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Heartthrob Heaven: Ranking the Hottest Male Celebrities
Ever wondered which male celebrity tops our crush list? Prepare yourself for some major nostalgia and plenty of swooning as we, Dave and Matt, open up about our earliest and current celebrity crushes. From Matt's childhood idol, Dean Cain of "Lois and Clark," to Dave's timeless infatuation with Jude Law during his "The Talented Mr. Ripley" era, we're taking you on a journey through our hearts and memories. Tune in to hear about Matt's real-life encounter with the charismatic Ricky Martin and our shared admiration for the dreamy duo, Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling.
Imagine Zac Efron as the leading man in a movie with a significant gay following—sounds dreamy, right? We dive into this fantasy and discuss the personal journeys of celebrities like Wentworth Miller, who bravely navigated their sexuality in the limelight. Our conversation also highlights the struggles and triumphs of Australian heartthrobs Luke Jacobs, Daniel McPherson, and Hugh Sheridan. We applaud these stars for their resilience and openness, and we can't help but gush over the allure of the Hemsworth brothers and Channing Tatum's undeniable charm.
Finally, we rank our top ten hottest male celebrities, with Henry Cavill reigning supreme. The Ryans—Reynolds and Gosling—along with Hugh Jackman, share our runner-up spot. The Hemsworth brothers, Russell Tovey, and the Evans brothers make strong showings, while Justin Timberlake secures a spot, thanks to some playful rumors. Rounding out our list are Wentworth Miller, Daniel Craig, and the ever-enchanting Ricky Martin. Join us in this fun-filled episode, and don't forget to share your own celebrity crushes and suggest future top ten topics. Like, comment, and subscribe to keep the conversation going, and reach out to us on social media or via email!
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Hey Dave, yes, matt, are you ready for a quickie? I'm ready for a quick rumble, if that's what you want. I'm talking about a quick chat. Oh, okay, let's go for it. Then let's do it.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt. And what are we going to chat about today? Dave?
Speaker 1:Today, Matt, we're talking about male crushes and fantasies.
Speaker 2:We're going to do a series called Top 10s where we go through a whole heap of top 10 topics of different things we'd like to discuss, but today's one we're going to talk about male crushes, male celebrities, from our perspective.
Speaker 1:So we'll start off with like a list of names that we have in front of us we'll discuss them between each other and then we'll come up with a top 10 list that we compile, that we agree on, if that makes sense. Well, we'll try and narrow it down to top. Yeah, there's going to be someone there that I like and you don't, and some of you like and I don't so 100.
Speaker 1:So I think, I think look and we're talking like growing up as well. Here, you know, I mean not just the current, current people.
Speaker 2:First, crushes, stuff like that. Crushes for the future um, not crushes for the future, because then we'd be naming out potentially younger people and we don't do that just yet. Um, so yeah, so top 10 crushes that I've had, let me just go through. Let's do we'll do a name, I'll do a name, you do a name, I'll do a name, you do a name, we'll do it that way, all right this doesn't have to be in any order as we found them as we found them interesting so one of my first crushes um and was was dean kane.
Speaker 2:I love dean kain so much and if you've listened to previous episodes, you've definitely heard me talk about him before. So Dean Cain was that handsome guy that played in Lois and Clark. He played Superman, he played the Clark Kent.
Speaker 1:Superman.
Speaker 2:No, no, in Lois and Clark, it was called that series. But he was also in quite a few gay movies back in the time, like Heartbreak, uh, rich, no, it was okay. Oh, my god, I can't remember the name of the movie. Anyway, it was great. Look him up, he's hot as fuck. He is handsome as hell, um, and he's actually matured not too bad as well like he's older now, obviously, as we all are, unfortunately um, but he's actually matured to quite a handsome man. But he's a little bit of a lunatic on Twitter, okay, and just says all these really strange things.
Speaker 2:He's entitled to that. Yeah, we're all a bit odd. Yeah but you know what doesn't stop making him feel but yeah, but he's definitely still hot enough to bed to have some fun with but yeah so hit me with one of yours, dave.
Speaker 1:I think one of my earliest ones that I sort of like really had a crush on might be someone like Jude Law when he was younger, and the talented Mr Ripley and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean yeah and yeah. So he's always been a handsome man, I think you know, and he's a good actor as well. Yeah, definitely it's like Colin O'Farrell as well. I mean all these people like the Irish descendants and stuff like that In their younger years were just super hot. I'm talking like the 90s and 2000s. You know those sort of periods where I was more sort of like able to Young and virile. Yeah, I mean obviously there would have been current at the moment, you know.
Speaker 2:Correct, correct, correct. So look, I mean I can't count my PE teacher because he's not famous and people won't know what he looks like.
Speaker 1:Well, give you an image.
Speaker 2:He's got red hair and a big bulge and used to wear little shorts. We used to call him Lefty, so he's famous in my brain, but yes. So next one for me is who's actually gay so he's totally achievable is pop star Ricky Martin? Like, he's sexy, he's kind, he's a loving father, latin American, he's Latin American, he's got the moves. He's got all the moves.
Speaker 1:He's got the voice. He's got a lot of the money. He's got the body. He's got the voice yeah, but he's Latin American. He's got the moves, he's got all the moves. He's got the voice. He's got a lot of the money. He's got the body. He's got the voice yeah, but he's a package.
Speaker 2:He's a sweet guy. I actually met him at the recording of one of the voices a long time ago and he gave me I got up and sang in one of the intervals and stuff like that and he told me a great job and actually gave me a signed copy of his book, which was really quite cool and awesome. I still have that book and… His phone number.
Speaker 1:And his….
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, I wonder who he put his number in there for me.
Speaker 1:Maybe? Damn. Well, you missed out on all these opportunities, mate Damn I could be married to Ricky. Martin, you could be the father of his sons. I would not be doing that part.
Speaker 2:We know that um all right, dave, uh well I've got.
Speaker 1:I've got, uh, both ryan's ryan reynolds and ryan gosling. A lot of people get confused and mixed up with them.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, but they're both hot, fucking guys yeah, I'd be in the middle of a ryan sandwich 100 or on either end of the ryan sandwich, whichever I could persuade them to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but at the moment, ryan rey, I could persuade them to do yeah. Um would definitely, but at the moment ryan reynolds is definitely ticking my boxes, especially deadpool, deadpool deadpool, and then that leads on to other people like wolverine, which okay, all right, let's just cut that.
Speaker 2:Let's go to. Let's go, hugh jackman, I love you I love hugh jackman. I do.
Speaker 1:I really do. Really, I wouldn't have known that from you. Yeah, I think Hugh is such a great actor, he's such a great person, he's a good singer, he's an all-rounder.
Speaker 2:He is a quadruple threat.
Speaker 1:He's such a hot guy and he's such a nice person as well.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And to me he ticks all the boxes.
Speaker 2:He does, he does. Look, you know, I'd never, ever, ever, ever get married again. But if Hugh asked, I'd do it, just to spite you. I'd say sure, hugh, no worries, dave, do you want to come and be my page boy? Dave would go, let me in the fucking bedroom, let me in the honeymoon suite. But yeah, and then with Hugh Jackman obviously comes Zac Efron. Obviously, because that's Dave's ultimate fantasy.
Speaker 1:I've mentioned this so many times on podcasts in the past. If there's any two people that I would love to see make out, would be Hugh Jackman and Zac Efron.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe Ryan Reynolds as well. Oh, fuck.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine, oh my God, the threesome? That would be awesome. Oh God, can you imagine Deadpool with Wolverine and Zac Efron as another superhero? That would be even better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'd just come in my pants.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine the scene it would be?
Speaker 2:awesome, it would be hot as hell. They need to get Zac in on one of their movies. He could be the unicorn and let them both ride him. Yeah, we need to pitch this to them, 100%. Yeah, we do, let's go. The gayest movie ever, the gayest Well, the movie with the gayest following ever, that's for sure that would be awesome, that's for sure. Let's go back a little bit Wentworth Miller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a hot guy, Prison break.
Speaker 2:He was always hot.
Speaker 1:And then he came out yeah, which is super hot, it's super hotter, it's just super hotter.
Speaker 2:So again, it's time for all the others to come out too.
Speaker 1:And there will be some. But I mean, at the end of the day, it's a personal journey and we don't advocate for people to be outed. No, and you know, at the end of the day, we're all human beings and you know there's a lot of people out there, as we know, matt, that are, you know, suppressed or just not ready to come out and share the world with themselves. Correct, correct, and that's totally fine.
Speaker 2:Some Aussies that I really like. I'm going to put two in the same bundle because I like them both equally.
Speaker 1:You like two in a bundle, don't you?
Speaker 2:I've been a fan of that.
Speaker 1:Luke Jacobs and Daniel McPherson. Oh yeah, they're great. They are too good.
Speaker 2:Those two would be good together.
Speaker 1:They'd be hot together. We, those two, would be good together.
Speaker 2:They'd be hot together. We could do a segment called Making Out Together and they could be our fantasies and we could just get all our celebrities in we could just have a group session on this one.
Speaker 1:I mean have a complete orgy with them all. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2:Well, that's what's going to happen at the end. I thought we were picking top ten contenders for our orgy.
Speaker 1:Well we are we're going to whittle all these down. But then they're all going to come, your foot's going to end up right in my pocket in a minute. It's just like oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:And that's not all, but yeah, All right. Yeah, those two Aussie blokes, sensational actors.
Speaker 1:We've got to mention Hugh Sheridan then as well, because he is a fucking, very, very he's a hot guy, he's a handsome man.
Speaker 2:He is.
Speaker 1:And again he struggles mentally with his own sexuality, which is not an issue at all. No, I mean, I think a lot of people do.
Speaker 2:But I mean, at the end of the day, you know, he'll get there eventually yeah, look well, he just doesn't want a label no, and I get that, and you shouldn't have to exactly because I guess the label can, unfortunately, in the industry that they're in, yeah, can affect the jobs you get. So, absolutely so, why wear a label? Label?
Speaker 1:But also, you know, it's a personal preference and at the end of the day it's just being him and that's good. Yep, I mean at the end of the day, I still fucking think he's a hot-looking guy and he's a good actor and a good singer, and to me, you know, he's just a nice person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, brian Justin Crum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, another singer Singer. People might look, he's not well well known, famous.
Speaker 2:I look him up. Oh, look, he is.
Speaker 1:And look for his cock pics as well. He's just a handsome bloke, but he's also, you know, an openly gay person and he always has been. Yep Went through a lot of struggles prior to being discovered. Yep.
Speaker 2:And yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it was on Britain's australia no america, no america, sorry, america. So we get there eventually, yeah, um, but no, uh, super, super talented guy, beautiful voice, beautiful personality, um, and, yeah, extremely really hot looking. You know, he's such a masculine looking guy, you know I mean he's, and I've seen a few of his uh, uncensored on, yeah, uncensored dick leak pics yeah, which he's?
Speaker 2:he shared yeah, and they are pretty damn hot and they're good yeah, it's good, he's good he's got a good, he's living his life and I'm fully embracing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah um, you got sam wilmington.
Speaker 2:He's another aussie sam wilmington is another aussie, and I guess another aussie that'd be remiss not to actually mention, or the whole family basically, is the Hemsworths. Oh, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:All of the above. We'll take them all Luke, chris and Liam Liam.
Speaker 1:And their dad, are they any?
Speaker 2:others, their dad, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm sure his dad is Mr Hemsworth, I'm sure, and hot.
Speaker 2:But yeah, but um luke evans, chris evans, yeah, brothers brother duo one's gay, one's gay, one's not.
Speaker 1:But we've seen the pic of the one that's not, haven't we? Yes, that was my phone, sorry because I I put it on earlier, so I'm gonna put it back on look, I was good earlier, matt, you know I was. We went out for breakfast and we come back, sorry yeah, we did. We went out for breakfast, so I'm gonna just put this on the side and sorry yes, that's all right.
Speaker 2:That's okay, I'll whack him um.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can whack me if you like yeah, whack him off I was just britney telling me whether she's going out today, but she's not so um channing tatum.
Speaker 2:Now you said you're not a massive fan.
Speaker 1:Yeah look I mean I'll hit or miss from him. You know for me, yes, you know there is something about him, but not enough for me to say he's on my all-time list.
Speaker 2:In the Magic Mike movies, hell yeah, In the other dancing series that he did, because I like somebody with rhythm, I like a dancer as well. But then the other one, Joe Manganiello I can never say his name properly the guy that actually was in Magic Mike as well. He's Sofia Vergara's husband in real life. So the thing is he is so fucking hot. He played El Cid in True Blood as well, so, like True Blood, the vampire series, it was amazing.
Speaker 1:I was actually looking him up had.
Speaker 2:Alexander Skarsgård in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen him, he's very handsome. Oh yeah, true Blood, you'd actually like True Blood. I've seen him he's he's very handsome. Oh yeah, true blood. You'd actually like true blood. I've seen true blood, but I can't remember. You know it was a long time ago, so for me, yeah, some names will just sort of like drift in and out of my memory and you know?
Speaker 2:oh, I get that. I wish I was drifting somewhere else. Yeah, I wish some of the people would drift out of everything.
Speaker 1:What about people like you know, uk sort of actors like daniel craig, russell tovey?
Speaker 2:well, daniel craig obviously, because he's a redhead. He's got a new movie coming out as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were saying before, called Queer and he's and he's full on in that. Apparently he's got a lot of graphic scenes where he's actually sucking off a guy and everything so he's got that full on there.
Speaker 2:That's obviously going to be for the Spank Bank yeah, absolutely. Toby, oh my.
Speaker 1:God. He's such a nice person as well.
Speaker 2:He's such a beautiful person Because we talk about them like we actually have conversations, I know, but in our mind we do, we do in our mind. We have more than conversations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we're fantasizing, then we're sort of like having that conversation in our head Murray Bartlett from White Lotus. He's great, honestly.
Speaker 2:That moustache. I'd like to go for a ride on that.
Speaker 1:I think I like guys with beards and facial hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, obviously body hair full stop, but it doesn't always have to be that way.
Speaker 1:Yep, definitely. It's like Michael, sorry, matthew Fox from Lost and all those series.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yep very good looking guy yeah and Middleton, I guess who's current and he's sort of the king of SAS.
Speaker 1:He's more of a reality, sort of like celebrity SAS and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:But he's bloody awesome. Yep very good.
Speaker 1:See, for me like people like going back, like Paul Newman, for me, back in the day, one of my early ones. You know, he was such a handsome man blue eyes you know what I mean, yeah, but again, I mean, you know, stunningly good looking blonde hair, you, and you know that was one of my earliest crushes, I suppose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, look, Ken, I think Christopher Reeve back in the day I haven't mentioned. Henry Cavill, yet I'm saving him. Oh okay, yeah, he's got what looks like a thing You've now taken him out of the bag. Henry Cavill, he doesn't even get to be in the reserves to get on the bench. He's on the bench. He's straight number one, right, he's number one. He can push you and zach aside, right, I'll let you do that.
Speaker 2:Hey, like he's just, he's an all-around package and he and again a super nice personality type person, you know, I mean yeah um in the witcher, like I think I watched the witcher just with henry um, but like he's just so fucking hot, there's nothing about.
Speaker 1:He's a good actor as well.
Speaker 2:He's a very good's nothing about him, that's not hot. He's a good actor as well. He's a very good actor. Nothing about him, that's not hot. So yeah, henry Cavill, can you do whatever you want? To me, yes is the answer. Every day of the week, any day of the week.
Speaker 1:The only other one I've got on my list here, matt is Chris Pratt, and again, you know he's a hot guy. Yeah, could he be in my top ten? Probably not, given the list we've got. Yeah, tom Daley.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Tom Daley Diver.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Likes to knit, but again we're talking movie celebrities here rather than you know, oh, everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, we'll come back to sports people another day. Yeah, you're right, we, yeah, we can do that, definitely, definitely, because there are a lot, because all the ones we've got here in front of our list are predominantly Hollywood or singers or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah okay, yeah, or Aussies actors and stuff like that as well, so I don't think I'm just looking through my list there. Orville Peck, who's a singer, country music singer, a gay country music singer, who again, he's got nude photos out there and he's got a really nice cock Yep, a really nice cock. I sent you some photos of those Is that because of his voice. No, his voice is awesome. I love his music as well. Okay.
Speaker 1:So if you had a choice between sitting and listening to him, or sitting and sucking him, what?
Speaker 2:would you be doing? Why can't I suck his dick while I'm listening to him? You could do that, he could sing to you, actually, while you're sucking him, he could sing to me while I'm sucking his cock, yeah, or while I'm fucking him, or something like that yeah, well, he'd be moaning if you were fucking him? Yeah, probably. Maybe, Maybe we can sing along harmonize.
Speaker 1:You can make it a living segment, couldn't?
Speaker 2:you yeah.
Speaker 1:Jason Momoa yeah, good actor, he's sexy in some respects on my list Yep, all right. Robbie Williams Again fantastic In the early years yeah, I would like bash off to him, yeah.
Speaker 2:Definitely.
Speaker 1:I think you know he was sexy, then Definitely definitely he's still okay now he is, but he has sort of let himself down a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, he's aged and because he lives such a hard, fast life, he's not looking as amazing.
Speaker 1:Also, I mean, if he came in the room and stuff like that, I would come with him.
Speaker 2:You would all over him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely because, yeah, he has got that appeal, but he probably won't make my top ten, unfortunately for this one and one that's only gotten better with age.
Speaker 2:For me is Justin Timberlake. Oh, absolutely, and just because also the rumours about him having a massive cock. Okay, I just think that I want to know, I want to know he's up there with my….
Speaker 1:Well, you could ask Brittany, but she wouldn't be able to tell you, would she?
Speaker 2:No, no, not, our Brittany wouldn't be able to tell us, but yeah. Or Brittany would be able to tell, but yes. So I think all right, let's narrow this list down. Obviously number one, right, right, we're going to have to put this down. Number one sits as Henry Cavill.
Speaker 1:Henry Cavill, number one. Yeah, I'll agree with that, henry. You take the top spot, henry, yep, all right, and then for me it has to be one of the Ryans.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Ryans. Okay, so I think Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, definitely I think Ryan Reynolds is number two.
Speaker 1:I have a Ryan Gosling, but I think we should have a joint, two Joint two. Well, two, two, two, three and four.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll have a joint threesome.
Speaker 1:Number two would be a threesome.
Speaker 2:okay, We'll have Zach um ryan and we'll have you hugh yeah, that is number two so I know that's three people, but we'll have a three-way for those.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, so does that bring us down? Are we still doing number three or we're going to go to number five? Well because that's three people. Now we'll keep it as two because we want fucking top 10.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we need more. That's our fantasy.
Speaker 1:Yes, correct, okay, so the other number three then for me would probably be probably the Hemsworths. Hemsworths, maybe, do you reckon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd be going more like your Russell Tovey or somebody like that?
Speaker 1:No, I think he's a little bit further down.
Speaker 2:Okay, hemsworths, okay, yeah, let's put them there. We'll put them both together.
Speaker 1:Or three together. Three them, three together the Hemsworth brother Jay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plus Daddy Hemsworth's.
Speaker 1:Number three on our list, number four. Then we can go, maybe like people like Russell Tovey Russell Tovey, yeah, yeah, russell yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think, like Luke Evans, Chris Evans, why not have some brothers?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can do them again. Some more brothers, yeah, yeah, yeah, luke and Chris, the Evans brothers. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:Definitely.
Speaker 1:So number six.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then what about?
Speaker 1:let's think about number six.
Speaker 2:Justin Timberlake. He's got to make it to the list. Yeah, because I'm not not having him on that list.
Speaker 1:Okay, and what about then? We can go straight into people like Wentworth Miller.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Wentworth Miller.
Speaker 1:I think he deserves to be up there.
Speaker 2:Definitely be on the list definitely.
Speaker 1:Do you want him as number seven? Yeah, why not? Why not Went, not, why not? Why not Go on? Who else would you want?
Speaker 2:I think we need to have some Aussie contingents in there, we have got the yeah, but I'm talking like a Daniel McPherson and Luke Jacobs. Well, we can do that. You can hire up, can I? Hire two of those together.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Luke and Jacob. Luke and Luke Jacobs and Daniel McPherson definitely, because again, there's that rumour that Luke Jacobs has a piercing in his cock.
Speaker 1:I'm not into piercing.
Speaker 2:I know, neither am I, but I want to know. I want to know, and Daniel McPherson used to have nipple piercings back when he was younger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, back when he was younger and doing Home and Away and all that kind of stuff. I didn't know that. There you go. So we're up to number nine now. We haven't got a lot left, all right.
Speaker 2:This is getting tricky, then.
Speaker 1:I think Daniel Craig needs to be on the list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, based on his looks and his body, and stuff like that yeah. And he's a gay advocate as well. Yeah, is he. Yeah, I guess he's appearing in a queer movie but, I, mean, but yeah, Yep.
Speaker 1:Daniel Craig and our top ten. Rounds out, round out, top ten. Who are we going to go with? You've got Ricky Martin. You've got a singer. Do you want a singer? Justin Crum.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Ricky, ricky.
Speaker 1:Just because he's so kind and so amazing as he doesn't come in any higher than that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to shuffle this list. Yeah, like on replay nonstop throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there you go. So we've got Henry number one, then we've got Jack. No, sorry, jack, zach, zach, hugh.
Speaker 2:And Ryan Ryan right Zach Hugh, ryan Ryan right, zach Hugh and Ryan right as equal for second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we've got the Hemsworth brothers Hemsworth brothers, right. Then we've got Russell Tovey. Yep, then we've got Luke and Chris Evans Yep, and then we've got Justin Timberlake Yep. Then we've got Wentworth Miller Done, then Luke and Daniel Yep, yep, and Then Luke and Daniel Yep, yep, and then we've got Daniel Craig Yep. And then we finish it off with Ricky Martin, and that's our top ten. And she bangs.
Speaker 2:And he bangs. Well, yeah, you can bang them all. So, yeah, that's our top ten.
Speaker 1:Hollywood celebrity crushes. And yeah, shoot us a message with your hot celebrity crushes and if you think we've missed anyone off the or if you have a top 10 subject you'd like us to sort of like narrow down our choices, then we're more than happy to do that.
Speaker 2:It's a bit of fun yeah, we had some fun with it, yeah and hopefully you've enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:And if you want to send us any more information, how do they contact us, matt?
Speaker 2:well, they can email us at fullygrownhimospodcast at gmailcom or contact any of our socials at fullygrownhomospodcast. That's a wrap from us. We've been your fullygrownhomos and we look forward to opening your mind, your ears and your curiosities. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and share our podcast with your curious friends. You can contact us on fullygrownhomospodcast at gmailcom or any of our socials. Fully Grown Homos Podcast.
