Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
In our Mardi Gras season wrap-up, we discover important LGBTQ+ resources you never knew existed.
When Dave and Matt finally attend Fair Day after missing last year's event due to asbestos contamination, they discover it's much more than just a celebration—it's a vital hub for community education and support services many LGBTQ+ people don't know exist.
The duo's adventure begins with an accidental night in Newtown after a concert date mix-up, leading to surprising conversations with locals and hidden bar discoveries. But the real eye-openers come the next day at Fair Day, where they encounter organizations addressing critical but often overlooked issues affecting queer communities.
At the Positive Life NSW stall, Dave volunteers for a hands-on demonstration of what anal cancer feels like—a condition increasingly affecting younger demographics. The Sex Workers Outreach Project challenges stigmas while providing essential services. Most sobering is their visit to the DVA Foundation, revealing shocking statistics: 72% of LGBTQ+ people experiencing domestic violence never report it, often fearing their situations won't be taken seriously.
Perhaps the most thought-provoking moment comes from their straight friend's observation about how segregated the queer community appears—Bears with Bears, Twinks with Twinks—questioning how a group that advocates for inclusion can seem so internally divided. This outsider perspective sparks uncomfortable but necessary reflection about the community's true cohesiveness.
Beyond education, Fair Day offers entertainment, food, and camaraderie in an inclusive environment where straight families with children mix with all aspects of the queer community, creating hope for a more accepting future. Have you experienced similar divisions within communities fighting for inclusion? Contact us at fullygrownhomospodcast@gmail.com or on our socials to share your thoughts.
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Speaker 1:Fully Grown Homos. With Dave and Matt On today's show, we're going to do a bit of a wrap-up of our Mardi Gras season, Dave, aren't we? We are indeed, matt, so we will talk a little bit about that in a second. However, we've been a bit absent for a little while now because we've been busy busy boys. Dave, what have we been doing? What have you been?
Speaker 2:doing Well. I've been mainly concentrating on my renovations. Matt, you know it's taken over my sort of like my daily schedule at the moment because I have to get it sorted and back on the market. You know, pretty ASAP, yep, my stress levels have obviously increased tenfold. So you know you've been there supporting me for that. So I'm grateful for that. You know, in every way. And everybody else has been out there helping, you know, supporting me in my down moments, yep, and you yourself have been busy, busy boy too.
Speaker 1:I've been busy. I've started a new role as well, so it's been very full on in the training and development sort of system. Yeah, that sort of category sort of, and it's been very full on. It's learning a lot of content that I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. I know how to train and develop no problem at all. No fucking clue what I'm doing. I know how to train and develop no problem at all. But the content of what I'm developing and training on was just completely a new world for me. So when we say support, yeah, to say that my friends Dave especially, and my friends have actually been there as a support, because I've had a few days where I've definitely Questioned, spiralled hard. So support as always, yeah, lean on your friends.
Speaker 2:But it's easy, though, matt, to be hard on yourself, especially in a new role, because your expectations are to give your best. Oh yeah, and you do. It's a natural thing, and you have got the capability, and we know that.
Speaker 1:You're down four years. My self-evaluation tools are somewhat askew and I think perfection is attainable within minutes.
Speaker 2:Nothing is perfect, it's really not, it's really, really not.
Speaker 1:So you do have to be a bit easy on yourself at times, because it's not usually the people that you they're the outside people that sort of are saying hurry up and get this done. It's you, it's you and you alone, yeah, yeah. So it's definitely been a steep learning curve, but, yeah, it's been great and I've had a couple of wins last week, which has been sensational. So it's definitely been a turn around the corner and I've sort of sat there and I remembered something that one of my very early bosses said said to me and he said you don't need to know everything, you just need to know who does know.
Speaker 1:And I sat there and I'm like you're an idiot you do know everyone that knows everything, and you're just not asking them, which is something that I used to be really, really good at, obviously you're referring to yourself in that myself.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, and I'm thinking I, I am very good at knowing who knows what, because I genuinely like people and I'm genuinely interested in people. So I want to find out what they know and what they do, and it's not because I want to utilise their skills at a later time, it's just because I genuinely like it. But then I've kind of forgotten that I knew how to do that part and learn people and um, so yeah, that's why this week's been significantly look, moving forward, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you will be fine yeah, but, and with yourself like, yes, it's been a super stressful time for you, and understandably so if you look at the size of this project you've taken on. Yep, it's fucking enormous.
Speaker 2:Look, look, there's headway. I mean, I'm pretty much almost on the inside of the house now.
Speaker 1:I've seen it for the first time. Look, I've seen it intimately, obviously. I've seen it before.
Speaker 2:you bought it and things like that, and you tried to get your head around what I was doing.
Speaker 1:I kind of went what the fuck? And then I seen it about three weeks ago, four weeks ago maybe, just in its raw shell, still In its raw shell, and it was just like, yep, I kind of get where you're going. And then I seen it yesterday for the first time in three, four weeks and I went, holy fuck, it's just going to be the most spectacular place. So again, you need to be proud of yourself. Oh look.
Speaker 2:I am, you need to give yourself some time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but it's hard when you're living in a property and you renovate at the same time, because you know you don't get a break from it. You, you put that expert, like you said. You know, you put a lot of pressure on yourself to achieve and obviously my builders being so efficient the way they are. When they're there, they just don't stop. And then I have to play catch up. And then when they do multiple things together in one day, and then I've got to be the one that's got to paint and do all the other bits for them to do the next stage, it becomes overwhelming me because I mean, we're painting, you don't just do one layer, it's like three, four layers in some cases, depending on what. What you're painting. I suppose you know I mean, yeah, and then when they come along and then have to redo things over the top of the paintwork and you think, fuck, I've just got to fucking, do I've?
Speaker 2:got to really fucking paint again, yeah, and it's not their fault, it's just, obviously, you know, some things happen during the plastering stages where, if they plaster over existing painted bubbles and stuff like that, so yeah, yeah, but then we're diverting off. But look, it's amazing. It looks amazing. I mean I'll be happy when the front's done. Yeah, so I'm going with a front render and weatherboard effect, so it's going to be the very hampton style. Look from the outside. You don't know what. It's all white. It's going to be spectacular.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it. You know I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't wait till it's all finished, but fuck, am I going to give myself a break afterwards you're definitely going to give yourself a break. I am, because normally I jump straight into the next one, don't I? You know, buy and sell at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's what you've been doing, but you're not going to. I'm forcing you to have a break.
Speaker 2:I have to. I mean, I've got a few health issues as well.
Speaker 1:I love my eye and stuff, so yes, I'm, I'm actually gonna hold you down and tie you and say you're not yay, daddy, hold me down you're not gonna get access to your bank accounts, I'm gonna go on the shopping spree. I'm gonna restrain you and hold you down.
Speaker 2:Uh, hold down and restrain you'll end up buying an SOP from me, won't you? Yeah, I will, Dave. I've got a great investment property for you. Just so here.
Speaker 1:You're going to buy arrows and re-.
Speaker 2:I don't think I was going to do that.
Speaker 1:No, we'll buy something. We'll buy something better than that, yeah, and we'll just completely gut it and rebuild it from the inside out yeah. Oh God.
Speaker 2:Okay, you don't have the money for that. No, I don't. I wonder if we could get Sheree Barber on board. Renovation for profit, sop style you could do a new show.
Speaker 1:Couldn't you A new?
Speaker 2:show Get your own line.
Speaker 1:Hang on For people that don't know what an SOP is. Dave, what's that? It's a sex on premises. Yeah, it's basically a sauna, what we we call church. Um, so, yeah, um, where you're gonna get fucking laid. Yeah, um, which has been a couple of weeks for me. Um, getting itchy, longer for me, longer for him. Yeah, but I thought I didn't want to go and do it midweek this week when I might have potentially had an opportunity on a wednesday night or something like that, because I thought we got the um. We got our, our sexual health clinic not annual, our regular sexual health clinic on On Wednesday. No, on Monday coming. Oh, monday, yes, sorry, yeah, so I thought I don't want to go and get infested before I go and get checked. No, I'll wait till after, but on Wednesday we've got the club anyway. Yeah, I know, but I could have always called in sick for the club and gone and got dicked. How?
Speaker 2:rude, I could have.
Speaker 1:That's. I could have subbed in and went. Hey, you know what, we're getting a bit late anyway. So, all right, let's get into our Mardi Gras season. Yep, All right. What was our Mardi Gras season like?
Speaker 2:Very, very sparse, Very sparse Now that's not like us.
Speaker 1:Look the last few years, especially since I've been single or year and a half or whatever it's been, I don't know anymore Two years Coming, year and a half or whatever it's been, I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 2:Two years Coming up to three. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm getting confused. No, you've been here over two years, mate. Okay, alright, cool. Well, anyway, however long it's been since we've known each other, our Mardi Gras season's been quite the full on event, alright. So where are you looking?
Speaker 2:Dave, I'm just looking at my nail. I've got paint in it. Look at me, I'm talking to somebody. I've just got paint in my nail.
Speaker 1:Stop getting distracted because you won't be able to listen to me. My nails are painted white, yeah, I know, no doubt your nails are painted, you, princess.
Speaker 2:Not painted with that paint.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we See, and now I've lost my train of thought Talking about have Mardi Gras. Yeah, we basically haven't gone. We didn't do anything, apart from one thing. Now I make absolute all efforts to go to this event every year because I think it's the best event on the Mardi Gras calendar. And that is I think it's the best event on the Mardi Gras calendar. I just said I did. I didn't say everyone thinks it is, but I personally think it's's my favourite. Well, it's my favourite, not the best.
Speaker 2:It's a good one to go to. Yeah, it's Fair Day. That's the style of it all.
Speaker 1:And I love Fair Day for what it brings to the community. Yep Right Now. It's usually a very inclusive day. Everyone gets together, everyone's there to have fun, to have a picnic, to enjoy the day, the whole thing from woe to go. We went this year, couldn't go last year because of the asbestos problems.
Speaker 1:Yeah they cancelled it last year because there was like asbestos bark everywhere around the parks that they were held in, so they cancelled it last minute. So to say I was hankering for it this year was an understatement. Yep, now, just before Fair Day, what happened, dave? Where were we supposed to go on the Saturday? So we were supposed to on the Fair Day. I'm going to give you a quick rundown of what was supposed to happen on Fair Day Day. Right, we were supposed to pick our friends up from Plumpton. Oh, yes, sorry, yes, and we were supposed to go off to fair. They enjoy the day into the evening, however long we were there for. Come home, chill, relax.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That wasn't the case.
Speaker 2:The night before we were actually going to Newtown. For those that aren't in Australia, newtown is a suburb within Sydney.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a really cool suburb.
Speaker 2:It's a really cool suburb. It's a very, very cool suburb. It's very multicultural, it's very gay-friendly, yep.
Speaker 1:It's just a cool place to be. It's got a really good theatre there which is like the Anmore Theatre, yep, which has got some of the best shows.
Speaker 2:It's a 1930s theatre isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they've maintained it. It's if you get to see a band there, you get to see the band there, right, and you get to feel every single bit.
Speaker 2:You don't need to be on the floor, you can be seated and you still get that you still get the feel, you get the vibe.
Speaker 1:It's very like. It's a. I think it's about two thousand seats.
Speaker 2:I think it's about three thousand altogether. Oh, I don't know. Whatever it is, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not like it's not super big it's not an 80 000 stadium or something like that, no, so it's just quite a small intimate. It's got good acoustics in there, fucking great, especially for the band that we've seen, which was omd right which is orchestral manoeuvres in the dark right, very famous 80s group yes that that band and you didn't know them all, did you?
Speaker 2:I mean, it was one of my favorite bands growing up in the 80s.
Speaker 1:I knew a couple of their songs, yeah, right, um, but I liked their sound. But then when we were there listening I found I knew more of their songs than I actually knew. I knew right, which was quite good, but even the songs they didn't know, I really enjoyed it. Like these guys were not young guys anymore.
Speaker 2:I mean, they're older than us. They're like 10 years older than us, so they're in their 60s, but they still were rocking.
Speaker 1:But they were rocking and they were having a ball and we were having a ball in turn. It was a great thing.
Speaker 2:And the demographic, however, hang on.
Speaker 1:However, when was that concert?
Speaker 2:according to you. Well, it was Saturday, which was the day before Fair Day, fair Day, so this is what happened, looseners. So we, we went into new town.
Speaker 1:We had a great day. We went in, we had a beer um pub had some really nice pizza at um ggs in new town. If you, if you are from sydney or if you're traveling to sydney, go to ggs in new town. It's a vegan um restaurant but they have the best vegan pizza they're all made fresh and they're all so different in terms of you know just delicious.
Speaker 2:They're not. They're not manufactured. They're all no different in terms of yeah, so grilled, just delicious. They're not manufactured, they're all no, no.
Speaker 1:It's delicious, right, but not sponsored, unfortunately. But if they want to throw us a pizza, we'll love it. But all seven but went to Gigi's. Had a bit of a wander around Newtown.
Speaker 2:And then we were meant to go to the show at 7 o'clock. We went to the show. We lined up as we do outside, got to the front scanned our tickets.
Speaker 1:I had the tickets on my phone, didn't I? Because?
Speaker 2:they booked this right, because normally I don't organize all these things. You normally organize all the music, yeah, yeah. So I had control over this one and of course you know I had notification that day said yes, you know the, you know the show starting, you know welcome and everything, blah, blah, blah. I just scanned it and didn't check it. So went to check in.
Speaker 2:Didn't check. Okay, went to check in blah, blah, blah and no, it wouldn't scan. The guy said it wouldn't scan. So I said, okay, check the other one. No, he said I'm going to send you to the box office because there might be a problem with the ticket you might need to get, like paper tickets. Walked over to the office, showed her the phone, she had a look and then she had another look and then she had another look and then she looked at us and she goes it's tomorrow, it's tomorrow night, ie Friday night. So what did we do, matt? So what?
Speaker 1:we ended up doing was wandering around Newtown. We made the most of a night. We went down to the Imperial, which was epic.
Speaker 2:Which we watched a really cool drag show. Right, I had a couple of drinks. It's very weird in there.
Speaker 1:It's very different. Now it's a different vibe. It's been taken over by a very different, so there's lots of like small little areas upstairs like eateries, yeah, where it used to be really cool bars and sort of like.
Speaker 1:Like the imperial was always kind of like the main bar. That was where priscilla priscilla, queen of the desert, was filmed, was filmed yeah, yeah, it was that bar. And then there was sort of a bar downstairs and then a bit of a bar upstairs, right, but not like the bar upstairs where you cruise your cocktail lounge type thing. Now, what it is upstairs is actually about 15 different disjointed rooms and it's just a big pizzeria, basically a big pizza place. Right, it still had a good vibe.
Speaker 1:It still had a good vibe. We had a ball, but it was notably full of hens and people out there celebrating hens nights and whatever it is parties and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:It's lost that sort of main vibe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look, and there was a lot of the queer community there still and that was great to see. Good eye candy, great eye candy, candy, great eye candy, very great eye candy. But then when we left the Imperial, we walked out. We walked out and there was a guy there with two schnauzers talking to another guy yeah, talking to another guy, just on the pedestrian crossing. Yep, now I've got Chanel, my little mini schnauzer, and I've got Blondie, obviously, my toy poodle. But whenever I see a snauzer I can't help but stop and give him a pat and stuff like that. And there were brothers with me, yeah, two brothers, right, and um, I was giving them a pat and chatting to the owner a little bit and before you know it, fucking 45 minutes later we've discussed fucking world peace and come up with solutions for everything, um, but he's so engaging his name daniel, daniel, yeah he actually um told us.
Speaker 2:He was a very good looking guy, wasn't he? Yeah? Yeah, definitely wanted to take him home. But um married straight guy, yeah, supposedly yeah got a kid, he. But he thinks he said he enjoyed going to the emerald because he enjoyed the vibe, he felt safe, he felt he was really good obviously since he's taken over.
Speaker 1:Sorry imperial.
Speaker 2:So since he's been taken over, he said he's, he's lost that real.
Speaker 1:It's lost its queerness.
Speaker 2:Yeah and he sort of Again. That's standard for a lot of people in the straight community. They like going to gay bars and they feel safe and they enjoy the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, it's just the atmosphere and what it should be. It's just fun and there's no-one sitting there looking to pick a fight with you or anything like that for looking at your business.
Speaker 2:We've seen this happen on Oxford Street. We've seen a lot of straight people go to the gay bars there. Haven't we? Yeah, we have. You know what I mean? We have?
Speaker 1:But we chatted with him for a good 45 minutes. He told us about another couple of hidden gems in Newtown, and then he walked off with us, didn't he In our minds? He walked off, or we walked home with him and he put the schnauzers fucking high heaven. Um, no, that's not what I was, just our fantasy. That's just just what happened in our brains.
Speaker 2:Um, and then so we, we wandered around a bit more, but he took us to because he was carrying walking one. He said I'll show you some cool places to go to boys. Yeah, and he mentioned what was it. I can't remember. It was a very. It was a very, not strange, it was a very, it's cool. It's a very, not strange, it was a very it's cool. It's a very cool bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very cool and you, basically you walk down a set of stairs.
Speaker 2:Is it the? I can't remember what it was called.
Speaker 1:It's a weird name anyway, but it was cool. It was just one room, wasn't it? It was a hidden bar or something like that.
Speaker 2:it was called yeah, but the atmosphere when you walk in was very bougie, yeah, very moody, but you got into like dark and dim but it was like really quite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it reminded me a bit of like a speakeasy kind of bar, like one of those really cool sort of 1970s sort of art deco-y style, just really cool. You could imagine that they're with like a singer and a sort of jazz.
Speaker 2:It wasn't opulent, but it was just very classy looking, wasn't it, you know? I mean, it was very moody.
Speaker 1:It was moody and it was very cool, but um so you went through curtains and all this kind of stuff literally yeah, glory holes were the other side. No, they went, unfortunately but yeah, otherwise it would have stayed a lot longer but they have like acts of stuff, magician acts, but yeah they have different acts and different things there, but I can't remember the name. No, but for the life of me.
Speaker 2:And I won't. We went somewhere else after that, didn't we? We checked out somewhere else before we went home.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, we had a kebab, you had a kebab.
Speaker 2:We checked out those two guys that we were arguing that they came in and made up. Yeah, it was quite cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we ended up having a really good night in Newtown, by the way, regardless of the concert concert, yeah. But then the next morning we woke up, we went sort of picked up our friends Dick and Fanny, yep, um right, and we basically went off to fair day with them and, um, we were meeting, we met another friend yeah. Sammy, let's call her Sammy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, her name is Sammy, so we're gonna call her Sammy because we can't. She's fine, she did say what she wanted to be called yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:it was Lolita or something like that. I can't remember, but we'll ask her anyway Because she's named Sammy now. All right, yeah.
Speaker 2:She knows who we're talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we met up with her and sort of seen a few other friends.
Speaker 2:And our friend Ray. Yeah, yeah, he came down from the Central Coast because he's to his mum's place on the central coast.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:So I met up with everyone, did a bit of a wander around Fairday and we got there for about half past ten, so it already started about eight o'clock, hadn't it.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't start till ten. I think we got there about 11.30. Oh, 11.30, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we got there we have friends that have on the Central Coast, yep Best.
Speaker 1:If you're after puppy dog products, like as in bow ties and all those kind of, and Dan makes all these things by hand.
Speaker 2:He had a stroke and he got Tinker as a support dog and then they formed this brilliant, amazing. Well, he did it to start with just for fun.
Speaker 1:It was like for something to do. And now it's turned into this thriving business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're doing so well.
Speaker 1:Because it's a fucking great product. Have a look at their thing. Yeah, tinker Co, it's just like it's awesome, go if you've got puppies. Even if you don't have puppies, some of their neckerchiefs look really good on humans. And their friend Cherie few things she does, the lead tag.
Speaker 2:Sacks yeah.
Speaker 1:Zoomies Dogs. Yeah, Zoomies Dogs. I think it is Okay. Yeah, and as well, and she does the lead tags.
Speaker 2:now, she's very creative as well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1:The lead sleeves. They're cold, right, like I've got. I bought a couple. One says for Blondie, it says don't pat, god, she does right. And Chanel. I got one that says and it doesn't say the actual word, but it says I bark at cunts, right, but it's got C, dash, dash, t's. So you know what it is. It's like, basically, I bark at cunts and she does so. It's really fitting and they're really cute. But yeah, that was one of the many, many stalls we visited at a fair day, absolutely. Now to say we had some conversations while we were there. That's a lot of what we did because we conversed with a lot of different people.
Speaker 2:I mean there's a lot of things that we've already covered in previous podcasts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we weren't talking too much in depth.
Speaker 2:But we learned a lot during that day, didn't we?
Speaker 1:Fair day was extremely informational right Now. They've always got a lot of education on hand there at Fair Day, right. So we're going to call out probably a couple of our key things that we think are actually really good and something that we didn't know, right we didn't know right. So, like our first one, we got to go.
Speaker 2:It was the very first stand we went to, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:It was literally very first stand we went to, wasn't it? It was literally the first stand we walked in, because we walked in, turned left and bam, it was there, and so they were handing out little bags with every. Can I tell you, I must have about fucking 20 fans Wristbands I've got fans, I've got wristbands. Condoms I've got stress balls, I've got condoms, I've got freaking everything. But this stand was the first one we stumbled upon and it was supported by. Is it HIV? It is supported by. Positive Life NSW is the actual group and their website is positivelifeorgau.
Speaker 2:Definitely definitely check it out. Check it out because you'll find so much information we're going to give you a really, really brief account of what they do, so we were introduced to the, the guy called andrew andrew heslop, and he's the senior health promotion and peer navigator officer as part of that group. Now andrew himself has uh, you know, has has basically got cancer, or he's had cancer, diagnosed with cancer, and what he was explained to us was anal cancer and they were trying to install people. Um, how much anal cancer is on the rise?
Speaker 2:I've never heard of anal cancer. I've heard of it but it's not. Looking at statistics, it's not a big cancer but it's on the rise.
Speaker 1:I'd heard of bowel cancer. Yeah Right, these are two different things.
Speaker 2:But he was saying that the anal cancer is now on the rise to men and women, yep, especially in the younger demographic of people, yep, and he had like a mock-up.
Speaker 1:He had a mannequin, like you do when you go to a first aid course, right, and they've got the full-body mannequin where you've got to perform your CPR and all that kind of stuff. So they had a butt basically with the anal cavity and stuff like that and they said do you want to put your finger inside? Put your finger in and see what anal cancer feels like yeah.
Speaker 1:So I kind of I'm a fucking child. All right, I am a child. I sat there and I'm giggling and I'm gone. Nah, not for me, okay, I'm not fingering this guy's asshole in the middle of a park. All right, look, if it was a real guy and he had a nice hairy hole, I'd fucking stick my whole hand in there. That's not an issue for me. No, I wouldn't. I'm not a fisting fan. But have you got fans? I haven't got fans. Probably got fans about fisting. But yeah, I'm not about to sit there and stick my finger in somebody's hole.
Speaker 2:He lubed me up, didn't he he?
Speaker 1:So he lubed me up, didn't he? He lubed, he put the glove on Dave.
Speaker 2:He made me do everything properly. You know what I mean. Put the lube on, put the lube on, and then I had to put my index finger into this.
Speaker 1:I wish I was going to, and I don't know why I didn't. I wish I had have at least recorded the sound, because the sounds Dave was making when he was actually fingering this hole it was like oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2:Look, there's things that I know and I felt myself you know what I mean before.
Speaker 1:But Dave was explaining it as he was going through the process.
Speaker 2:So basically what they'd done is they'd put multiple different elements that are common within the rectum, if that makes sense, yeah. So they put a prostate in there so you got to feel what the prostate felt like and you know they make you move your finger around so you can feel what it feels like properly, and stuff like that. They put some hemorrhoids in there, Hemorrhoids yeah. So you got to feel what they felt like as well. I've had both of them, so I know exactly what they're like.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah. But then he turned around, said look, you know you got to put it a little bit further up. And he said look, move your finger to the left. The day bosses watch, yeah. And as I moved my finger, I could feel this like like a ridge. And he said, like, what are you feeling? I said like well, I feel the ridge, he goes. Well, put your finger further up. So put my finger further up and it fell into like a hole. So the only way I can describe it it was like a donut, a small donut. So what I was feeling on the outside was the circumference of the donut, if that makes sense, the actual round part of it. And then my finger was going into the hole and that is classic indication of anal cancer. So, yeah, so for me that was like like holy shit, that was like very informative. But he was just like wow, it was great.
Speaker 1:And look and um, what's his name again, andrew's knowledge on said virus. Now, like I said, he's been diagnosed with it. There's two different types.
Speaker 2:He said wasn't there 16 and 18 or something.
Speaker 1:So the HPV virus is basically the cause. The cause and there's like different markers throughout the HPV virus Categories isn't there that you have? And there's so many of them. And again, he was an expert, he was fucking sensational and we do want to get guests on, but I'm still struggling with his tech part of it. But yeah, I will test it. I will actually test it later this week with Dave and see if I can work out if he phones in, if I can still record via the phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we'll work it out so we can actually get some of these people on to chat about it properly, because it's very awkward getting people here right.
Speaker 1:Because you know you live. You know Well, I live at Woop Woop and everybody else lives in Sydney. Yeah, but yeah, everyone else lives in the city. So if I can get them by the time, but we've also got to try and organise a time and a day that suits everybody.
Speaker 2:Suits everyone as well, and it's hard yeah.
Speaker 1:But look, his information was sensational. Now what Dave's just explained to you, with going out although I definitely want everyone going out sticking their fingers up their ass because it feels good, but I want you I don't want you going out there and sticking your finger in and checking and thinking, oh shit, I've got cancer.
Speaker 1:What you do need to do, though, is be aware and go to positivelifeorgau and find out. Do some research and find out where you some research right and find out where you can get tested for this. Find out what, because it's on the rise, and he said that early detection was the key for this particular type of anal cancer. Yep, so early detection and it can pretty much be fixed.
Speaker 2:And they're based in Sydney as well. They're based in Surrey Hills, aren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 1:But no doubt there'll be other links that we can take you to look.
Speaker 2:I mean, that was just like the start of the actual day, wasn't? It was the start of the day, so and look, and it just got you know more and more sort of like information given to us, and we were having chats with everybody? Weren't we as many as we could? I mean, there's stuff, stuff that we knew about, that we didn't need to sort of like know, but we still had the time and courtesy to talk to them as well well, because the thing is that some things I find really interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right now, like I stopped at a stand which was um swap, which is the sex workers outreach program, basically um, and I'm not about to go into sex work at any time, but there's a lot of um stigma around sex work and stuff like that. Yeah, and I don't just female sex worker at any time, but there's a lot of stigma around sex work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Is this female sex worker or male Sex worker?
Speaker 1:Yeah, of all kinds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So the thing is that it's an industry that's been thriving since before time. Exactly, it's about pre-Victorian times. Well, we all have itches. We all need them scratched. Yep Right.
Speaker 2:But it's still frowned upon in some circumstances and I just don't get it right. They provide the service and they're doing people justice by doing that, you know yeah, so you bet they are.
Speaker 1:There's like with sex work there's so many different people that they service, so they can. Whether it be people that are feeling alone, um, people with private escorts, whether it's in the massage, whether it's stripping and dancing, they are all falling through the um the category of sex workers. Whether people are having sex for food, sex for drugs, sex for a place to stay, um, like I said.
Speaker 1:Whether it's street based, like private, whatever like there's, there's so many different categories of sex worker, um, so, and and these guys were again a great um information source, basically, and they have a website.
Speaker 1:Well, actually, I think it's more social media and it's just swop new south wales, right, so swop new south wales, right. And New South Wales, right, so SWOP New South Wales, right, and that's their Twitter, their Instagram and on Facebook, their Sex Workers Outreach Project, right, so check out their information as well, if it's something that you think you can actually benefit from, because I had a chat with the two people that were there, right, and I don't want to actually assign them any genders, because I believe that one of them was transgender, but again, I didn't. I probably did ask, because I do ask what is your pronouns, what are your gender, what's your gender Usually, especially if I'm uncertain, but I don't want to assign them a pronoun or a gender on our show because, again, I can't remember because that was about four weeks ago now, I feel, and my brain doesn't retain the information for more than five minutes generally, and I didn't take any notes that day at all, and he's not lying.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not lying. My brain does not fucking retain any information.
Speaker 2:You can't multitask. He's the only man I know cannot multitask.
Speaker 1:Every man can't multitask.
Speaker 2:Yes, he can. Gay men can multitask. No, they can't. That's a lie. That's a lie. You need to go on a multitasking course.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't think I couldn't task multis enough to task it. So there were a couple of the stands we visited.
Speaker 2:There was one that I went to with Fanny Well, and so there were a couple of the stands we visited. There was one that I went to with Fanny Well I haven't got the information here because it was in my bag and my bag's at my house, yep and it was about organ donations and I think it's just like standard New South Wales or Australia-wide organ donations and they're explaining basically they are still lacking organ donations. So the reason being is because there was such a precedence on who could donate blood and organs, yep, in the past, with people with mad cow disease, hiv and all this stuff, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:They even recall that if you were gay, you couldn't donate.
Speaker 2:No, exactly no. But it's all changed. Everything's changed now because they realize that's bullshit. We've been fed so much bullshit in the past, you know I mean. So now they've realized, yes, you know, everybody's free to do this. I mean, obviously there will be people that have got certain ailments, like I've got diabetes, so maybe my blood isn't sort of like good enough for them to use. Yeah, there might be other things, I guess still donate my organs and stuff, like she said. And she said the thing is not lately. You're full bastard, you fall apart um he's definitely catching on me, um but um.
Speaker 2:But like she said, you know, normally you could put on your driver's license, you know, but that's been removed now. So I think it's just a case. I think she said that's been removed as in you know, or people don't know that you can actually submit that. I'll have to check the information. Don't quote me on that because I might just be getting it all wrong. But in generalization she was just saying that people these days still are not willing to donate organs because they don't know enough about it or they have been told in the past that they're not eligible or they can't for some reason. Now she said, look, the best thing to do is just put it down as yes, I mean, you can choose which organs you do want to do because, like I know there's everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah know there's some people that don't want their eyes taken.
Speaker 2:Some people have. I mean, at the end of the day, it's a body. When you're dead, you're dead. Your soul still goes off wherever it goes, but your body is there to help, hopefully, other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So look, I've put down on my list that I want my penis donated. What for medical science?
Speaker 2:Or just as a tribute to your legacy.
Speaker 1:No, can you imagine the poor bastard that got my dick right. They want a mileage log with it and I don't even know if I could provide that. They want to know where it's been, how it's been used. Could you imagine if it went to your brother? He'd be very disappointed. He'd never touch it again, or maybe he might. No, okay, no and no and no, not going there at all. But if my dick was donated to somebody and it had to come with like a come, well, um, if it had to like literally um, come with a where it's been, what it's done, I couldn't provide that.
Speaker 1:What you couldn't provide the tag no, like the where it's been list.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it would have. Like a tree, has little rings on it. It tells you where and when and what time of year you were there. Mine should be significantly bigger if it has rings on it you probably find your penis is getting bigger because it's growing which it is.
Speaker 1:Maybe every year you've got a different ring around it, but organ donor go, and that's not cock rings either if it is on your license, I'm pretty sure it's on your new south wales.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't remember. I mean, I mean I'm pretty sure, but mine's on there, but I'm pretty sure she said that it's been removed or there's.
Speaker 1:I don't know check it out there's changes to please please, please.
Speaker 2:If you are uncertain then and you want to donate your organs, then please do donate your organs. There's so many people and it's like I would say to her right, people need. There will be one opportunity in your life maybe, or a family member or yourself, that is desperate to have that, and you know you've always said no, I'm never going to donate, donate, donate, and then your life is changed by someone else donating. Yeah, and you know the decent thing is like. You know, at the end of the day we're just a vessel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know it doesn't matter, somebody can go in the ground, does it get burnt?
Speaker 2:so why waste it? Why waste? I don't care you what I'm getting cooked, yeah, but I mean, if you can take as much out of you beforehand that can be used to help could you imagine?
Speaker 1:how many? People that you could save yeah, correct, absolutely, and I'm, I'm, I'm down for that. That's what I said.
Speaker 2:Look, I literally would say I mean your eyes are the beautiful and other people, people. Yeah, I know Well, imagine if they actually.
Speaker 1:Once I get my lenses in, oh wow, then it'll be like, wow, matt has got beautiful eyes. I do have pretty eyes. I've been told this significantly.
Speaker 2:And if they don't have my eyelashes, that'd be amazing. Yeah, but I think all your family have got beautiful eyes. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1:We're really lucky. We definitely got eyes there and that obviously contributed to it as well. You've got a beautiful heart too. Yeah, sometimes, yeah sometimes I'm a cunt, but it's a different story.
Speaker 2:But yeah, um, all, right now, okay before. No, we visited quite a lot of standards.
Speaker 1:Basically, let's jump into this, let's just jump into this last one and then I'm going to give you what our visitors that we took along with us. I discussed what their thoughts were as an overarching. But let's just discuss this last one, dave, because this is really important and not spoken enough in the queer community. Look, it's spoken about daily from some perspectives and it shouldn't happen in the world at all, but it's very rarely spoken about in the queer community, and that is domestic violence.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, yep, and there's so many different forms and so many different varieties within that subgroup. Now, the two guys I spoke to, I can't remember what their names are, but I've got a link to their website because they're fully self-funded. Sorry, I'm walking away from the microphone.
Speaker 1:So their website again dvafoundationorg right and they are self-funded.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the two guys that set it up very passionate about what they do. They know everything about it. They've experienced domestic violence themselves and I think people that have actually had that are the best people to give advice to. But saying that, I think everybody at some point in their life will either have had it or experience it or know someone that has experienced it. And it's not just the gay community. It happens obviously everywhere, but the LGBTQ community doesn't get enough. What's it called exposure?
Speaker 1:It's almost taboo, because if a man hits another man and I'm using domestic violence in its simplest form when I say hits, yep, all right, because there's so much more, and dave's going to duck into that because he's got all the pamphlets right but if I say a man hits another man and we, there's a stigma about going to the police because we think, well, he's a man, he's hit me and I'm a man, so the police are going to look at me and go. So what? Just a couple of guys hitting each other. Right, and it's not that you don't have to put up with domestic violence. Right, there is help out there for you. Um, the police are a source of help. Um, hopefully, um, and if you're in a queer relationship, there, there will be an LGBTQ police officer liaison at your police station, because there was a police officer that was abused wasn't there in the courtrooms apparently?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I think that's a lot of why they actually sort of brought this about was because this police officer had been abused, yep, and the courtroom looked at him and laughed because he was a big, burly guy and he was a police officer.
Speaker 2:And a police officer.
Speaker 1:So why would? And he was so hesitant in reporting because he's seen the systems. But he did report and so it was actually there right, and so there'll be changes that happen. So I mean it does happen in our community, sadly. It's not something to be ashamed of. If you're on the receiving end of domestic violence, violence, report it.
Speaker 2:Well it's got a credit On one of the pamphlets they've got. It's got creating positive change starts with you, and it says more than 60% of LGBTQ people will experience violence or abuse with an intimate partner or family member in their lifetime. And again, the family member is so important. There's so much abuse that's happened in the past and still happening, you know what I mean within members of people of the family that abuse more friends of families. And then it's got 72% of the LGBTQ community who experienced domestic family violence did not report any of the abuse at all, and that's standard. Again, yeah, you know it's that. It's stupid stats. 1.7% of LGBTQ people reported their abuse to their employers. So still very low. And it happens in the workplace as well. You think about it, you know. I know things are changing, but they're still very, very far?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course there's still so much improvement here. Yeah, you know, still very, very fast. Still so much improvement here. Yeah, you know, um, and then finally it's got 2.3 percent of lgb people, uh, reported their abuse to a domestic and family violence service. Yeah, so, and there are services out there, you know, I mean there are some services out there.
Speaker 1:They got near listed on there. What I would say is go to their website, which is, like I said before, dvafoundationorg, right, but I would basically do that. Now there is actually a Domestic Violence Awareness Day and that happens on the 28th of May, right? So if you go to dvafoundationorg, you can actually find out a little bit more about that Domestic Violence Awareness Day. Now these guys actually do a run of a series of courses that you can actually self-paced learning online.
Speaker 1:So if you want to actually learn a little bit more about it, so, not because you may not have actually been in the situation, but bystander toolkits are fantastic, right, there's a bystander toolkit, right, and you can do something about it, because hopefully, you'll never be in this situation, right, hopefully, but, but you need to be as a bystander. You can recognize that it is abuse. You can respond um, it says how, how can you help? Right, and then you can refer to a suitable service. So you might not be the person that's being abused, but there's three little steps. So respond, recognise, respond and refer Three simple steps to help somebody with it.
Speaker 2:And you might be saving your life or someone else's life.
Speaker 1:Now, not part of the queer community, this person that I assisted, but there was somebody in my not my living space, but within my vicinity that lives in the complex where I was, and she was basically part of a domestic violence situation. So she reached out to you. She reached out to me because I could see that she was struggling one day and I said to her you okay, um, because she looked like she was about to break, and I said are you okay? And she was like, no, this is the situation. I said look, do you want to talk? And because I'm me, right, um, she opened up, right, and so I'm a vault in that sense. That's why I'm not giving any names or anything like that, nothing but, um, she opened up. I insisted that she give me her number, right, and said that, and I gave her mine and I said look, anything you want me to look out for, right, anything you need, any moment of the day, the night, text me. I put her into my favorites so that that way, if it was the middle of the night and I'm on sleep mode, her number will come through, right. If she texted or rang, all right, um, I said I am at the front of the building. I can basically get the police here asap. All right, um, so I got her details.
Speaker 1:She asked me that if I could look out with her the separate former partner, him, because she'd sort of separated from him but he kept harassing and basically threatening um. I said all right, if I see his car, either here or in the street anywhere, I'll just send you a quick text. If you don't respond, I'll call the police. All right, she said that'd be really good. Thank you so much and all that. So so it's just about looking out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, um, turns out about a week and a half, two weeks later I did see his car, so I'd sent her a message and 30 minutes later I didn't get a response and so I'd sent another message, said just just letting you know I'm about to call the police. And then she responded pretty much within seconds and said oh, it's okay, we're back together. Classic example. Unfortunately, it was a week or so later and then she ended it completely with him. Thankfully, she had the fortitude to do that. But I then had a bit of a chat with her and said look, you don't need that shit. Like you know, you're a beautiful human from inside to out, yep. Like we don't need to put up with crap.
Speaker 2:Like this from people, and sometimes being on your own is the best thing, because you don't have to be submitted to that sort of abuse. And look, he needed to seek help as well. But I didn't have a relationship with him, no right, so I didn't. He came across as very sort of like nice, nice guy and all that kind of stuff they always do, you know, I mean yeah yeah, so look, I mean, like I said, there are some red flags and some green flags.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to go through all of them, but some, some of the red flags, like, they monitor and control where you go, what you see, who you talk to. All right, that's never good.
Speaker 2:But you've got to understand that is Disregard your boundaries. Yeah, but you've got to understand that that is something you probably aren't seeing. You know, it's just a controlling method and that's down to them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So look, I mean, if you see some of those flags, they're inconsiderate and have unpredictable moods, Right, all right, now let's not use that one as a red flag all the time, because, no, I have unpredictable moods, yeah but you're not violent, but I'm not inconsiderate at all.
Speaker 1:They invalidate your gender identity or gender expression. So, again, if you're trans or non-binary and you're with a partner that's identifying as male and they're not actually they're going trans, doesn't matter, all right, that's not the person for you, yeah, all right, generally not the person for anyone, but, no, um, they need to seek help and education, right, but, um, they're definitely not the person for you, right, and they often put you down. Do not stand for that shit. All right, do not stand for that, like there's plenty of other people out there yeah, so there's some people out there that will.
Speaker 1:You are free to have your own friendships.
Speaker 2:You don't see the red flags straight away. I mean, they sputter you, they give you all of what they need and then, eventually, the controlling starts yeah I mean narcissistic behavioral traits is exactly that.
Speaker 2:I've been through it. I think you said you went through once. Yeah, um, and yeah, I mean, when you sort of open your eyes and then look back at all the evidence that is submitted to you by people that are telling you these things, then you think what the fuck did I? Why didn't I act on this? Why didn't I see these things?
Speaker 1:yeah, you don't because you are so engrossed in that person yeah, so anyway, we, anyway, we're going to wrap this up there, but look on this side, yeah On that part, yeah On that one. So remember that all this information can go. You can go to dvafoundationorg, right, and find out a ton more information there.
Speaker 2:All right, and that was only a few stands that was a couple, I mean they had so many stands to talk to dave loves a chat.
Speaker 1:I do, as you all know. All right, I don't mind a chat either guy. Frankly, um, I was aware, um, throughout most of the day, that we had some friends with us as well, that I wanted them to experience as much of fair day as they possibly could. Now, fair Day in itself is fundamentally. There is a lot of information stands, but there's a lot of places to buy shit as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, support the community.
Speaker 1:So you can actually go up and down. It's like a giant big market, it is.
Speaker 2:And they sell not just LGBTQ stuff, it's everything, everything. It's like a market.
Speaker 1:If you wanted LGBT stuff. There's a lot of small business owners, like the girl from the previous podcast. Oh my God, I can't remember.
Speaker 2:One of the knitted stuff, the one that does all the knitted stuff?
Speaker 1:She was there. I've got her name here somewhere they Craft, that's right, they Craft. She was actually at Fair Day and she was selling her crocheted butt plugs and things like that. There, she was actually at fair day and she was selling her, her, um, crocheted butt plugs and things like that. There, she does make animals. They sorry, they were there, not she. Sorry, I apologize, um, but I don't mean to. I didn't mean to misgender you then. Sorry, um, they were there and they, um, were selling their stuff. So, and it was great, but there's lots of things that you can actually buy there. However, I asked our friends Dick and Fanny, right, and Sammy.
Speaker 2:And Sammy.
Speaker 1:And Ray, but I asked Dick and Sammy More so, yeah, dick and Fanny more so what their overall vibe was on the day, and dick's comment to me was that it's a really cool vibe. It's really such a from an outsider looking in, I can see that there is some equality right and there is some community, he said. However, what I'm failing to understand is that how, if you want one community and you want equality, how everything seems to be so disjointed and so boxed in and from what I mean by boxed in, or what he means by boxed in, was that the Bears were with the Bears. Yep, the Twinks were with the Twinks.
Speaker 2:The Muscle.
Speaker 1:Boys were with the Muscle Boys. The trans community were with the trans community.
Speaker 2:The Fairies were with the Fairies, the twinks were with the twinks, the muscle boys with the muscle boys.
Speaker 1:the trans community. We were with the fairies, with the fairies, the fairies with the fairies, like there was, etc.
Speaker 2:Etc there was no real intermingling there was no demographic cohesion. Was there no?
Speaker 1:there was, there was, look, there was just, it was very, very singular in every way pick a box and you fit there and that's where you go, right? Yeah, and we've known this in the game. We've seen this because we're part of the community, so we know that, like you know, if we walk into Ark, for example, we're not necessarily going to be looked at and welcomed, right, but I'm also at 53 years of age, I don't really want to go to Ark anymore.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I wanted to go.
Speaker 1:But the thing is, it's just like there is certain parts of the community that really judge you for being not what you fit in. You don't fit their tick in the box. And I didn't say did you notice? He kind of went this is just really obvious. It's just different than what I thought he said, because you guys, all we hear in the media and from an external source is equality, equality, equality, which he says, and like diversity, and like let's all become one, he said, but you're not even one within your own community. No, he said, and he likened it to racism, right of a degree. He said, like he's Filipino, right, and he said, well, he's fucking Aussie, right, he's not Filipino, but, to look at, he's Filipino. Yeah, and I said, but he sort of basically said look, it's like this community doesn't work well with this community as such from a racism perspective.
Speaker 2:And that's interesting because he's not part of the community. So for him to see. That emphasises what we already know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which what we already know is that boxers and all that kind of stuff. But look, that was like I said. That was just a quick snapshot of how Fan love yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every one of them loved it, yeah, but it was, yeah, every one of them loved it. But it was just like a bit of like, oh shit, and I think one of the things at one of the stands we went to, he was kind of blown away because there was a self-test, a self-HIV test, that they were handing out pamphlets and that and they basically gave him some stats around the people that were using these tests and they said that I think about 80% of them were actually married men that slept with men. And he said so gay? And they said no, no, no, they don't identify as gay, they just sleep with men. And he said but that makes them gay, right? And it was like no, they're just men that sleep with men.
Speaker 2:That's how they identify, right? He said like no, they're just men that sleep with men.
Speaker 1:That's how they identify right, he said, and a lot of them are using the HIV self-test because they don't want to go to a doctor. They definitely don't want to go to a family doctor or anything like that. So he was kind of blown away by that stat. And a lot of them come from out West or, like you know, the South West, which is sort of and and I said, jim, we'll have a think about the demographic that lives in the southwest and out west. Um dick, and he went, yeah, I said, look, a lot of them are very much outwardly homophobic. I said, but when we, when me and dave, have gone to church, yeah, I said we see a lot of people join us, Join us at different stages and different things.
Speaker 1:I said a lot of them are from those demographics.
Speaker 2:So, yeah. There's no judgment on anybody. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:You do what you want to do and please don't stop doing me. But yeah, I love a straight man, as Mitch is the next guy.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it can be quite a turn on, can't as well? Fuck, yeah, especially a hot hops husband, yeah, but yeah. So apart from that, I mean the demographics I found actually at the actual event were a complete mixture you had the lgbt community supporting everything. Yeah, yeah, but there's a lot of straight families there with their children and everything else.
Speaker 1:That which was great because that gives for a way more accepting future.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a fun day.
Speaker 1:Because if people are thinking that this is life, this is everyday life and I don't want to use the word normal because that's a stupid word but if this is everyday life and how it should be lived, where everyone actually just gets along and talks and has great fun together, well then fuck yeah, I'm for it. Right? So everyone, come to our events.
Speaker 2:They also had a lot of entertainment going on, didn't? They the entertainment was great. So the main stage. We didn't stay later on because it goes on all night, doesn't it? It goes on way later. So they got different areas with music, DJs, DJs set up.
Speaker 1:They had people on stage doing reenactments of musicals and stuff. So there is a show that's playing in Sydney at the moment, titanic, which is a Celine Dion-esque style musical, which is a bit of a parody. It's a parody, but it's apparently sensational and we've got to get tickets before it closes. If we get time, no, we're going to make it time. I don't give a fuck, we're making time. All right. It's like $75 a ticket. They're cheap as shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is your dialogue of time and your scheduling.
Speaker 1:I know we have lots on. We're going to see a Dolly Parton show soon. I've Coming up very soon. Very exciting. In the past few weeks we've gone and seen Kylie. That was awesome, wasn't it? Oh, kylie was amazing, but we'll delve into that later, later another one, yeah, because otherwise this is going to be a seven-hour podcast. But yeah, and look, it was just like they had food, they had drinks, they had everything there.
Speaker 1:It was organized spectacularly right. It was great. The food I thought was actually quite reasonably priced. For again, we're at a market right, so you pay market prices. Nobody actually complained about it, and the food that I had was fucking sensational.
Speaker 2:It was slightly different to what we normally have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was fresh and it was clean and it was absolutely delicious.
Speaker 2:They even had water stands there, didn't they? They had big water bowls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, water everywhere they had seating everyone around. Everywhere they were sponsored by a big supermarket and this supermarket was handing out icy poles. It wasn't my favourite supermarket, but anyway it was the other shit one, coles, but anyway, all right.
Speaker 2:Only shit in your mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct, but it was them. But they did hand out free icy poles, so that was actually.
Speaker 2:That was a good and it was a warm day, wasn't it? It was a very warm day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of hot guys there as well a lot of very good looking men, um probably some very beautiful women as well, wasn't as many speedo clad men?
Speaker 2:that was years previously, yeah, but yeah, it's still fun though wasn't it I mean yeah, um. And finally, the funniest thing I saw there was that pissing wall.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that was so cool. It was very, very weird. Look, it was just like a portable urinal right Urinal, Urinal.
Speaker 2:We're never going to have this debate.
Speaker 1:Because, I'm right, we discussed that last night, I'm always right, but yeah, this portable urinal. Right, I'm right, we discussed that last night, I'm always right, but yeah, this portable urinal right. I'm not going to correct you, god. It was just like four big plastic walls. Were they plastic? Were they Three plastic? Yeah, I thought it was wood.
Speaker 2:No, no plastic. Yeah, do you know?
Speaker 1:you get like a sheep enclosure where they put you in there, yeah, and they had the fence around the outside of it.
Speaker 2:You could see through. You could see through the fence.
Speaker 1:Some sit in there and go like I might proposition myself up there a little bit later, just at the top of the hill, and look down at all the guys taking leeks and check out all their cocks and then go yeah, you're that one, I want the big one.
Speaker 2:I want that one Daddy, but it was a clever.
Speaker 1:Men lining up at Portaloos does not make sense to me. These urinals should be standard at any outdoor event.
Speaker 2:You're screened off, so you're not offending anybody.
Speaker 1:You're screened off, so you're not actually.
Speaker 2:You can see into it via the entrance, can't you?
Speaker 1:You can see the back of people.
Speaker 2:You can't see their dicks. If you're close enough to the entrance then you'll see everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they did have it screened for privacy.
Speaker 2:But again, if you were that shy, you'd wait and go to a cubicle and do you know what? Most people, most guys, would just get out of the car and they'd go piss against a tree. They don't give a flying fuck.
Speaker 1:They're that desperate they'd do it a great solution to people pissing all over the ground at the park. Yep, so that's how it may have actually been brought about, but it was fucking awesome I loved it.
Speaker 1:I just wish that I got to go when it was busier, because when I went, it was just me and one other person um, that was dick but he went one side and so I went to another side. Right, you know, I don't need to see my friends dicks um, I like my own and some of my friends I'd like to see, but me and dick have been friends for so long. It's not funny. I can't see that now. Um, but yeah, fair day, wrap up, yeah, great day. So much information. Check out those websites, which is positivelifeorgau, and you've obviously got the domestic violence one domestic violence, one which I've now put that card somewhere.
Speaker 1:So, dave, you're going to have to. It's dvafoundationorg, I think. Yeah, I'm a bit on this one.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I gave it to you. Anyway, I'll put it somewhere.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I've mentioned it a few times throughout, I think, yeah, dvafoundationorg, you're right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, you've got like that You've got lots of different information, lots of different education. So we hope you've enjoyed today's podcast.
Speaker 2:We didn't do anything else.
Speaker 1:No, oh yeah, mardi Gras, we didn't even fucking do any Mardi Gras?
Speaker 2:We didn't go, we were too busy. Yeah, yeah, we won't get into that. We'll talk about that later, yeah, but yeah, we hope you've enjoyed today podcast and we'll be back with you soon.
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