Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Fully Grown Homos Podcast
Busting Myths and Breaking Stereotypes: The Gay Men Reality Check
What if everything you thought you knew about gay men was just the tip of the iceberg? Join us as we unravel the stereotypes that have long shadowed the gay community, challenging the notion that being gay equates to being effeminate. With humor and a touch of sass, we throw "gaydar" into the mix, dissecting its famed yet flawed reputation, while debunking the overused trope that associates effeminacy strictly with being gay.
Picture this: gay men as trendsetters in fashion and grooming. True for some, yet far from a universal truth. We share side-splitting anecdotes about mainstream fashion trends that hint at the subtle influence of gay culture and celebrate self-care rituals that transcend stereotypes. But wait, there's more! Prepare for a candid discussion on sexual roles, fitness enthusiasm, and the age-defying body consciousness that defies the expectations often held for gay men.
Myths about music preferences, grooming habits, and health concerns also get a reality check. Not all gay men worship pop icons, nor do they all sport Speedos—even though trends can have a life of their own. With a firm yet gentle swipe, we dismantle the harmful stereotype linking all gay men to HIV, celebrating progress and urging open-mindedness. Engage with us on social media to share your thoughts and help shape future episodes, as we celebrate the true diversity within the gay community.
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Speaker 1:Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt, and this week we're going to chat about what Dave?
Speaker 2:This week? Matt, we're chatting about gay men stereotypes versus reality and there's plenty of those to go around.
Speaker 1:Now let me just precursor this with gay men are often this is what the google search has come up with. The first thing it's come up with was gay men. Gay men are often equated interchangeably with heterosexual women by heterocentric mainstream and are frequently stereotyped as being effeminate. What are your thoughts, Dave?
Speaker 2:Well, as a gay man, I can probably conclude with that. Can conclude I can conclude that, yes, the stereotype of a gay man is definitely a very effeminate person, but as we know what's the reality, then the reality is Matt. They are fucking just normal people like you and I Shh don't end it that quickly.
Speaker 1:Fuck, I know the segment will be over before it's begun. Yeah, so gay men Stereotypes? Yeah, there are definitely some stereotypes that fit us to a T, but there are some that fit perfectly, some that not so much.
Speaker 2:Well, again, it's a broad spectrum, I think, Matt. Again, you know, looking at society as a whole, you know we as gay men can definitely pick out other gay men. Oh, not always, no, but I mean I've got a very good gay dial, I have, but it doesn't mean that all the gay men that I pick?
Speaker 1:no, but I mean, I've got a very good gay dar I have, but it doesn't mean that all the gay men that I pick out are effeminate? No, no, no, no exactly. So what I'm saying is and there's something that you definitely can't pick, like the one that was trying to cruise me last night at panthers yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:But you know, for me I don't tend to find that effeminate men are necessarily gay, because there are effeminate straight men out there as well, correct? So for me, I don't go off on my gay dart, initially with effeminate men. Obviously I question it sometimes because you know.
Speaker 1:only certainty that I can 100% pick somebody who's gay is when they've got the cock in your mouth. Bingo bongo, that's it. Or when I've got my mouth on their cock and then some of them claim not to be gay. Um, yeah, you've got some good friends like that, don't you?
Speaker 2:they're called married men yeah absolutely so.
Speaker 1:So some of the gay stereotypes and we've got lists from different different sites, different things like that. If you can hear a ball dropping, it's the dogs. Yeah, chanel's obsessed with that balls this morning. Um, because I took a toy off her that she was unstuffing, and daddy does the stuffing and chanel does the unstuffing. You know that's different, um, but yeah, um, so, yeah, um. So stereotypes what are some of the ones that you've got listed there, dave, again following?
Speaker 2:through from the effeminate side, you've got stylish and trendsetters, I believe well well, I believe that some of that is 100 correct.
Speaker 1:Well, some let's go with 90 correct, because there are definitely a lot of trends that gay men have actually started, um, like being super fit and stuff like that. Yeah, now again, this is not all gay men, because I've seen myself in the mirror and I know I'm not super fit. I know I'm not unfit, unfit, but I'm not super average man, I'm just your average bloke. Yeah, ozzy, bloke that board like me. Yeah, dad bod, definitely, even though I don't have any kids.
Speaker 1:Well, I might have in a drain or up a bum you might have yeah, but gay men are stylish, yeah, I would say that we do try and make sure, I think they're the ones that actually set the trend for the future year. What's going to happen in the fashion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially fashion and stuff like that. I mean the gay men I tend to find are very much more forward focused when it comes to setting fashion trends, and it takes a while for the heterosexual men to catch on. I think once that becomes ingrained into society, then they jump ship and it's like oh, look what I've got.
Speaker 1:This is me. Even when we're talking style, I sort of basically attribute style to how to put together an outfit, how to sort of put together a look, a look, girlfriend.
Speaker 2:And again that blends into another one I've got here which is like hairstyles and the makeup side of things. Now I mean when I say makeup I don't mean like full-on drag makeup or, you know, people going out and putting like lipstick and stuff on their face and stuff like that. I mean men are very much more or gay men tend to be much more, um, conscious of moisturizing and adding like light tones to their body blemishes, you know, just making the skin look a bit more perfect, making sure we're flawless yeah, absolutely making sure that we always look somewhat good, the best manicured and everything else.
Speaker 2:You know, that's not everyone, not every day the straight world does that as well. But what I'm saying is I think that gay men are more.
Speaker 1:You know more susceptible to doing it um, yeah, definitely. I know, I stereotyped you know, I have my moisturizer that sits there and I moisturize every single day. I wash my face every single day. I try and keep you leave your cock every day as well. I definitely do that, and make sure you moisturize your dick um yep, and your balls um every single day. I wash my face every single day and you leave your cock every day as well, don't you? That's important. Make sure you moisturise your dick and your balls and your arsehole.
Speaker 2:That's a bit too much, why not, as long as you're not anal bleaching? That's a trend setting.
Speaker 1:That was a trend and I'm guessing it started from the gay community. I have to Google that one. But I'm not going to Google anal bleaching. I don't want that on my phone.
Speaker 2:It's probably come from the porn industry that has Possibly actually Possibly so gay men are stylish.
Speaker 1:Let's take that reality. Does that go into the reality bucket or the stereotype bucket? I think it goes into the reality bucket quite honestly, because, again, look, look, I don't know, I I do know some gay men that are slobs and that have no, but that's standard for everything.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, even in the heterosexual world you've got slobs and you've got fit people as well, you know. I mean so again that I wouldn't say that that is yeah no, I'd say.
Speaker 1:I'd say, if we're putting it on a scale, it would it'd be. The reality would be that gay men are stylish would definitely weigh heavier.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, and that's stereotypical, but it's also reality. Definitely Correct.
Speaker 1:Correct. So yeah, so gay men are feminine, All gay men are feminine. Well, we know that's far from the truth.
Speaker 2:I mean there's a small proportion that are. There are, but I would say from my perspective and from what I have seen over the time I've been in the gay community, that is far from that. I mean, most of the men that I know and most of the people that I've actually seen and interacted with have been masculine just normal, yeah normal masculine men that I would find normal. Well, normal, it is normal, I mean the other day we day.
Speaker 2:we're not different. I mean there's no different to straight as well as gay. No, I mean, we're just represented in exactly the same way, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think, like again, I think that that one is definitely a stereotype, rather than, if we're putting them on the scale, I think, um, it fits far over to the sort of to the right of the stereotype yeah um.
Speaker 2:If, if, if yeah um because these boundaries will start breaking down over time. I mean, the more we push into society that being gay or being lesbian or being part of the lgbtq plus community, I mean we are just normal people. We are normal in every single way.
Speaker 1:There's nothing different about nothing different nothing different um apart from what we do in the bedroom but again I mean, and that's, it's a mindset, stereotypical thing, that's becoming more mainstream as well. What's that? Sorry anal um, yeah, well, it is, you know, you're right, okay, so I guess the stereotype versus a reality there in the bedroom yeah, guys only got a guy's only got a butthole to fuck.
Speaker 2:Really no, but they, they, they.
Speaker 1:Everyone assumes and again, this is a stereotype versus a reality everyone assumes that all gay men take a dick right, and that is not the case, as we definitely know. Yep, um, because they've got tops, you got bottoms and you sides. And sides are the ones that basically don't have any in, or no, no, no, no, they don't do any in and out stuff at all, either give or take. They're just basically like mutual masturbation or basically some oral and stuff like that as well, but tops, bottoms and sides.
Speaker 1:So the stereotype you missed our verse yeah, well, well, they're the ones that do everything exactly.
Speaker 2:They're the best of the bunch. Yeah, um, um, but the stereotype versus the reality that all men's, all gay men, are fucking and again, straight men would actually actually think that, oh, you're all fucking ass takers and yeah, correct, correct and that's definitely not the case there.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that feels like a stereotype, not reality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, what about gym junkies? Matt gym junkies. So again.
Speaker 1:I guess I personally do love the gym right for multitude of reasons, as we've discussed previously. Number one to get fit, stay healthy, healthy body, healthy mind, all that kind of stuff. But I also like the eye candy at the gym very much. That's where your mind turns to be dirty. Yeah, that's where that eye candy turns into the candy shop and all that kind of stuff and I want to lick their lollipops. But yeah, so the gym again. I think being fit is not exclusive to gay men.
Speaker 1:No, but I think they set the trend, didn't they initially? A lot of gay men wanted to look better. Well the thing is that we know that a healthy body is a healthy mind, is a sexy body, is a well-performed body Like endurance athletes haven't just gone to the gym to get that body. They're actually working on their endurance, on this, on their sport and their craft and stuff like that and, as a result, they've actually got that amazing body and that's why it's an attractive.
Speaker 2:Well, again, it's another form of trendsetting. The gay community has have integrated the trendsetting, but it's now normal. I mean, reality states that straight men and gay men both work out and they both are body conscious. Yeah, but as a byproduct of society's sort of like, look on gay men as being like you know, the people that you know get their clothes off and have a body issue. You know have body positivity about themselves. Yeah, um, has obviously definitely worked in society's favor.
Speaker 1:Well, because being a fatty in the gay world? Well, any world, well, yeah, no, but especially Okay. So we're not 25 anymore, all right. So let's put this into an age bracket thing. For 53, 54-year-old men, right, or anything above 30, we're pretty much dead anyway in the gay world. But if we're 50-year-old men, as we are, unfortunately but if we're 50 year old men as we are, unfortunately or fortunately, one of those, we If I compare myself to a lot of my straight mates that are the same vintage, same age, bracket stuff like that Now, not all of them, but quite a few of them are quite a bit chunkier than me, not even interested in going to the gym, right, not even close to interested in actually sort of being fit and healthy and stuff like that as well. So they're not even dad bods, no not even dad bods.
Speaker 1:They're sort of way beyond that and stuff like that as well. So they're not even dad bods no, not even dad bods, they're sort of way beyond that and stuff like that. Their exercise is mowing the lawns once a fortnight, doing the edges and maybe walking to and from the bar, doing the dishes To and from the bar or the barbecue and stuff like that. So like, whereas when I talk to most gay men our age not that I talk to lots of them, but when I talk to them they have got some kind of health regime. Like, if you look at Grindr profiles I'll say stay fit, blah, blah, blah. This is what they're looking for, right? So they're looking for somebody that's fit, healthy, has an active lifestyle, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:So you're talking it's age-related. Yeah, yeah, age has an active lifestyle, all that kind of. So you're talking it's age related, yeah, yeah, age. And that reminds me of that thing we saw the other day. Remember that? Um, that thing that came up on a grinder post it wasn't we, it was just like posted on facebook or one of the memes, I don't know and it showed that conversation between two people and he said oh hey, daddy, and he goes along the lines of like what age are you? And he says you're too old for me. He said you're too old, he goes. Well, how old is too old he goes?
Speaker 2:I'm 27, exactly yeah, exactly so 27 is too old for most gay men these days 100.
Speaker 1:It is 100. That's why we're antiques now which means we're collectible, but yeah, um. So gay men, fm, um, not all gay are femme and we know that because we're two men.
Speaker 2:So in terms of gym junkies, then we are now more reality-based, more reality.
Speaker 1:I'd say that it definitely leans on the reality side of the spectrum, Definitely definitely.
Speaker 2:That moves on to eating regimes as well, because obviously you mentioned that very broadly, then, obviously, do you think that the gay men suppress themselves more, do you think?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, because especially okay and it's very seasonal as well. I'm just gonna blow my nose, sorry, okay um sorry, it's done okay.
Speaker 1:So it's very seasonal as well. Being um fitter, if we know and again, I'm not your Mardi Gras type party Mardi Gras party type guy anymore, those days are long behind me, but as a younger gay man and you're coming up to party season and stuff like that they definitely very carefully monitor every calorie, every single thing that goes into their body. And again, none of this is exclusive to the gay world, but we're just saying with the gays we have a hype, we focus on it a little bit more.
Speaker 1:So I'd say the eating better, eating healthier, watching what we put into our bodies, and stuff like that. Um, I'm talking from food wise. Um, I'd say that that's probably, um, definitely closer to a reality than a stereotype yeah stereotype deeply rooted in reality.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, yep, definitely, definitely. So. I've got one here, dave. Yep, it says gay men speak differently than straight men, I don't know, with a more effeminate voice or with a lisp, a lisp or something like that. So funny story. I had one of my work colleagues. I did a um, a conference call the other day for work and one of my work colleagues texted me and they said you sound gayer than normal. And my reply was I had lots of dick over the weekend. Um, so it's made me lisp, um, but I've, I don't believe that we sound any different.
Speaker 2:Well, I think gay men get excited a little quicker. Oh yeah, so you know, the actual tone in their voice or the mannerisms, or the high pitchness comes up a little bit more, if that makes any excitableness, yeah 100.
Speaker 1:So if you, if you look at, and I guess, if you look at the, if we're looking at characterizations on tv and stuff like that, right, so a lot of the gay characters that are represented on tv um do have that higher pitch, higher tone. If you look at will and grace, for example, which I I did.
Speaker 2:You say you've never no, I've never watched it.
Speaker 1:No, fucking does never watched it um, but jack from will and grace, who's definitely the, he's your stereotypical queen, and he goes and, and the more excited he gets, the more higher his pitch goes up and it goes all the way up, um, and it's, it's quite funny sort of thing, yeah, but, um, do gay men speak differently? I don't believe so. So I think that one is more stereotyped than a reality. Yeah, um, because I can have conversations with multiple gay men and no one in the room will actually know that we're all gay, because we're not talking and swishing and doing stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, what about clubbing and going out socializing? Do you think gay men are more stereotyped to go out and have parties and do drugs and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:those are, you know again, this is an age thing, but not no, I just think. I just think that, like from, everyone likes to go out and have fun, yeah Right, and everyone likes to go out and have a really good time and stuff like that. I know that.
Speaker 2:But what I'm saying is I mean in terms of clubbing and stuff like that do you think that the stereotypes these days people associate gay men as going out to clubs and straight men going out to bars or rsls or pubs and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:you know, I mean I think it depends on what circle you're in. So as a young gay man, I think, I think we definitely have some of the best clubs, best music, best djs, all that kind of stuff. Some of the best lighting is put on, um, and as a result of that, again, the heterosexual community have gone, because I know that when I was younger and going out clubbing and stuff like that, yep, a lot of my heterosexual friends I'd take them along to places like arc and stuff like that and they'd go. This is fucking amazing. We should have stuff like this for us.
Speaker 2:But remember you were saying talking about arc as well. You said that in the past when you were younger. You know your straight female friends would always get picked up in a gay bar. Well, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:So Cleo from Cleopatra, and Anthony, a good friend of ours, a couple of friends of ours we'd always go out and literally every single time we went out she would pick up and I'm sitting there going.
Speaker 1:you know, this is a gay bar, right, and I wouldn't ever fucking pick up. I'm sitting there going what the hell. So yeah, it was quite funny, but yeah, that was slightly off topic. But a lot of gay clubs have definitely set the scene for what straight clubs have been built and how they've been sort of, I guess, modelled and things like that.
Speaker 2:So do you think that over the Stereotype clubbing would have been definitely a gay thing? I think back in the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, back in the day.
Speaker 2:So we can now move to reality. That, you know, is basically more so that it's mainstream for everybody these days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very mainstream now, so that myth is sort of like debunked really. So it's more reality, More reality, yeah, Okay what about bearded men Matt? Well bearded men? Well, there's lots of those Bearded men. Matt Well bearded men well there's lots of those.
Speaker 2:Lumberjacks have been around for a round, but do you think that the gay world was a leading fashion statement?
Speaker 1:I think stylish beards definitely were and I say were because, again, the rest of the world's gotten on board. But I think if we're talking trend setting to have your beard manicured and stylish done all that kind of stuff was definitely a gay thing.
Speaker 1:But then again, if I look at all the barber shops that are around and the nationality of the barbers that are in them middle eastern- so it's probably a middle eastern thing that we've actually gone oh, that's quite hot, yeah, and we've adopted it and then sort of made it pop culture again.
Speaker 2:I think it's more, more mainstream now, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, there's a lot of men out there, and I'm grateful for that, because I think men look fucking so much sexier with a beard you showed me an article, you sent me an article a while ago, whereas men without beards then then had beards and I'd say 90 percent of them to 95 looks so much better with a beard, um so, boys, I think it changes your jawline, because we saw that one guy had no jaw, no, jaw, no. So he had a beard.
Speaker 2:It gave his face so much more definition, didn't it?
Speaker 1:it squared it off and everything else you're not happy with how you look. Boys, go and grow a beard. Yeah, doesn't have to be long, no, as long as not good.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, not too long, but yeah, but um but uh, but yeah, but that also goes on to the, the hair styling as well, doesn't it really? Yeah, yeah a gay man. You know they tend to dye their hair well, stereotype. You know. You dye your hair peroxide blonde, and you know. And then you have all these, like you know, dreadlocks and all this lot.
Speaker 1:Oh, gay men don't do dreadlocks. They're dirty and filthy. That's disgusting. I don't think I've ever, ever met a gay man with dreadlocks and I don't want to. If you're out there, no offence, but I like clean hair. I don't know. That sounds really funny because I'm completely fucking bald. But they just look at me and say what the fuck Clean hair. I've seen you in a wig.
Speaker 2:I've seen you in a wig.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, they're for fun. Um, but, um, yeah, yeah, definitely we. That's not really a stereotype. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. So gay men all love. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna say it's got one artist written down here, but I'm actually gonna open it up to just say pop music. Um, now, I think everyone loves pop music, otherwise it wouldn't be called pop music. Now let me go with the artist, kylie um so we're more drawn to female pop icons.
Speaker 2:Pop icons, yeah. So beyonce, taylor, swift, all the feminine type of likeas I'm going to debunk that, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Society will say gay men follow those.
Speaker 1:They all follow them no.
Speaker 2:Because we know that people follow hardcore heavy metal and everything. Don't we in the reality Correct? The reality is that we all like different types of music, so that's not really a stereotype at all, is it?
Speaker 1:Well, no, it definitely is a stereotype that we all like Kylie and Madonna and Cher. Yeah, but some of us do.
Speaker 2:But we kind of do yeah, we do Right.
Speaker 1:It kind of is a reality at the same time, if you look at the playlist that we created recently on our Spotify Fully Grown Homos podcast, Spotify list called Fully Grown. Homos Top Picks. You'll find a lot of Kylie. You'll find a lot of Madonna. You'll find quite a bit of Cher All female artists. Basically, you'll find Chaperone, you'll find Wham, you'll find lots Elton John.
Speaker 2:You'll find Donna Summer, all the gay people.
Speaker 1:You'll find all the gay stuff in there, but then it was a gay thing we did remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, correct, it was our top gay songs.
Speaker 1:But I'm just trying to think of artists that I don't look nah.
Speaker 2:But again, I mean, I like all music, but again, look at, look at the, the charts. Matt majority of like people in the charts fall into that gay spectrum, don't they? Yeah, you got the choice of fans and people like that, you know I mean that are actually out there making amazing music, yeah, and yet it becomes part of the actual broader spectrum of normality. I suppose you know I mean more people listen to it and they get involved with the club music. And this is where all these club djs picking up on such great song tracks and then reinventing them even more, you know, and before you know it, everybody's dancing in the clubs, correct, correct? So I've got another one here Matt Speedos, yes, all gay men wear speedos.
Speaker 1:That's stereotypical and it's true, it should be true. They don't. Unfortunately, the reality is they don't.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, some of them wear bloody shorts. Well, it's changed again. I mean, I think back in the 80s it would have definitely been speedos for everybody, because it was a trendset by the gay people. You know, yeah, yeah, and then it obviously took off and people in the, but now all the footy players wear speedos.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it, I embrace them. God, I do love it a lot. Everyone knows that I love a speedo. I love a grey track pants. They're my two go-tos. If I have. Well, and apart from naked as well, which I'm free balling, free balling in in grey track pants is the way to go. Boys, do it, do it for the community, do it for everyone. Yep, but yeah, speedos, yeah. Again, it's not really a gay thing, so much anymore. But we did set the trend, definitely. And if you look at the type, the amount, if you go into Daily Mail, our boys at Daily Mail check their store but they've got a whole wall um, full of, um, full of bloody speedos that you can all enjoy. So reality versus a stereotype here, dave, here's a heavy one yep, all gay men are hiv positive that does annoy me.
Speaker 2:It does, it gets me down every time I hear that because, as we know, matt, you know, it's just a label that was pushed onto the gay community by the straight community to basically make us look that we were the target of like or we were the bad people in society and, as we know, you know that's not the case that is not the case.
Speaker 2:That is definitely a stereotype and the percentage of gay men that have hiv, especially in today's society, is so much less now. You know what I mean. And we've got medications, I say, and preventative techniques that are there to, you know, help us out, and we're doing our best part to eradicate that Yep. And you know it's just a label again that society's put on us, which I think is so wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know what? So what? Because, again, there's so much negative connotations towards having HIV and it's just something you've caught.
Speaker 2:It's a bug, Exactly I mean, I think more people have died from COVID in the last four years than they have of HIV in the last few decades. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean Correct. So yeah, so it just goes to show you few decades. You know, I mean correct.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so this goes to show you that you know again you put a, we put a disease and label it and target a community, then that becomes synonymous as in like a stereotype again and we've proven that complete wrong, you know, I mean yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's definitely a stereotype yeah, there now, gay men can't play sports. Well, well, I think, tom daly, um hello, yes, you can. Um, there's whole footballs, there's whole football leagues, there's whole netball leagues dedicated to gay men's sports gymnasts, I mean gymnasts.
Speaker 2:Most of them are gay. Well, yeah, I would say they would, in my perspective, be gay. Yeah, but you think every man's gay?
Speaker 1:Well, I do, and they are, and they are until proven straight, I've told you that so many times. Of course they are.
Speaker 2:And that's my stereotype.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep, and we're okay with that. But so gay men can't play sport? That's a stereotype. Definitely, of course we can play sport, but just do me a favour and don't throw a ball at me, because I won't catch it, unless it's between your mouth. Unless it's between my mouth, then throw two at me at once. But yeah, so there are some guys that are better at sport than others.
Speaker 2:But again, I mean that's down to reality, correct, correct.
Speaker 1:You can't label a sport as person, exactly. No, some straight men can't play any sports whatsoever. Nope, yeah. What else have you got?
Speaker 2:in your list. I don't think I've got anything really apart from the hairstyles and makeup again, but I mean that again, we've already covered that topic.
Speaker 1:Okay, how about this one then? Go on then. The gay men are only attracted to straight men. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2:I think I'm definitely attracted to some straight.
Speaker 1:I think I'm attracted to all men yes, correct, I'm not bloody, I'm not, I'm not picky I'm not picky.
Speaker 2:I mean there can be some amazingly good looking straight men.
Speaker 1:There can be amazingly good gay men and vice versa as well. There could be some fucking horrible looking gay men, yeah there was a man at the urinal there last night that I was definitely attracted to. I'll tell you this fucking giant slug in his pants. I was like holy shit. But were you attracted to him? Or his slug? Yes, I was. Or just the reflection he was hot as well. No, he was hot as well.
Speaker 1:He was like six foot something and he was fucking muscled and he was what about the other one that turned around and said to you and then there was another one that wasn't that great at all, and um, and he told me, and he's sitting there at the urinal and I was just taking a leak and and I might have stood there a couple of extra seconds, um, whatever, um and um, and he's sitting there shaking, he's shaking his. I kind of looked over and he's looking over and he went nice cock and I went yeah just gave him a nod and sort of put one away and walked out.
Speaker 2:So do you think that's a stereotype again? Or all gay men? Look at the men's penises in the that's a reality.
Speaker 1:Urinals that's a reality urinals, urinals, whatever they call it. But yeah, that's definitely a reality. That one definitely um.
Speaker 2:Every everybody looks I think everybody and those that say they don't look a lie in iraq.
Speaker 1:They're not telling the truth because we all and again, if we weren't prone to looking and this is everyone if all men weren't looking at other men's digs, why would we be worried about size Exactly which we'll cover off in a podcast and again.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you're watching straight porn, are straight men actually watching another man penetrate a woman? They've got to look at another man's cock. They have to. There's no way that you haven't seen another man's. Why would?
Speaker 1:television shows like dating naked be so popular. Yep, right, um. And dating naked uk. You can give some props to that. There's a nice dick on that, definitely. Yep, um, but yeah, but these shows wouldn't be so popular but like I I said, everybody has seen another man's penis.
Speaker 2:And when you say looking at them in your eye, and I don't mean in the creepy way, because we don't do that either- I mean unless it's the next year and they've got their hand on your junk and you've got yours on theirs, then it's slightly different, Obviously you've got to look into their eyes, then I'm not gay.
Speaker 1:I'm not gay I Looking into your eyes and helping you with this. But yeah, I think, reality versus stereotype, I think we've pretty much covered off quite a bit of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure there'll be some other things I'm sure there'll be tons of others in there as well.
Speaker 1:But these are sort of like the main ones that we've covered. These are just some of the ones that we came up with off the top of our head, and I think we've covered off the fact that most of the stereotypes are actually just that, um, even though there are definitely some that are rooted in reality, um, but I think we've covered off for the most part that most of them are just stereotypes and that, to sum it up, that we're just men. Yep, gay men are just men, um, like every other man on the planet. So, back the fuck up, leave us alone and enjoy life and enjoy everything it has to offer maybe go out there and experience a little bit yourself?
Speaker 1:yeah, why not. So if you want to send us a topic for us to discuss, how do they do that, dave?
Speaker 2:you can contact us on our social media or the fully grown homos podcast at gmailcom yeah, or any of our socials at fully grown homos podcast.
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