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Sexpo Shenanigans and Erotic Innovations

Dave and Matt Season 1 Episode 20

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Curious about the latest innovations in sex toys, or what it’s like to attend a sex-positive event like Sexpo in Sydney? This episode of Fully Grown Homos is packed with humorous anecdotes, insightful observations, and candid discussions about our recent adventure exploring the world of erotic innovations. We highlight standout sex toys, from gynecologist-designed vibrators to clitoral suction cups, and share our unexpected discoveries, like the cock sleeve from a lucky dip. Plus, you’ll get a laugh out of Dave’s culinary mishap with a vulva-shaped cookie!

Ever wondered about the dynamics of body positivity at events like Sexpo? Join us as we celebrate the courage and confidence of attendees flaunting their bodies, despite societal norms. We recount humorous and memorable moments, including a big girl in a scanty outfit being hilariously denied entry for not wearing shoes. We also take a closer look at the diverse demographics of the event, the surprising lack of LGBTQ+ representation, and the curious presence of a paintball stand amidst the sex-focused exhibits.

What’s the real value of a Sexpo ticket? We debate the merits of premium passes versus general admission, and share our mixed feelings about the lap dance stands and private sessions. From our engaging interactions with content creators to the intense kink demonstrations, we cover it all. To wrap things up, we reminisce about a chaotic and entertaining amateur strip show that left us in stitches and reflect on the camaraderie and unforgettable moments that make events like this so special. Don't forget to connect with us and share your suggestions for our next escapade!

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our adventures as fully grown homos navigating today's world full of inquisitive friends, questions about gay life and the unexplored activities of a life lived as fully grown homos.

Speaker 2:

We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics we don't even know yet, as we want your input into what you want to hear. Nothing is off limits, so email us on the Fully Grown Homos podcast at gmailcom or message any of our socials Fully Grown Homos, with Dave and Matt.

Speaker 1:

On today's episode, we're going to talk about a wrap up of an event we went to recently, which is Sexpo. That's correct, we visited Sexpo. And for those of went to recently, which is Sexpo, that's correct, we visited Sexpo. And for those of you that have never been to a Sexpo, dave, tell our listeners what it is.

Speaker 2:

Well, basically, Matt Sexpo is an event that's held annually in different parts of Australia and around the world everywhere I suppose. But we went to the one in Sydney and it's held annually, like I said, and it covers everything that you could ever imagine to do with sex.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a very sex positive event. It's basically a big market how I would sort of describe it for sex toys and anything to do with anything in the bedroom. Um, so we're going to discuss our highlights, our lowlights, what we actually enjoyed, what the demographic of the people were there, because it's going to surprise you, um, definitely, and we're going to go through our pros and cons and things like that. Now, these are our opinions and only our opinions. Um, they're not always necessarily perfectly right, but they're ours. So, um, yeah, so let's just jump straight in there. Dave, were you surprised at any, or surprised and delighted at any, of the sex toys that are available this year?

Speaker 2:

well, to be honest with you, matt, there was a few new things, but again, for females, there wasn't a lot of toys there for just like men, which is standard anyway, you know, yeah, um, but there was a.

Speaker 2:

There was a few new um toys that have come from gynecologist, gynecologists yes gynecologist, um, people that work within the industry, so there was a group of them. I know canadians, I think they were yeah, that come across and they were showing off their new technologies, new uh material types that were used for these vibrators for women. Um, and, yeah, from what we saw, it was very, very good. Yeah, it was awesome, like, because our friends that came with us we had four female friends that uh joined us, yep, and two of those bought items from that store.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, and they were very, very surprised and very, very impressed with what they saw they were, and and look, one of the bonuses from that store is they're actually giving away little cookies that were shaped, had vulva imprinted on the thing, and dave got a cookie from there and he left in the bag and I ate it. The cookie was really, really yummy, so you ate a vulva.

Speaker 2:

I ate a vulva. Wow, you told me that you weren't even going anywhere near them. I've now gone down does that classify?

Speaker 1:

does that make me a lesbian? Um, I hope it was fully shaved. It was all pink and there was not a hair on it was it creamy though it was.

Speaker 1:

It was fucking delicious. I can't even remember that. I'll have to talk to our friends and find out what the place was and email them and find out where they got their cookies made. Um, because their cookies were tasty, um, but those sex toys looked really, really um like we had a play with them and they had little suction cups on them yeah, which that was a thing that I'd never seen before on a vibrator yeah to um, attach onto the clitoris to give that that stimulation and things like that, um so, but a lot of toys there were targeted at the female um audience, definitely.

Speaker 1:

um, I would dare say look and yep, I guess if you're sex toys, a sex toy doesn't sit there and go. I'm not going up your ass, that's an out-hole. So sex toys are sex toys, are sex toys and there were definitely options there for gay men, but there was no stalls that were specifically targeted at gay men.

Speaker 2:

There wasn't things like penis pumps. There wasn't things like cock sleeves. There wasn't things Saying that there was cock sleeves. Well, there was cock sleeves.

Speaker 1:

So I did a lucky dip for us and in that lucky dip, one of our friends she got some rope. That was Brittany. We'll go into rope a bit later. Brittany got that. Brittany got the rope, yeah, and I got a cock sleeve and Dave got a cock sleeve. Well, I've since tried mine on and I've never used a cock sleeve before. Because you don't need to. If you've listened on previous podcasts. I'm not tiny, um, and I don't know that. That's the actual point behind a cock sleeve is just to give you extra girth, or not? Um, but this was actually quite good, um I put it on.

Speaker 2:

You said it had like um ribs inside.

Speaker 1:

It's got ribs inside, like it's got a place that wraps around your balls, like it's. It's very stretchy, um it's sort of got this past this part that wraps around your balls and sort of. So they come through and then you put it over your cock and I think, as you get harder, um, it will sort of fit on better and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Um, because I was only sort of semi-hard when I had to describe what a cock sleeve is about oh, so it's basically a plastic or a rubber sleeve latex, I'm guessing.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a material that was latex, but it was very very soft very soft, quite, quite sensuous, and I think if you had it in your hand or in your ass without knowing that it was actually a cock sleeve, you could mistake it for a cock.

Speaker 2:

But the whole purpose of a cock sleeve is basically to give a bit of enhancement to a person's cock really isn't it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, to make it, make it a little bit fatter, a little bit longer, a bit, or it acts as a sort of like barrier, I suppose like a condom would, but you know yeah, yeah, potentially we could do, but the downside to what I found for that type of material is, once you start using the lube on it, it starts going very sticky very quickly and it becomes quite groggy. Well, I'll have to try that out. Yeah, I'll get back to you on that one. I mean, that's just my take on what I've experienced from that type of latex, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, you gotta make sure you clean it properly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah you should always make sure you clean all your sex toys and clean them. How do you, how do you best clean them, dave, hang on, let me answer this in the washing machine no, it's not in the washing machine dishwasher.

Speaker 1:

It's not in the dishwasher. Um, despite some american movies. Um, it's actually with hand soap, because hand soap is delicate enough to actually be on your skin. Don't use. Well, you can use normal soap as well, but hand soap is actually really good because it has you reminded me of an advert I used to have in the UK.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, the one with Fairy Liquid and she's like putting rubber gloves on and she's washing her hands. She's going this is so nice on my hands.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and she'd wash her hands going. This is so nice on my hands. Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but yeah, use um hand soap when you're um on your sex toys and, and at least on your cock, as well, and on your cock, use hand soap everywhere, why not? Um, and if you can't get it yourself, get someone else to do it for you. Yeah, correct, correct, give it to your mother yeah mom, can you wash my sex toys?

Speaker 1:

no, don't get your mom to wash your sex toys. Um, but yeah, but, um, um, yeah. So lots of toys there. There was um a really cool toy.

Speaker 2:

There was a mechanical one that basically um had various, various speeds um, so basically it's like a mechanical arm that goes like a piston and you attach your penis, not penis, if you've got an attachable penis. You can attach your penis you attach your dildo whatever choose, size you choose or whatever shape, and basically, and it just basically fucks you and you can, if you really like being pounded hard like real hard yeah, you can turn it up to a freaking 11 and it will thrash you um if you just like nice slow gentle.

Speaker 2:

Well, they were mounted on the table, weren't they? And we tried the speeds and the whole table was fucking shaking.

Speaker 1:

Dave turned it up to 11 and the whole table nearly fell over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how powerful it was. But we also had a double-ended one remember? Yeah, there was a double-ended one.

Speaker 1:

There was some of the people that were there. One of the guys dared me. He said I dared me. He said I tell you to put it in your mouth right while it was going. And I turned around and said, pointed to dave and said he's the one that can deep throat better than me. And the guy just looked at me and he ran because, again, I'm fairly straight, presenting um, um. So it was quite amusing because he expected me to go. Oh, fuck off, bro, I'm not doing that, you do it. But it was just like no, he's a better cocksucker than me. So I'm the guy bolted, he couldn't get out of there quick enough um, but otherwise there wasn't anything majorly different.

Speaker 1:

I've seen before. No, look, there wasn't anything that I haven't seen before at all. It was, and I think, look from a store's perspective, there was multiple of the same thing getting sold at different things, like there was dildos galore. There was a glove that I actually did purchase and it's a vibrating glove and it has different sensations, different textures. And I've got it. I haven't tried it yet.

Speaker 2:

I'll try it tonight.

Speaker 1:

We'll try it a bit later. We'll give you a report later on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll give you a report later on. Yeah, we'll give you a report on our sexpo toys. Does it mean I'm gonna get like, like what's it called?

Speaker 1:

it's like a massage, yeah, but does it mean my hand is gonna go numb? No, I hope not, um, because the guy that showed it to us at the party because me and one of the girls actually sort of looked at it we went oh, that sounds fun, um, but you can. It has different settings, so different fingers will actually vibrate in different patterns. So one will pulse, one will buzz. Oh, wow, okay, do all this kind of stuff. So it is actually I missed that and yeah, it was, and they were only fairly really well priced. I think it was like what's it made of?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Is it material like, yeah, it's material.

Speaker 1:

It's like a soft, it was very sensual.

Speaker 2:

The material it's almost like a velvet okay, right, okay, but soft, it was very sensual. The material it was almost like a velvet sort of thing. Okay, right, okay.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, so it was well. I don't know, Can you wash it? I haven't looked at the instructions.

Speaker 2:

Because if it's got like you know, If it gets juice all over it. You're saying yeah, but what I'm saying is if it's got like mechanisms inside it, then you can't obviously wash them, so it has to be removable. I don't know Like a sleeve that comes off. We'll investigate.

Speaker 1:

We'll investigate and get back. Okay, there you go yeah so that was one of the other things that I purchased and, yeah, so I think from a sex toy's perspective, nothing too new at all. Yeah, did I enjoy the event?

Speaker 1:

Yes and no, yeah, I'd mix bags. On this one. I really enjoyed the company that we went with, absolutely. I enjoyed the vibe of the event. Yep, because the event was crazy. There was so many people, so many fucking hot people there, hot men, hot women, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it was just beautiful people there. But then on the officer's end there was some pigs and some weirdos. There was some very strange-looking people there. I'm not judging, no, I am judging a little bit because that's who I am yeah, but I look at the end of the day.

Speaker 2:

there was a lot of body positiveness going on, but these people that had their bodies out if it was me, I wouldn't Look and again, kudos to you if you are brave enough.

Speaker 1:

Look and again kudos to you if you are brave enough. And look for myself. When I had my heaviest of like nearly 125, close to 130 kilos, I thought I was a sexy beast. Still right Now, these people that we're talking about far exceeded that weight in any way, shape or form. And even though I thought I was a sexy beast, I would dress weight appropriate for what I thought was weight appropriate. Now we're at Sexpo, so this is an event where you can be free. You can wear your sexiness and wear your kink and wear your whatever it is the fuck you want to wear out and show everyone how proud of it you are. So again, I give props to them for it. Yeah, could I do it? Hell to the no. Look. There was one young lady there oh, you can tell by the highlight and she was big. She was big but she was wearing very, very little. She was wearing a thin sort of G-string type, strappy type thing that went up a clacker Across the breast Across the breast.

Speaker 1:

Across the breast. Only covered the nipples, barely covered the nipples, nothing else. And these breasts were. If you're at your local supermarket and you see a giant watermelon and I don't mean a little one, I mean the big-ass one they were her titties. Now she had curves going for days right and again she was not what I would define as sexy, but I found the way that she was embracing herself sexy. So I get the body positivity side.

Speaker 2:

But the best part is when she was coming in is this the same one we're talking about? Oh, no, we're talking about a different one. Oh, okay, well, I'll go back onto that one afterwards. Are you, karen, talking about this one? Then, I was talking about a different one.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, well, I'll go back onto that one afterwards. Are you, karen, talking about this one? Then? I was talking about the one that was in the amateur strip comp, oh her Right. And again she was throwing those titties around. Right, she was throwing them around. I thought to myself, if you throw that on somebody's head, they're going to crack somebody's fucking head open, but big and Not what you would deem as sexy. But I can tell you what people were cheering, people clapping, and she was having a good time she had a ball?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was. There was a lot of meat and no butchers in sight, but there probably was a few, but remind me about talking later on.

Speaker 2:

Oh, one of the highlights. That was funny.

Speaker 2:

Oh no tell us now. Tell us now. Okay, so basically we'd been into the sex bow and basically we decided to have a break halfway through because it was just waiting for a lot of the events to happen later on. So we decided to go out and get a coffee and something to eat and then, on our return back into the Sexpo, we were coming back through because we had our stamp, we didn't have to sort of show any idea, I think and there was a girl that was coming in.

Speaker 2:

Again, she was dressed so scantily clad and she was a big girl again, another big girl with very, very little on, again, very similar to what Matt was saying about the attire. She had these thin straps going across her breasts and down to her buttocks and she had a very small G-string type thing covering the front part of her vagina. But, again, very, very, very scared. What made me laugh was basically, as she was coming in, the security guy said to her look, he said I can't let you in and she goes. Why he goes? Because you've got no shoes on. And at that point I just fucking walked in and I just couldn't stop laughing.

Speaker 1:

Dave giggled for a good 15, 20 minutes on the way home, just because he's gone. She wasn't wearing anything else, but the shoes were the issue.

Speaker 2:

And I was just like holy fuck.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so yeah. So the types of people that were there at the event were I would say predominantly female. A lot of female, a lot of couples as well, wasn't there. There was a lot of couples, quite a few couples. There was a few packs of boys that were walking around thinking that this was time to get pussy. That was never going to happen for them.

Speaker 2:

In terms of what we would classify as gay blokes. There was a few there, but not obvious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there wasn't. And again, I think retrospectively, I went 20 years ago the last time. It'll probably be the same timing that I go again this time. Yeah, um, it was not targeted as at a gay event no, no, like there was literally zero representation it was a sex bow, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

so it covers every aspect of everything, yeah but but there wasn't any actual representation from a queer community, from an informational point of view, from anything at all like I would have thought that someone like acon yeah, potentially would have been there to actually promote the sex message and I, and I would have thought there would have been a few mental um, um, you know, support things like beyond blue and other things like that that might have been there to help, because obviously people will have therapists.

Speaker 1:

There was some sex therapists there and stuff like that. They did sex counseling.

Speaker 2:

But what surprised me was a paintball stand.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was a paintball stand like what the fuck? How is that? At sexpo and I mean I know that you see at all those shows you've got certain people like the knife guy and I was actually surprised I didn't see that knife guy there doing his demo where they shred the carrots and do all that kind of stuff, Don't?

Speaker 2:

mention carrots. He's in everything. Don't mention carrots. You know it turns me on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we did Go to our previous episode and check out what kind of important episode it was.

Speaker 2:

I think it was things you put inside you, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, yeah, things you put inside you or something like that. Yeah, that's um previous episode about dave's carrots, um, but I was surprised he wasn't actually there, because he's at every single event and every single they didn't have the dick painting either day no, they didn't have him um, but look, they had lots of really good. They had informational sessions. They were actually having a seminar. We walked in on um to one of the part through the way through that, where a girl was explaining um.

Speaker 1:

A girl and guy couple, male a female couple and, oh my god, a male sexual couple were explaining um the best ways to handle a cock, basically, and and he was telling her, yep, that feels good. So he was basically naked from the waist down. Yeah, he was naked from the waist down and she was telling her, yep, that feels good. So he was basically naked from the waist down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was naked from the waist down. She was basically pulling his dick and stroking it this way and pulling it that way, and then they were taking questions afterwards what's the best thing to do with oral sex and how do you do this and how do you do that? They were actually taking lots of questions, um. So it was really good from that perspective because he was explaining what he likes. But he was also saying that just because I like it when somebody's making that gagging sound doesn't mean that everyone wants that sound. He was just saying just because I like the just under the head of my cock I think it's called the perineum leaked doesn't mean that every man on the planet likes it.

Speaker 2:

You're saying ask the guy that's receiving head what you like Gay guys know how to please a guy in a better way because they're so used to the genitalia and the way they use it. Same with females as well. Females will always be the best ones at being able to pleasure themselves more than men.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but there also is a lot of men out there that still don't know how to give head which surprises me, and that's in the gay community as well. Yeah, I know which is really sad because they should know by now. So, toys, I think is fine, we've done that. Target demographics. I think, like I said, they're targeted.

Speaker 2:

They cast um target demographics. I think they, like I said, they're targeted. They cast a wide net um. I would say the average age would have been in the late 20s, early 30s, late 20s, early 30s.

Speaker 1:

Again, um, I didn't, although I didn't feel like a creepy old man there no, no, no, I'm only 52 um well I'm only 52.

Speaker 2:

53 in a couple of days time. I'm only 52. I'll let you know that days' time I think I'm only 52. I'll let everyone know that it's time to.

Speaker 1:

So I am. I didn't feel like a creepy old man walking around, because there was people older than us, there was people as young as sort of the 1920s and stuff like that. It was a very mixed crowd. Like I said, there was big people, small people, hot people, absolute rodents. Um, there was some weird ass people walking around, like they just looked like they had a trench coat on and they were going to flash you.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think there's a few people that are pretty high on something as well because there's that guy, remember he was walking around with like braces on and just like a jock strap, yeah, but he was just like really spaced out. He was. He was spaced out. So again, he was walking around with like braces on and just like a jockstrap, yeah, but he was just like really spaced out he was spaced out.

Speaker 1:

So again he was. He was enjoying himself.

Speaker 2:

He was having fun he was enjoying the day.

Speaker 2:

But the only thing that I was disappointed with as well, matt, is the lack of nudity in terms of like what they were promoting, because part of the show there was a strip show, which we'll talk about a little bit later on, but the requirements were women could get their nipples and their breasts out, but they couldn't show their vaginas and guys couldn't show their dicks. And I thought, going to a sexpo, they were having everything there talking about sex and you know, and some of the events had people showing, showing their cocks and stuff it was a sex positive event yeah, but I was expecting there to be more, even like even penetrative sex happening on stage.

Speaker 2:

I really did think that was going to happen, because when you look at some of the expo, sexpo sorry, around the world, especially in europe, they have these things where you know they're having live sex acts on the stages. You know I mean, yeah, um, so I was expecting a bit more of that and that never happened. Even the male strip show we went to, it was nothing. He didn't take anything off apart from down to his undies, and that was it, really wasn't it?

Speaker 1:

No, they both got fully nude.

Speaker 2:

No, not on the first one, that was on the main stage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, even in that he didn't. He got fully nude, but he just basically covered himself up with the towel, like he. I thought he kept his g-string on no, no, no, no he did have. He did. He got fully nude, but he basically just used her hand to cover and then basically put the towel over so nobody else could see. But that wasn't worth it. No one didn't want to. No one wanted to see it.

Speaker 2:

When anyway it was like bleh, he wasn't great at all. But look, I mean, you know the actual event itself. I mean, like I said, I went probably about nine years ago last time and it was held in a different venue and to me, yes, it was better this time in terms of the location, in terms of the way it was set up, but again, I was still very disappointed with the actual overall event.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I didn't get out of it what I was expecting to get out of it yeah, so I went in based on what I saw last time and I don't think it's changed much. I mean, the venue definitely was surpassed. The other venue, um like so, and it was at the iccc this time, but one of those halls, that, and from a facilities from a bars, from bathrooms, all of that kind of stuff, it was fantastic. It was clean, it was neat, it was tidy, it was safe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, all that kind of stuff, it was fantastic but again in terms of like the price and tickets, matt when we were told um, if you had a higher level of ticket you could go to certain events, and I didn't see there was any disparity between any of any of the tickets well, I think, because we had the vip stamp, because we did buy the vip one, so we actually pretty much got full area access.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was only one section that we didn't but nobody was checking. Nobody was checking anybody no, they were basically that, basically just letting people in. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So basically you could have paid the basic price and got in to see everything the same as everybody else yeah but I I mean that's the way I look on it yeah, pretty much, so Pretty much.

Speaker 1:

But look, I'm sort of, yeah, I didn't think it was bad value because it was a good six hours worth of entertainment and people had to get paid, so I thought it was actually pretty good value.

Speaker 2:

Look, I'm not knocking it from that perspective, but I just didn't understand what extra you got for the extra price, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Well, I guess, technically we got the strip show access and we got the educational seminar access technically, but, like I said, they weren't checking. But they weren't checking any of it. So, yeah, you're right, you could have gone the cheaper option, yeah and um and and got in there, but again, on the saturday night when we went, it was so busy, um, like I had people when I went up to, because eventually we ended up getting media passes, um, which we're very grateful which we're really grateful for.

Speaker 1:

It's very kind for sex by the Bird and Gears 7, but when I went up there there was people begging to buy tickets and they were just full so they were actually really good they were policing their capacity levels in that respect, it was very, very good.

Speaker 2:

I think it was run flawlessly it was just a lack of content. I reckon for me that they could probably do better. They wouldn't see more cock, basically. Well, not just that, I just. I just felt it was the same same same every every stand or store we went to was. They were almost the same, yeah, so there was no sort of like oh, up this road is going to be all the king stuff, all that. That row is going to be all the sex toys, all that row is going to be sort of like, all these sort of like, um, different outfits you can buy and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I think, yeah, you, I think there could have been a lot more that was put into the, the planning of the, but again, I guess this event, like I said, I went 20 years ago um, and how many people want to repeatedly turn up to these events, depending on how much they're making. I mean, there was accountants that specialize in the um content creator, um space. There was content creators there. We met some fantastic content creators um sort of one of them we sat there and had a chat with for ages, gay woods. Um, awesome, um representation representation, gay content creator. Um such a sexy, sexy man as well. Um, we had a bloody long chat. We took up way too much of his time. He was very generous with his, he was very, very good and we we chatted with quite a lot of people.

Speaker 1:

Um, now we were planning on actually doing some interviews and stuff like that from there, but it was just too freaking loud and you wouldn't have been able to hear anything. No, so it was just completely pointless.

Speaker 2:

So the other thing that you saw, matt as well, which you saw like, quite enjoyed to some degree, was the kink part, which is where our friend, One of our friends wanted to go and again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so the rope tying right, which is the specific one we're talking about here, um, now I'm not into the bondage and the tying and all that kind of stuff, but I was interested in it. But one of our friends was very interested in it, yep and um, she definitely wanted to make sure that she checked that out. So we did. We went and had a look at that and it was quite hot initially. But then the guy that was doing the tying he was, he was very intense, for I don't want to say the word creepy, because that's well my take would be.

Speaker 1:

He was very dominant, too dominant yeah, he was intense and he had this look in his eyes like and and yes, you have to enjoy it if you're doing it, but he was enjoying it a little too much. Yeah, in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's why he came across a lot of us. Everybody was saying the same thing, weren't they? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

um, it got a bit too much for some of it, like he was tying wrists, he was tying hands, he was tying I didn't think she was enjoying it as much as what he thought she was yeah, and when he started tying around the neck it did get a little bit much for a few of us and I thought like, while we're at sexpo and everything else seems so consensual. I know that, yeah, 100, but everything else seemed to be it's all consensual.

Speaker 2:

I know that. Yeah, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:

But everything else seemed to be turned down to a bit of vanilla. If I can be honest, especially if we're talking the nudity levels and stuff like that, that was all fairly vanilla. But then when we got to this and they were doing the whole, like I said, it was ropes around the neck, which sort of was a bit confrontational and again, not for me, not something that I want to ever be a part of, especially putting ropes around my neck. No, thank you. The other thing.

Speaker 2:

The other thing I didn't saw like fine was very attractive or very I don't know what's the word I can use um, it wasn't something I would enjoy was that one where we got like the is it? I don't know they were, if they were cool girls at the front when we came in there was a stand and you could pay for these women to lap dance and stuff like that and everybody else could stand and run and watch, but you're paying for them to do that, and then they had like four curtains that people, if they wanted a little bit more, they would pay them. And then they go behind this like private I wanted a private show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and again it was a private show, so technically it was only dancing. But, like I said, they did have curtains that you pull across and the curtains were fairly flimsy. So I'm pretty sure if we had hung there long enough we would have seen somebody getting something done, something, something, something, even though it wasn't prostitution.

Speaker 2:

No, it wasn't prostitution. No, it wasn't prostitution, but again, I mean, it was just like a bit weird, but it was um it was a bit yeah. So, given the fact that everywhere else was like you know, you can't show your genitals, you can't do this, and it was too politically clean from my perspective, you know. And then I thought, well, you're a fucking sexpo, for fuck's sake, you know. I mean surely to god, I've seen more nudity on a male, you know, on a.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, so there's some of our pros and cons. I think my show highlight would have been one of two things. So there was a couple of strippers that performed the professional strippers right. One of them, kelvin Schoen. Kelvin Schoen, kelvin Schoen.

Speaker 1:

S-H-O-N-E he is fucking fine. Yeah, he was like when we were watching the male strip show in the male strip show area. He was emceeing and he was cheeky and he was naughty and we had a bit of banter yep back then and he sort of come up because I I was enjoying myself yeah, absolutely because I do enjoy myself, right and he came up and he sort of basically gave me a nice little touch on the arm and said it's good to see a guy enjoying himself. I said, oh, I always enjoy myself.

Speaker 1:

And throughout parts of that strip show, for example, the stripper that was performing an act on, the girl on stage said something about get on your knees if you want it in your mouth. So I've just dropped on my knees on side of stage. Well, he's lusty shit. He's gone. Yeah, this is the dude over here that wants it. So he sort of included me in that show. But then he actually performed on the main stage later on that night and, holy Christ, and he look, the professional strippers for some reason were allowed to get their cocks out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm really glad he did yeah because he had a good body, he had a great personality, good body and everything else Good moves and a very nice dick as well. Very good looking guy yeah.

Speaker 1:

And found out or Dave found out through um his regular research, that he's actually bisexual, recently come out as bisexual as well. So, um, um, that means that we've all got a chance. Um, I've got no chance with somebody with a body like that. Trust me, I wish my god.

Speaker 2:

But look, I mean, like I said they were, they were very inclusive, even though there wasn't a lot of gay content or there wasn't a lot of people that were directly showing gay um stands or whatever. Yeah, but they included everybody else. At the one point, remember he had, he had a couple of girls on the stage and then at the end he had the guy. The guy was the one that actually got his clothes off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, correct, so that was really quite good you know, I mean, it was really good.

Speaker 2:

So and then the female strippers um again, they were pretty good as well beautiful girls gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous girls um very classy, very, very, you know, very beautiful the mc was telling them to slam their cunts on the ground.

Speaker 1:

He said, girls, what are we going to do? And they're going slam our pussies on the ground, slam our cunts to the ground. And it was just like, wow, okay, awesome. And they did. Yeah, they did. They were slamming them and I'm thinking, my god, that's gotta hurt, um, but yeah but the highlight of the night was was definitely the amateur strip show.

Speaker 1:

The amateur strip show it was so much fun and look we like. We said we've gone out for a little while and we decided we're going to come back in um for the amateur strip show. And I am so glad we did, because the characters that were actually in that strip show, they videoed the whole thing. We're not putting it up online because these people were amateurs and that's their content to share, but they were everyone. It was your uncle, your aunt, your cousin, your brother, your sister, your mother.

Speaker 1:

So basically, the format was 10 men would go on and they would have like two or three minutes or not even that, about a minute, about 30 seconds, yeah, about 30 to 40 seconds each to basically perform a sex dance on the stage. Yeah, strip off, you know, but they weren't allowed to take anything below the underwear.

Speaker 2:

That's all as far as they could go, and then, after they did that, they brought more back on, and the audience would then cheer the one that they thought was the best one, or they bring them down to the final three when they then they would have to perform again and then the winning one would go forward to the grand final.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did the same for the females. 10 females went on, did the same sort of thing again and then at the end they had the best female and the best male at the end to compete for 500.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, or they end up splitting it 350. 150 for first place.

Speaker 2:

In the second place but there was a few of the male characters that were very egotistical. There was one in. He had a great body, his body was amazing, but he thought he was gonna win.

Speaker 1:

He thought I've got this body. I I can go on here, I'll show my chest, I'll show a little bit of nipple, I'll undo my fly and show my underwear and I'll get this.

Speaker 2:

But it was boring, but not just that. It was the egotisticalness that he just assumed he was going to win and the audience didn't vote for him obviously.

Speaker 1:

And he was absolutely, he was really not happy. We ended up voting for some guy that was dressed up he had. Santa's pants on, which was the cutest thing ever, but he was so much fun he was really enjoying it and having a lot of fun and stuff like that but it was the girls that were the funniest, I think with the girls one they, they had lots of men volunteering, lots and lots of men.

Speaker 1:

They actually had to start turning people away. Yes, I did think about volunteering, but then I thought, no, I can't do it, sort of you're right.

Speaker 1:

So fred moment when I'm too sexy for my body well, no, it was kind of because they'd already said, all right, we've got enough guys now, and and I kind of went, well, I'm not going to go up and push myself on there. But then they said you could hear him saying to one guy okay, we'll let one guy in with the girls, right, but you have to put on a girl's outfit. And so this guy had this full skirt, full top on that he'd obviously borrowed from someone there well, britney actually thought it was a girl to start with.

Speaker 1:

And I was laughing, thinking, oh my god and walked on stage with a handbag, dropped the handbag right, started stripping off. Couldn't strip off because he clearly was a man that had never really worn female clothes before he was pissed as well, he was smashed and he fell over.

Speaker 2:

He fell over, he ended up rolling around the stage and his wig came off.

Speaker 1:

He rolled to the back of the stage got up, tripped over his own handbag, nearly took a tumble. It was fucking hysterical. It was brilliant. It was just pure brilliance. Um, look the, the girl that ended up winning the whole thing. If she wasn't a professional pole dancer, slash stripper, I'll be fucked. Yeah, because she was this tiny little thing, an amazing, neat little body. Everything was where it was supposed to be. She had this latex dress she was actually wearing, which was hot, I mean temperature hot.

Speaker 2:

She knew the moves, she knew the moves, she knew the moves. She's done it all before.

Speaker 1:

She had it all going on. She ended up winning the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

So you think that, technically, you know, she was on par with a lot of the professional people there, wasn't she?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was probably better than some of the professional people, because some of the professionals weren't that good. But yeah, it was definitely the highlight of our show and that was for pretty much all of us that seen it.

Speaker 2:

We walked out of the way, thinking like I mean, between um kelvin's shown and um and the image, but it was quite funny because matt drove us all in um, apart from we met one of our friends there and, uh, the conversation was like just normal chit chat on the way there but on the way back we were just fucking pissing ourselves, laughing because we were talking about the whole experience, what we saw, weren't we? Yeah, yeah and yeah. It was just like it was good value for that, I would say for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was lots of fun. If you haven't been in a long time, I would definitely say get along and enjoy. Take some friends. Don't just go by yourself. That's creepy, yeah, but take a big group of friends, enjoy it for what it is. Enter the competitions. Enter the competitions. Go and see everything. Don't spend your 60 70 dollars. Go and spend your 90 dollars right. Go into all the areas. Yes, they didn't police it when we were there, but they may be policing it when you're there.

Speaker 2:

So just remember, take shoes with you. Yeah, take your shoes because you won't get in otherwise.

Speaker 1:

Um, but go there, have some fun. Go there with an open mind, go there with an empty credit card because some of the sex toys weren't cheap no, but they were very, very good, some of them for the girl, yeah for sure.

Speaker 1:

Um, eat the cookies. They're fucking amazing. They had dick waffles and vag waffles. I didn't actually have one of those, unfortunately, uh, but they, they had dick waffles and vag waffles. I didn't actually have one of those, unfortunately, but they had lots of stuff there for lots of different people, so go along, have some fun.

Speaker 2:

Would you go back again, matt?

Speaker 1:

I will not for a few years. Not for a few years definitely. But yeah, but I definitely will definitely check it out again in a few years time.

Speaker 2:

Take your mum and dad with you, have fun well, my mum can't go with us? Well, not you. I'm not talking about our listeners.

Speaker 1:

Take your mom take your dad um take your brothers, sisters, aunties.

Speaker 2:

Take everybody with you. Take your grandmother should love it.

Speaker 1:

If your dad says I want a bigger size butt plug this year, then you can go. Okay, dad, maybe this is not a conversation where we need to have, but especially with your mother around. Yeah, well, no, actually you should have those conversations with your parents. Sexual positivity, but yeah, absolutely and um yeah, so remember to head along next time to sexpo.

Speaker 2:

Have fun and enjoy yourself and get your tickets in early as well, because it will set out very quickly I will sell out.

Speaker 1:

so that's been ourpo chat and we hope you've enjoyed it and if you have any other places you'd like us to visit, how do they send us that info, dave?

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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