well, I see gays first dates. I don't know if we have first dates. I think usually it's sex before we actually start dating.
Speaker 2:Quite honestly, yeah you don't even know their fucking name.
Speaker 1:Their name usually just hang on, show me your cock. Yep cool, let me suck it. Yeah, you suck mine, I'll fuck you whatever what's your name again? And then you do a bit of a cuddle and you then start chatting, you get the first cuddle as well do you Afterwards yeah, some guys just get up and walk out, don't they?
Speaker 1:I went to the like and again, I'm not up for dating. That's not who I am. No, we don't need to. It's in 2025 where I'm at Yep the other week and sort of started making out with a guy in the spa. I don't know, I wasn't there. That's why you weren't there. No, I went to the spa and we chatted for a couple of hours. Then we basically showered because it was getting really hot, and then we went back to a room and we fooled around a bit and everything like that. So we chatted and then we actually exchanged names about three hours in. So, first date it wasn't really a first date. It was a hook up at the sauna and you didn't um, but um, like, I don't think I've ever done a dating yeah, it's typical because things have changed, definitely.
Speaker 2:So go back to a scenario. Okay, we'll go back to a scenario. Say you were actually had arranged on one of the apps, yep, that you're going to go to meet up with somebody intentionally for going out for the evening for a date. For a date. Yeah, yeah I'm so I fuck on first date? Yeah, I would as well yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You're gonna see what you're getting um, unless, obviously, unless, but remember my mindset is that sex is fun, sex is healthy. Of course it is all right. So I don't have any stigma saying that like, oh, you're a slut if you fuck on first dates.
Speaker 2:I think the only way you wouldn't have sex is when that other person is not into it or doesn't want it, or if they're not who they look like on their act. Yeah, or they are. So whatchamacallit, what's the word I'm looking at? So Frigid, yeah, frigid, you know, they just don't enjoy they're probably not the person that I'm going to be with exactly so that's when you wouldn't have sex with someone on the first date. Yeah, yeah. So it's all relevant to the chemistry. It's all relevant to the scenario.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I mean it's difficult one to answer because a we don't date, yeah, we just go out and fuck but for the most part, yes, I'd say the majority of gay men have sex on the first date yeah if sex isn't the first date, that is yeah would you have sex on the second date.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it depends how good the first one was.
Speaker 2:Exactly, would you have a second date? I was going to say it depends if there is a second date really isn't there.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I'd say that, yes, listener, most of us actually do, but again, I can't speak for everyone.
Speaker 2:But just rounding it off, I mean in terms, in terms of like, when you say you have a sex, is that like full anal sex?
Speaker 1:that's probably a good question, yeah so again, um, I, if I'm going on a date, I'm going to make sure I'm ready. Yeah, right, I'm going to have douched. I'm going to make sure that I'm ready to go right. So, yeah, potentially it's open for it. Yeah, and it depends, like you know, if, but what I'm saying is making out these cocks enormous, then no anal that happens sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. But what I'm saying is do you determine sex as like oral sex, is it?
Speaker 1:oh, we discussed this the other night, didn't we?
Speaker 2:sex is basically based around what you perceive sex to be, doesn't it yeah?
Speaker 1:correct. So the thing is that we discussed was sex penetration? Yeah, was it a happy ending? Was it oral? Was it vaginal? Was it because we do talk to straight people yeah, um, vaginal, um, was it anal? What was sex? And we said look, is sex jerking off to porn? Well, these are all different topics that we can cover off at a later date. But yeah, I, I, yeah, I mean it's difficult.
Speaker 2:I mean because some people don't realize that you know, sex is sex when it's at a certain stage, or whether it's just having certain things happen to them is classified as sex as well. I mean it's all up to interpretation, isn't it really? Yeah, correct, and for me, I mean sex always has to involve kissing. I think, oh yeah, you know, there's a lot of people out there that don't necessarily want to kiss, or they are shit kisses and then that turns me off. Um, but for me, making out with somebody is probably the highlight of it. More so, yeah, because the intimate unless you get from that is what turns you on at the end of the day, isn't it really?
Speaker 1:correct. So to answer your question do all guys? We can't answer that because we're not all guys, but I can definitely say yes, I have sex on the first day yeah, cool.
Speaker 1:So it's been your fully grown homos. I've been dave. No, I've been matt. You have been me a few. So you've been your Fully Grown Homos. I've been Dave. No, I've been Matt. You have been me a few times. You've been in me. I've been in you. You've been Dave, I've been Matt. If you want to contact us, give us any questions, give us any feedback. We'd love to hear from you. And how can they do that, dave?
Speaker 2:At any of our social platforms, matthew Fully Grown Homos, at Fully Grown Homos Podcast, yep, or any of our email, which is fullygrownhomospodcastgmailcom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hit us up.
Speaker 2:And hopefully you've enjoyed this all new format as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we'll talk soon. Bye. Bye, that's a wrap from us. We've been your Fully Grown Homos and we look forward to opening your mind, your ears and your curiosities. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and share our podcast with your curious friends. You can contact us on fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom or any of our socials. Fully Grown Homos Podcast. Bye.
